Vista - AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

11-08-2008

Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently
with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if
you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was
clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it
cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
after that the hijacking thing was gone.
So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
Are these likely to conflict with each other?
Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
Any thoughts appreciated.
Thanks
--
Amanda B

11-08-2008

Amanda <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?

Obviously - since it took all 3 to fix your system - yes. It's always
good to use a few, rather than one or two.

You can add Malwarebytes to the list. Also Spybot Search and Destroy.

Personally, I've lost faith in AdAware. It finds a lot of benevolent
"tracking cookies", and I find that annoying.

11-08-2008

"Amanda" <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan
> frequently
> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do
> if
> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I
> was
> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan
> it
> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
> after that the hijacking thing was gone.
> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
> Are these likely to conflict with each other?
> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
> Any thoughts appreciated.

No anti-spyware program is anywhere near 100% effective, and using two or
more is exactly what you should do.

Yes, AdAware is a good choice, as long as you don't rely on it alone.

11-08-2008

Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup.

Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it
is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall"
applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these
applications is recommended to run at any given time. There
are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any
conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be
used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety.

Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know
that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really
determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they
didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.

"Amanda" <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan
> frequently
> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do
> if
> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I
> was
> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan
> it
> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
> after that the hijacking thing was gone.
> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
> Are these likely to conflict with each other?
> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
> Any thoughts appreciated.
> Thanks
> --
> Amanda B

11-08-2008

OK, well 3 opinions now that pretty much told me what I had thought. I
realize now that there are plenty of posts here already about this, I could
have searched further to find them, and I should have. Thanks for answering!
--
Amanda B

"FromTheRafters" wrote:

Quote:

> Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup.
>
> Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it
> is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall"
> applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these
> applications is recommended to run at any given time. There
> are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any
> conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be
> used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety.
>
> Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know
> that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really
> determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they
> didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.
>
> "Amanda" <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news

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Quote:

> > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
> > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan
> > frequently
> > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
> > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do
> > if
> > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
> > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I
> > was
> > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan
> > it
> > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
> > after that the hijacking thing was gone.
> > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
> > Are these likely to conflict with each other?
> > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
> > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
> > Any thoughts appreciated.
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Amanda B

>
>
>

11-08-2008

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:42:15 -0500, FromTheRafters wrote:

Quote:

> Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know
> that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really
> determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they
> didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.

Quite right! No scanning application can indicate/confirm "system is
clean".
"The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and rebuild."
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx

11-09-2008

Spyware terminator is better than adware. Always use 2 or more anti
spyware solutions. Windows defender is good one. But no adware blocking
or not effective.

I have Webroot spysweeper, A squared (Thanx to WVC for both) and KIS9
with WIN Defender. No attcak

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11-09-2008

Amanda wrote:

Quote:

> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently
> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if
> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was
> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it
> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
> after that the hijacking thing was gone.
> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
> Are these likely to conflict with each other?
> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
> Any thoughts appreciated.
> Thanks

I use the following:

Spybot Search & Destroy
ThreatFire
Super Anti-Spyware
Glary Utilities
Malwarebytes

All the above work with the Avast AV and Windows Defender.

You would think that my system must be super secure. Once in a while my
system will download a new spyware (from a website) which all the above
scanners (with all updates being always current) are still not aware
about the new strain of spyware. That is when I do complete restore
from the backup. It is happening a little bit more frequently than I
would like. So far this year I had to rebuild the laptop 3 times. In a
nutshell, use a good set of anti spyware programs but also maintain a
good backup of your entire computer.

HTH. Good luck.

NJ

11-09-2008

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:49:56 +0530, phoenix_abhi
<phoenix_abhi.3iln1v@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Spyware terminator is better than adware.

Never heard of it.

--
Max

11-08-2008	#1 (permalink)
Amanda n/a posts	AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections. I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and after that the hijacking thing was gone. So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer? Are these likely to conflict with each other? Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now. Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks -- Amanda B
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11-08-2008	#2 (permalink)
Big D n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? Amanda <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer? Obviously - since it took all 3 to fix your system - yes. It's always good to use a few, rather than one or two. You can add Malwarebytes to the list. Also Spybot Search and Destroy. Personally, I've lost faith in AdAware. It finds a lot of benevolent "tracking cookies", and I find that annoying.
My System Specs

11-08-2008	#3 (permalink)
Ken Blake n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? "Amanda" <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections. > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan > frequently > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do > if > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I > was > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan > it > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and > after that the hijacking thing was gone. > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer? > Are these likely to conflict with each other? > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now. > Any thoughts appreciated. No anti-spyware program is anywhere near 100% effective, and using two or more is exactly what you should do. Yes, AdAware is a good choice, as long as you don't rely on it alone.
My System Specs

11-08-2008	#4 (permalink)
FromTheRafters n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup. Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall" applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these applications is recommended to run at any given time. There are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety. Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing. "Amanda" <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections. > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan > frequently > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do > if > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I > was > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan > it > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and > after that the hijacking thing was gone. > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer? > Are these likely to conflict with each other? > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now. > Any thoughts appreciated. > Thanks > -- > Amanda B
My System Specs

11-08-2008	#5 (permalink)
Amanda n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? OK, well 3 opinions now that pretty much told me what I had thought. I realize now that there are plenty of posts here already about this, I could have searched further to find them, and I should have. Thanks for answering! -- Amanda B "FromTheRafters" wrote: Quote: > Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup. > > Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it > is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall" > applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these > applications is recommended to run at any given time. There > are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any > conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be > used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety. > > Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know > that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really > determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they > didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing. > > "Amanda" <Amanda@xxxxxx> wrote in message > newsC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections. > > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan > > frequently > > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the > > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do > > if > > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which > > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I > > was > > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan > > it > > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and > > after that the hijacking thing was gone. > > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer? > > Are these likely to conflict with each other? > > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this > > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now. > > Any thoughts appreciated. > > Thanks > > -- > > Amanda B > > >
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11-08-2008	#6 (permalink)
Kayman n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:42:15 -0500, FromTheRafters wrote: Quote: > Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know > that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really > determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they > didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing. Quite right! No scanning application can indicate/confirm "system is clean". "The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and rebuild." http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx
My System Specs

11-09-2008	#7 (permalink)
phoenix_abhi n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? Spyware terminator is better than adware. Always use 2 or more anti spyware solutions. Windows defender is good one. But no adware blocking or not effective. I have Webroot spysweeper, A squared (Thanx to WVC for both) and KIS9 with WIN Defender. No attcak -- phoenix_abhi 'Technical Development and INDIA' (http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/home.jsp) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ phoenix_abhi's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25886
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11-09-2008	#8 (permalink)
Neil Jones n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? Amanda wrote: Quote: > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections. > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and > after that the hijacking thing was gone. > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer? > Are these likely to conflict with each other? > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now. > Any thoughts appreciated. > Thanks I use the following: Spybot Search & Destroy ThreatFire Super Anti-Spyware Glary Utilities Malwarebytes All the above work with the Avast AV and Windows Defender. You would think that my system must be super secure. Once in a while my system will download a new spyware (from a website) which all the above scanners (with all updates being always current) are still not aware about the new strain of spyware. That is when I do complete restore from the backup. It is happening a little bit more frequently than I would like. So far this year I had to rebuild the laptop 3 times. In a nutshell, use a good set of anti spyware programs but also maintain a good backup of your entire computer. HTH. Good luck. NJ
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11-09-2008	#9 (permalink)
The Max n/a posts	Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware? On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:49:56 +0530, phoenix_abhi <phoenix_abhi.3iln1v@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Spyware terminator is better than adware. Never heard of it. -- Max
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