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Personal Administrator Account not acting like Administrator Account
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    Richard B Guest

    Personal Administrator Account not acting like Administrator Account

    Something has happened to my personal Administrator account that makes
    believe I have lost permissions on a number of areas throughout the
    Windows system.

    For example: an attempt to cleanup the registry using certain program is
    denying my account access to do certain cleaning tasks that need to be
    completed. I can run program under the Vista Administrator account, but
    why is my personal Administrator account being denied?



    This is just one of many similar occurances that have happened. I try
    to do something that the Administrator should have access to and it
    denies me saying I don't have permission for that task.

    Is there some way to fix this on a larger scale? I really don't want to
    keep the Vista Administrator account active and have to run over to it
    every time I hit one of these problems.

    Thanks,

    Richard..

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    FromTheRafters Guest

    Re: Personal Administrator Account not acting like Administrator Account

    "Richard B" <rbillingsley@newsgroup> wrote in message
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    > Something has happened to my personal Administrator account that makes
    > believe I have lost permissions on a number of areas throughout the
    > Windows system.
    >
    > For example: an attempt to cleanup the registry using certain program
    > is denying my account access to do certain cleaning tasks that need to
    > be completed. I can run program under the Vista Administrator
    > account, but why is my personal Administrator account being denied?
    Use the 'run as' option when invoking the registry cleaner from your
    account.

    > This is just one of many similar occurances that have happened. I try
    > to do something that the Administrator should have access to and it
    > denies me saying I don't have permission for that task.
    Vista has another mechanism for denying access besides just the normal
    'permissions'. Integrity Levels come into play.

    > Is there some way to fix this on a larger scale? I really don't want
    > to keep the Vista Administrator account active and have to run over to
    > it every time I hit one of these problems.
    Don't worry about having the admin account active. The admin account
    that Vista leaves you after installation is completed is a "protected"
    admin not the "real" admin. The "real" admin account is disabled and
    hidden by Vista after installation. If you must, you can enable the
    "real" administrator and use *it* for administrative duties.

    I don't suppose I have any chance of convincing you to use a standard
    user account - and the "real" admin only for administrative tasks?



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    who Guest

    Re: Personal Administrator Account not acting like Administrator Account

    FTR:

    > I don't suppose I have any chance of convincing you to use a standard
    user account - and the "real" admin only for administrative tasks?

    You missed the real point. That's not the exact issue.

    I use a limited user acct for everything except software installs, etc.

    And let me tell you -- it's a real pisser when I'm doing something in the
    _admin acct_ and Vista DENIES me. F that. I AM in the admin acct!

    In XP, the admin acct is the admin acct.
    In unix, the root acct is the root acct.
    In Vista, sometimes it is, sometimes it's not.
    The Vista developers had their heads so far up their ass they could see
    their tonsils.



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    FromTheRafters Guest

    Re: Personal Administrator Account not acting like Administrator Account

    "who" <who@newsgroup> wrote in message
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    > FTR:

    >> I don't suppose I have any chance of convincing you to use a standard
    > user account - and the "real" admin only for administrative tasks?
    >
    > You missed the real point. That's not the exact issue.
    Don't get excited, I wasn't trying to harass you. There is nothing at
    all wrong with making the real administrator account one that you can
    have displayed on the login screen enabled and unhidden. This is
    especially so if the user really knows what he is doing - and is not
    just being admin because of ego.

    > I use a limited user acct for everything except software installs,
    > etc.
    >
    > And let me tell you -- it's a real pisser when I'm doing something in
    > the _admin acct_ and Vista DENIES me. F that. I AM in the admin
    > acct!
    *Which* admin account? Are you using the admin account in Admin Approval
    Mode (AAM)?
    Or are you using the real "Administrator" account?

    > In XP, the admin acct is the admin acct.
    Yes.

    > In unix, the root acct is the root acct.
    Yes.

    > In Vista, sometimes it is, sometimes it's not.
    No, it is only the "admin" account if you are using the real
    "Administrator" account - otherwise it is a limited user account with
    easy access to admin credentials via a "consent prompt" (AAM) - other
    limited user accounts have can have access to the admin credentials only
    by entering them at the credentials prompt (called an 'over the
    shoulder' prompt).

    > The Vista developers had their heads so far up their ass they could
    > see their tonsils.
    The problem the Vista developers had was the fact that XP left the user
    running as admin as the default configuration. It was recommended that
    users create their own limited user account to run for for everyday
    things. They didn't do that, and the internet quickly became a like
    cesspool full of nasty worms and trojans. They felt compelled to have
    the default condition such that the user that wanted to remain admin for
    everything didn't continue to pollute as much as was the case with XP.

    You can ditch the AAM quasi-admin and run as real "Administrator" - but
    I wouldn't suggest doing any browsing...etc...while logged on as the
    real Administrator.



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