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Old 04-21-2009   #1 (permalink)
JamesJ


 
 

Windows Firewall and 3rd Party Firewall

Windows Vista Basic sp1.

Im using a 3rd party firewall program. In Administrative Tools---Services
it shows Windows Firewall status as Started. But, in Security Center it
shows my 3rd party firewall being On but Windows Firewall being off.
Also, in Administrative Tools---Windows Firewall with Advanced Security is
showing
Windows Firewall being on in Domain Profile. Is this normal?
Why would one show Windows Firewall as On and another show it as Off???

James


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Old 04-21-2009   #2 (permalink)
Victek


 
 

Re: Windows Firewall and 3rd Party Firewall

> Windows Vista Basic sp1.
Quote:

>
> Im using a 3rd party firewall program. In Administrative Tools---Services
> it shows Windows Firewall status as Started. But, in Security Center it
> shows my 3rd party firewall being On but Windows Firewall being off.
> Also, in Administrative Tools---Windows Firewall with Advanced Security is
> showing
> Windows Firewall being on in Domain Profile. Is this normal?
> Why would one show Windows Firewall as On and another show it as Off???
>
> James
>
Interesting. I have Vista Business SP1 and see the same thing. Apparently
running the service is not the same an enabling the firewall. I guess you
could turn off the service, however if you uninstall the 3rd party firewall
you would have to remember to turn the service back on. 3rd party firewalls
are usually smart enough to toggle the Windows firewall off when they
install, and back on if they are uninstalled, but obviously the service
needs to keep running for that to not require user interaction.

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Old 04-21-2009   #3 (permalink)
JamesJ


 
 

Re: Windows Firewall and 3rd Party Firewall

I keep hearing about it's not a good idea to have 2 Firewall programs
running, that they
could conflict.


"Victek" <Victek@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:
Quote:

>> Windows Vista Basic sp1.
>>
>> Im using a 3rd party firewall program. In Administrative Tools---Services
>> it shows Windows Firewall status as Started. But, in Security Center it
>> shows my 3rd party firewall being On but Windows Firewall being off.
>> Also, in Administrative Tools---Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
>> is showing
>> Windows Firewall being on in Domain Profile. Is this normal?
>> Why would one show Windows Firewall as On and another show it as Off???
>>
>> James
>>
> Interesting. I have Vista Business SP1 and see the same thing.
> Apparently running the service is not the same an enabling the firewall.
> I guess you could turn off the service, however if you uninstall the 3rd
> party firewall you would have to remember to turn the service back on.
> 3rd party firewalls are usually smart enough to toggle the Windows
> firewall off when they install, and back on if they are uninstalled, but
> obviously the service needs to keep running for that to not require user
> interaction.
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Old 04-22-2009   #4 (permalink)


 
 

Re: Windows Firewall and 3rd Party Firewall

I think when Windows Vista detects a third party firewall, it will
automatically turn off its built-in firewall to avoid conflict.
Maybe a security suite is not the best solution for personally computer, but
it is not something bad from my point of view.
So you can ignore Windows Firewall if you have already had your own firewall
product.

"JamesJ" <jjy@xxxxxx_roadrunner.com> 写入消息
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> Windows Vista Basic sp1.
>
> Im using a 3rd party firewall program. In Administrative Tools---Services
> it shows Windows Firewall status as Started. But, in Security Center it
> shows my 3rd party firewall being On but Windows Firewall being off.
> Also, in Administrative Tools---Windows Firewall with Advanced Security is
> showing
> Windows Firewall being on in Domain Profile. Is this normal?
> Why would one show Windows Firewall as On and another show it as Off???
>
> James
>
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Old 04-22-2009   #5 (permalink)
Mads Petersen


 
 

Re: Windows Firewall and 3rd Party Firewall

<huhansen318@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelelsen
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> I think when Windows Vista detects a third party firewall, it will
> automatically turn off its built-in firewall to avoid conflict.
> Maybe a security suite is not the best solution for personally computer,
> but it is not something bad from my point of view.
> So you can ignore Windows Firewall if you have already had your own
> firewall product.
Why would you use a third party firewall compared to the built-in?
filtering outgoing connections is pointless, because it's already gameover
when malware is in ur system when running as local admin, and you can
filter just fine with the built-in also.

Incoming connections to a port that has no service running will be denied by
default OS design.

I can't see the idea in using a third party firewall compared to the
built-in, maybe if you wanted another GUI?

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