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Old 04-15-2009   #1 (permalink)
Oliver Costich


 
 

"You need permission to perform this action" insanity

I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
Acrobat 8.

When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
action". Here's what I have tried so far:

UAC is off.

Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab

Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
/active:yes in cmd run as administrator)



I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.

HELP!!

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-16-2009   #2 (permalink)
Steve McGarrett


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:51:24 -0700, Oliver Costich <oc@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
>things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
>delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
>Acrobat 8.
>
>When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
>action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
>UAC is off.
>
>Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
>Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
>/active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
>I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
>Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
>HELP!!
Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click
context menu.

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/

Works most of the time.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-16-2009   #3 (permalink)
Dave Warren


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

In message <msddu4puasd20a4et788fc6sih14uami6b@xxxxxx> Steve McGarrett
<smcgarret@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote:
Quote:

>Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click
>context menu.
>
>http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
>
>Works most of the time.
Be aware that this can cause some rather interesting file corruption...
Shut down everything you can, and reboot immediately after using
unlocker.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2009   #4 (permalink)


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

Oh, It might be related to your previous operating system.
Vista is not able to ensure permission of operating files and folders which
are created in Windows XP automatically.
I'm not so sure, and do not have a solution.


"Oliver Costich" <oc@xxxxxx> 写入消息
news:qm6du4p30f152b51chs5vimeorad8njc68@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
> Acrobat 8.
>
> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
> action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
> UAC is off.
>
> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
> HELP!!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2009   #5 (permalink)
FromTheRafters


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

"Oliver Costich" <oc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:qm6du4p30f152b51chs5vimeorad8njc68@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
> Acrobat 8.
>
> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
> action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
> UAC is off.
>
> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
> HELP!!
You don't mention the use of icacls to affect the Mandatory Label.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc753525.aspx


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2009   #6 (permalink)


Vista x64 + Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Steve McGarrett View Post
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:51:24 -0700, Oliver Costich <oc@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
>things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
>delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
>Acrobat 8.
>
>When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
>action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
>UAC is off.
>
>Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
>Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
>/active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
>I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
>Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
>HELP!!
Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click
context menu.

UNLOCKER 1.8.7 BY CEDRICK 'NITCH' COLLOMB

Works most of the time.
I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly, this will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do with permissions to move, transfer or save a file?

Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.

I am going to try it anyways because, I don't want to loose the files I have right now and, at this point, I can't even open them where they stand, even though I have full access to it, I have taken ownership of it and the whole drive is also fully accessible for me.

I hope this is the correct or proper etiquette even though I have no answer for it.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-23-2009   #7 (permalink)
Dave Warren


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

In message <32d448550bcea398733f3ef684eee96b@xxxxxx-gateway.com>
AstaLaVista <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> was claimed to have wrote:
Quote:

>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but
>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly, this
>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do with
>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?
The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file locks
isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused
and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't
the issue.
Quote:

>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant
>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.
Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions and
locks are very different things.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-23-2009   #8 (permalink)
Leo


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

Maybe this will help.


Step by step instruction on how to take ownership of a folder



Run CMD (as administrator) and type: takeown [path] /f <filename or folder>

OR

- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties

- Click Security Tab

- Click Advanced

- Click the Owner Tab

- Click Edit

- Select the Administrators group from the list

- Click OK

- Click OK

- Click OK

You have now taken 'Ownership' of the file and you can close the property

Windows



Now again



1) Right-click on the file

2) Select Properties

3) Go to the Security tab again, click the Advanced button

4) Now Press Edit, then double-click 'Administrators' in the list and tick

the 'allow' box for 'Full control'



You have now taken 'Full control' of file


--
Leo

Liberalism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.







<huhansen318@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23kF$OXzwJHA.1300@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Oh, It might be related to your previous operating system.
> Vista is not able to ensure permission of operating files and folders which
> are created in Windows XP automatically.
> I'm not so sure, and do not have a solution.
>
>
> "Oliver Costich" <oc@xxxxxx> 写入消息
> news:qm6du4p30f152b51chs5vimeorad8njc68@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
>> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
>> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
>> Acrobat 8.
>>
>> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
>> action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>>
>> UAC is off.
>>
>> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>>
>> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
>> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
>> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>>
>> HELP!!
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-23-2009   #9 (permalink)
FromTheRafters


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

"Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:f0ruu45porinib0o1t8cpntcvtv38ah4qf@xxxxxx
Quote:

> In message <32d448550bcea398733f3ef684eee96b@xxxxxx-gateway.com>
> AstaLaVista <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>
Quote:

>>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but
>>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly,
>>this
>>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do
>>with
>>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?
>
> The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file
> locks
> isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused
> and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't
> the issue.
>
Quote:

>>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant
>>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.
>
> Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions
> and
> locks are very different things.
Confusion between "blocked" (executable from internet), "locked" (in use
by another application, or in some cases encrypted), "permissions"
(privileges), and "integrity levels" (Mandatory Label/IE protected
mode). All these just mean "Windows Vista won't let me..." to the
average user.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-23-2009   #10 (permalink)
Dave Warren


 
 

Re: "You need permission to perform this action" insanity

In message <uQruQgFxJHA.5584@xxxxxx> "FromTheRafters"
<erratic @nomail.afraid.org> was claimed to have wrote:
Quote:

>"Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:f0ruu45porinib0o1t8cpntcvtv38ah4qf@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> In message <32d448550bcea398733f3ef684eee96b@xxxxxx-gateway.com>
>> AstaLaVista <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but
>>>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly,
>>>this
>>>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do
>>>with
>>>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?
>>
>> The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file
>> locks
>> isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused
>> and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't
>> the issue.
>>
Quote:

>>>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant
>>>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.
>>
>> Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions
>> and
>> locks are very different things.
>
>Confusion between "blocked" (executable from internet), "locked" (in use
>by another application, or in some cases encrypted), "permissions"
>(privileges), and "integrity levels" (Mandatory Label/IE protected
>mode). All these just mean "Windows Vista won't let me..." to the
>average user.
>
True, but the solution is still quite different depending on the
underlying problem.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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