I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
--
barny

It works well on XP but MS has not made it available for public testing as of yet. MS should be starting Vista testing soon though.

--
Jason

Windows Vista RC1 Build 5600 & 5728
MS Office 2007 B2TR
"barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
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barny

Thanks Jason for the reply...

I'm currently using WOC on XP Pro but have the Vista Beta2 disk and wanted
to load it on top of XP.
When I run the Vista Upgrade Advisory tool, it show compatibility issues
with WOC and a couple of other devices and programs. I've uninstalled the
devices and software except for WOC. Like you said, it is running great with
XP.
I was hoping MS would have a compatible version....

barny


"Jason" wrote:

> It works well on XP but MS has not made it available for public testing as
> of yet. MS should be starting Vista testing soon though.
>
> --
> Jason
>
> Windows Vista RC1 Build 5600 & 5728
> MS Office 2007 B2TR
> "barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
> I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
> --
> barny
>

Thanks Jason for the reply,

I'm using WOC with XP Pro now but want to upgrade to Vista Beta2. The
Windows Upgrade Advisory Tool shows compatibility issues with WOC and a
couple of other programs and devices on my system.
Was hoping MS would have a compatible version of WOC.
--
barny


"Jason" wrote:

> It works well on XP but MS has not made it available for public testing as
> of yet. MS should be starting Vista testing soon though.
>
> --
> Jason
>
> Windows Vista RC1 Build 5600 & 5728
> MS Office 2007 B2TR
> "barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
> I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
> --
> barny
>

OneCare is great - it is memory efficient, very lightweight, easy to use and
effective.
I participated in all its beta's and then bought two sets of it in release.
It is also very affordable, where one seat allows one to install it on three
machines.

It combines a good balance of essential system protections - from a firewall
that replaces
the Windows firewall in the Windows Security Center, which adds out-bound
protections and
rules that are very simple, on the fly, rules that one can easily apply, to
system maintenance and
backup. It is also much less "chatty" and in your face... as compared to
many security suites.
When used with IE 7 RC-1, or Vista, and Windows Defender, one can be
reasonably sure that
their system will remain safe and sound... provided they stay away from
malicious sites, and do not
do anything foolish [like running a machine in the context of a local
machine administrator!!!].

It has only one behavior that I do not like - for laptops, or systems that
one may not use all the time,
it runs the maintenace tuneup upon startup. While the intent is good, it
can get in the way of a user in
a rush to use a system. This can be an annoyance on less powerful system
that have a slower drive
sub-system and less I/O - for example, on a laptop that is not used
everyday, but brought into use
for a meeting, or presentation.

I'd give OneCare a shot and see how it works - I think most home, or SOHO
users would like it.

Other than that one minor behavior, OneCare is pretty awesome.
"barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
>I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
> --
> barny

Lloyd,

Are you currently using WOC on Vista?
--
barny


"Lloyd" wrote:

> OneCare is great - it is memory efficient, very lightweight, easy to use and
> effective.
> I participated in all its beta's and then bought two sets of it in release.
> It is also very affordable, where one seat allows one to install it on three
> machines.
>
> It combines a good balance of essential system protections - from a firewall
> that replaces
> the Windows firewall in the Windows Security Center, which adds out-bound
> protections and
> rules that are very simple, on the fly, rules that one can easily apply, to
> system maintenance and
> backup. It is also much less "chatty" and in your face... as compared to
> many security suites.
> When used with IE 7 RC-1, or Vista, and Windows Defender, one can be
> reasonably sure that
> their system will remain safe and sound... provided they stay away from
> malicious sites, and do not
> do anything foolish [like running a machine in the context of a local
> machine administrator!!!].
>
> It has only one behavior that I do not like - for laptops, or systems that
> one may not use all the time,
> it runs the maintenace tuneup upon startup. While the intent is good, it
> can get in the way of a user in
> a rush to use a system. This can be an annoyance on less powerful system
> that have a slower drive
> sub-system and less I/O - for example, on a laptop that is not used
> everyday, but brought into use
> for a meeting, or presentation.
>
> I'd give OneCare a shot and see how it works - I think most home, or SOHO
> users would like it.
>
> Other than that one minor behavior, OneCare is pretty awesome.
> "barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
> >I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
> > --
> > barny
>

Lloyd,
Great plug;
But;
#1 It's not Vista compatible. Yet
#2 Vista's firewall needs nothing- it's WAY better than xp-has Outbound;
oh and the best firewall is a physical box;btw.
#3 All of these services you speak of; are available; free of charge.
Ahh, but it's your money--lol

Jeff

"Lloyd" <lketchum@libertech.net> wrote in message
news:2335152E-9E4A-42CF-A159-8AC9A5FB10CC@microsoft.com...
> OneCare is great - it is memory efficient, very lightweight, easy to use
> and effective.
> I participated in all its beta's and then bought two sets of it in
> release.
> It is also very affordable, where one seat allows one to install it on
> three machines.
>
> It combines a good balance of essential system protections - from a
> firewall that replaces
> the Windows firewall in the Windows Security Center, which adds out-bound
> protections and
> rules that are very simple, on the fly, rules that one can easily apply,
> to system maintenance and
> backup. It is also much less "chatty" and in your face... as compared to
> many security suites.
> When used with IE 7 RC-1, or Vista, and Windows Defender, one can be
> reasonably sure that
> their system will remain safe and sound... provided they stay away from
> malicious sites, and do not
> do anything foolish [like running a machine in the context of a local
> machine administrator!!!].
>
> It has only one behavior that I do not like - for laptops, or systems that
> one may not use all the time,
> it runs the maintenace tuneup upon startup. While the intent is good, it
> can get in the way of a user in
> a rush to use a system. This can be an annoyance on less powerful system
> that have a slower drive
> sub-system and less I/O - for example, on a laptop that is not used
> everyday, but brought into use
> for a meeting, or presentation.
>
> I'd give OneCare a shot and see how it works - I think most home, or SOHO
> users would like it.
>
> Other than that one minor behavior, OneCare is pretty awesome.
> "barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
>>I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
>> --
>> barny
>

No, not yet, but I will be testing it very soon.

As you know, WOC for XP is not yet ported for any of Vista's evaluation
builds available in
any channel.

I am running Trend's Suite 14, which is available for eval with Vista
evaluations - build 14.56.1008
on Vista [build 5728].

It works fine, but left to default settings, it updates indiscreetly each 3
hours - doesn't take long,
but if a user does not adjust it, it can be annoying.


"barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:957C9E06-F00A-44E4-A276-A68B4458F28D@microsoft.com...
> Lloyd,
>
> Are you currently using WOC on Vista?
> --
> barny
>
>
> "Lloyd" wrote:
>
>> OneCare is great - it is memory efficient, very lightweight, easy to use
>> and
>> effective.
>> I participated in all its beta's and then bought two sets of it in
>> release.
>> It is also very affordable, where one seat allows one to install it on
>> three
>> machines.
>>
>> It combines a good balance of essential system protections - from a
>> firewall
>> that replaces
>> the Windows firewall in the Windows Security Center, which adds out-bound
>> protections and
>> rules that are very simple, on the fly, rules that one can easily apply,
>> to
>> system maintenance and
>> backup. It is also much less "chatty" and in your face... as compared to
>> many security suites.
>> When used with IE 7 RC-1, or Vista, and Windows Defender, one can be
>> reasonably sure that
>> their system will remain safe and sound... provided they stay away from
>> malicious sites, and do not
>> do anything foolish [like running a machine in the context of a local
>> machine administrator!!!].
>>
>> It has only one behavior that I do not like - for laptops, or systems
>> that
>> one may not use all the time,
>> it runs the maintenace tuneup upon startup. While the intent is good, it
>> can get in the way of a user in
>> a rush to use a system. This can be an annoyance on less powerful system
>> that have a slower drive
>> sub-system and less I/O - for example, on a laptop that is not used
>> everyday, but brought into use
>> for a meeting, or presentation.
>>
>> I'd give OneCare a shot and see how it works - I think most home, or SOHO
>> users would like it.
>>
>> Other than that one minor behavior, OneCare is pretty awesome.
>> "barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
>> >I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
>> > --
>> > barny
>>

All true statements; however, using OneCare unifies the security and
maintenance suite for users
who prefer not to have to find and manage many separate and possibly less
well supported products.

Further, the integration is very tight and the product is very easy to use.
Also, one price provides protection for
up to three computers in a home or small office. It's a good buy, for that
reason and tracks with pricing
in similar packs for student and teacher versions of office - meaning, there
is some consideration for the
realities facing families - lot's of kids with computers and little time to
chase security and maintenance.

Yes, Vista's firewall is very comprehensive - but... most users will never
find it and only use its basic
interface from inside the control panel or the security center. Very few
will go to administrative tools and
explore the much more capable and complex Vista firewall - which looks very
much like ISA 2006 in that
it treats every action as a publishing rule. It is great, but I suspect few
home users will get too far into it.

I do maintain that OneCare combines the balance of features and ease of use
home users are looking for - without
the memory and systems tax many users have experienced with Symantec's, or
McAffee's products, for example.



"Jeff" <alemaker@gmailer.com> wrote in message
news:uzzfX9Y4GHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Lloyd,
> Great plug;
> But;
> #1 It's not Vista compatible. Yet
> #2 Vista's firewall needs nothing- it's WAY better than xp-has
> Outbound; oh and the best firewall is a physical box;btw.
> #3 All of these services you speak of; are available; free of charge.
> Ahh, but it's your money--lol
>
> Jeff
>
> "Lloyd" <lketchum@libertech.net> wrote in message
> news:2335152E-9E4A-42CF-A159-8AC9A5FB10CC@microsoft.com...
>> OneCare is great - it is memory efficient, very lightweight, easy to use
>> and effective.
>> I participated in all its beta's and then bought two sets of it in
>> release.
>> It is also very affordable, where one seat allows one to install it on
>> three machines.
>>
>> It combines a good balance of essential system protections - from a
>> firewall that replaces
>> the Windows firewall in the Windows Security Center, which adds out-bound
>> protections and
>> rules that are very simple, on the fly, rules that one can easily apply,
>> to system maintenance and
>> backup. It is also much less "chatty" and in your face... as compared to
>> many security suites.
>> When used with IE 7 RC-1, or Vista, and Windows Defender, one can be
>> reasonably sure that
>> their system will remain safe and sound... provided they stay away from
>> malicious sites, and do not
>> do anything foolish [like running a machine in the context of a local
>> machine administrator!!!].
>>
>> It has only one behavior that I do not like - for laptops, or systems
>> that one may not use all the time,
>> it runs the maintenace tuneup upon startup. While the intent is good, it
>> can get in the way of a user in
>> a rush to use a system. This can be an annoyance on less powerful system
>> that have a slower drive
>> sub-system and less I/O - for example, on a laptop that is not used
>> everyday, but brought into use
>> for a meeting, or presentation.
>>
>> I'd give OneCare a shot and see how it works - I think most home, or SOHO
>> users would like it.
>>
>> Other than that one minor behavior, OneCare is pretty awesome.
>> "barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
>>>I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
>>> --
>>> barny
>>
>

Please do not recommend products for vista that are incompatable with Vista.
The ocbeta team will send a message to beta testers when a vista compatable
version becomes available. OC won't istall on vista, vista blocks the
installation of incompatable or conflicting programs. Why don't you post
your OC Pimp action on an xp newsgroup where it belongs.

"Lloyd" <lketchum@libertech.net> wrote in message
news:7C3FDD3F-59A8-4705-A7E4-7EF4997E4032@microsoft.com...
> All true statements; however, using OneCare unifies the security and
> maintenance suite for users
> who prefer not to have to find and manage many separate and possibly less
> well supported products.
>
> Further, the integration is very tight and the product is very easy to
> use. Also, one price provides protection for
> up to three computers in a home or small office. It's a good buy, for
> that reason and tracks with pricing
> in similar packs for student and teacher versions of office - meaning,
> there is some consideration for the
> realities facing families - lot's of kids with computers and little time
> to chase security and maintenance.
>
> Yes, Vista's firewall is very comprehensive - but... most users will never
> find it and only use its basic
> interface from inside the control panel or the security center. Very few
> will go to administrative tools and
> explore the much more capable and complex Vista firewall - which looks
> very much like ISA 2006 in that
> it treats every action as a publishing rule. It is great, but I suspect
> few home users will get too far into it.
>
> I do maintain that OneCare combines the balance of features and ease of
> use home users are looking for - without
> the memory and systems tax many users have experienced with Symantec's, or
> McAffee's products, for example.
>
>
>
> "Jeff" <alemaker@gmailer.com> wrote in message
> news:uzzfX9Y4GHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Lloyd,
>> Great plug;
>> But;
>> #1 It's not Vista compatible. Yet
>> #2 Vista's firewall needs nothing- it's WAY better than xp-has
>> Outbound; oh and the best firewall is a physical box;btw.
>> #3 All of these services you speak of; are available; free of charge.
>> Ahh, but it's your money--lol
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> "Lloyd" <lketchum@libertech.net> wrote in message
>> news:2335152E-9E4A-42CF-A159-8AC9A5FB10CC@microsoft.com...
>>> OneCare is great - it is memory efficient, very lightweight, easy to use
>>> and effective.
>>> I participated in all its beta's and then bought two sets of it in
>>> release.
>>> It is also very affordable, where one seat allows one to install it on
>>> three machines.
>>>
>>> It combines a good balance of essential system protections - from a
>>> firewall that replaces
>>> the Windows firewall in the Windows Security Center, which adds
>>> out-bound protections and
>>> rules that are very simple, on the fly, rules that one can easily apply,
>>> to system maintenance and
>>> backup. It is also much less "chatty" and in your face... as compared
>>> to many security suites.
>>> When used with IE 7 RC-1, or Vista, and Windows Defender, one can be
>>> reasonably sure that
>>> their system will remain safe and sound... provided they stay away from
>>> malicious sites, and do not
>>> do anything foolish [like running a machine in the context of a local
>>> machine administrator!!!].
>>>
>>> It has only one behavior that I do not like - for laptops, or systems
>>> that one may not use all the time,
>>> it runs the maintenace tuneup upon startup. While the intent is good,
>>> it can get in the way of a user in
>>> a rush to use a system. This can be an annoyance on less powerful
>>> system that have a slower drive
>>> sub-system and less I/O - for example, on a laptop that is not used
>>> everyday, but brought into use
>>> for a meeting, or presentation.
>>>
>>> I'd give OneCare a shot and see how it works - I think most home, or
>>> SOHO users would like it.
>>>
>>> Other than that one minor behavior, OneCare is pretty awesome.
>>> "barnyf" <barnyf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BAECA510-B5B2-44AD-BA4B-52580E920DB9@microsoft.com...
>>>>I don't see where anyone has mentioned MS's own AV software...WOC.Live
>>>> --
>>>> barny
>>>
>>
>