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| Guest | DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtualiza if you disable the UAC you're stupid because the first virus-trojan you get will be able to destroy your computer just like happens in Windows XP. if you disable the UAC, you'll loose also the file and registry virtualization needed to work bad designed applications as standard user. PLEASE don't be stupid, don't disable the UAC and be happy to run Windows Vista as a Standard user |
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| Guest | Re: DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtualiza I have to wonder what your purpose would be in life were it not for UAC.. "mik" <mik@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9E821E99-2DFB-45EE-8A1B-842E7B7B1AD7@microsoft.com... > if you disable the UAC you're stupid because the first virus-trojan you > get > will be able to destroy your computer just like happens in Windows XP. > if you disable the UAC, you'll loose also the file and > registry virtualization needed to work bad designed applications as > standard > user. > PLEASE don't be stupid, don't disable the UAC and be happy to run Windows > Vista as a Standard user |
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| Guest | Re: DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtualiza "mik" <mik@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9E821E99-2DFB-45EE-8A1B-842E7B7B1AD7@microsoft.com... > if you disable the UAC you're stupid because the first virus-trojan you > get > will be able to destroy your computer just like happens in Windows XP. > if you disable the UAC, you'll loose also the file and > registry virtualization needed to work bad designed applications as > standard > user. > PLEASE don't be stupid, don't disable the UAC and be happy to run Windows > Vista as a Standard user I also disabled file/registry virtualization! Bud did reenable UAC because IE protected mode didn't work, otherwise I woudl have left it disabled. - Kurt |
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| Guest | Re: DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtualiza Hi Mik, This is incorrect; it would only apply if you were running as an Administrator. If you know something about computers, and you _were_ running as an Administrator, you DESERVE to be hacked. There's also a good reason to get rid of the file and registry virtualization; can you imagine the nightmare of trying to troubleshoot a program when none of it's files and registry keys are in the right places, and how will you cope with MSI installs when the profiles no longer exist on the local machine? This will lead to a registry mess the likes of which has never been seen before! If you know all about NTUSER.DAT and how installers enum "User Shell Folders" you'll probably be OK, otherwise... mik wrote: > if you disable the UAC you're stupid because the first virus-trojan you get > will be able to destroy your computer just like happens in Windows XP. > if you disable the UAC, you'll loose also the file and > registry virtualization needed to work bad designed applications as standard > user. > PLEASE don't be stupid, don't disable the UAC and be happy to run Windows > Vista as a Standard user -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) |
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| Guest | Re: DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtualiza I have yet to experience any problems running my machine as an Administrator with UAC disabled. Of course, I've never had any problems in previous versions of Windows either. I think the last time I got a virus was.....maybe 8 years ago? I have seen IIS5 get smacked around a bit but that was a quick fix (switched to apache!). Keep in mind there are people that do know how to use computers. "mik" <mik@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9E821E99-2DFB-45EE-8A1B-842E7B7B1AD7@microsoft.com... > if you disable the UAC you're stupid because the first virus-trojan you > get > will be able to destroy your computer just like happens in Windows XP. > if you disable the UAC, you'll loose also the file and > registry virtualization needed to work bad designed applications as > standard > user. > PLEASE don't be stupid, don't disable the UAC and be happy to run Windows > Vista as a Standard user |
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| Guest | Re: DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtua "Gerry Hickman" wrote: > There's also a good reason to get rid of the file and registry > virtualization; can you imagine the nightmare of trying to troubleshoot > a program when none of it's files and registry keys are in the right > places, Everything is transparent for the applications, so you're ignorant. Study how file and registry virtualization works! |
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| Guest | Re: DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtua Wow, Interesting replies, the stupid and ignorant comments, come on everyone, we are all working the systems differently. I must admit I have not too fond of the UAC but based on what I have been reading you all of your posts I think I'd better get to it. Now, Microsoft always promotes the priv vs. non-priv accounts and how you should operate as an administrator, introduced the "run as" and to be quit honest as an administrator of various networks, its a royal pain. SAFER yes, but too much of a headache. I personally have disabled UAC because there is no way I could continue to see that pop up as if I wasn't an administratore. I think its geared more for home users. BUT just in case, I'll read up. Just as others, I too have not encountered a virus in YEARS. BUT if I did, I wouldnt care much, it's a 20 min. re-image job. None of my workers keep valid data locally, doesn't make good sense. I have also just installed Vista only recently and have had little problems installing applications of various kinds. With all of that being said, please tell me the more educated Vista experts here, what is the big deal about this UAC for true network admins? "Mike C." wrote: > I have yet to experience any problems running my machine as an Administrator > with UAC disabled. Of course, I've never had any problems in previous > versions of Windows either. I think the last time I got a virus > was.....maybe 8 years ago? > > I have seen IIS5 get smacked around a bit but that was a quick fix (switched > to apache!). > > Keep in mind there are people that do know how to use computers. > > > > "mik" <mik@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:9E821E99-2DFB-45EE-8A1B-842E7B7B1AD7@microsoft.com... > > if you disable the UAC you're stupid because the first virus-trojan you > > get > > will be able to destroy your computer just like happens in Windows XP. > > if you disable the UAC, you'll loose also the file and > > registry virtualization needed to work bad designed applications as > > standard > > user. > > PLEASE don't be stupid, don't disable the UAC and be happy to run Windows > > Vista as a Standard user > > |
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| Guest | Re: DON'T DISABLE the UAC or you'll loose file and registry virtua Hello, <snip> > what is the big deal about this > UAC for true network admins? Immediate benefits for admins: - Programs that you run that don't need admin privs, don't get it. Do you really want notepad running around with privileges to format all of the hard drives in your entire domain? - Programs that NEED admin privs will automatically ask you for this privilege - this means you now know exactly which programs you are running that use admin privs, and which ones don't. - You can easily force a program to use admin privs that doesn't ask for it by right-clicking and clicking Run As Administrator (for those times when you want to use notepad to modify system files, or format hard drives) There's really no sense in allowing all programs you run to have complete control of your domain when they don't need such power. You are still a full-fledged administrator; but Windows now realizes that programs don't need all of your rights and privileges all of the time. YOU now control how programs can use them. Benefits for the users you administer: - The compatability features of UAC (virtualization for example) will help applications that assume they are an administrator to run properly under their standard user account. - When users attempt to do an action that requires administrator privileges in a Vista-designed application, you can set up their workstation so that it tells the user this and asks for an admin login, instead of just "access denied". This should make it easier for your users to understand why they can't do something (it needs admin approval) and easier for you to approve the action (you can just walk to the machine and authenticate - the prompt is up and waiting for you). Long-term benefits of UAC: - Programs will be re-designed so that they will work correctly when running as a standard user, because if they don't, they won't work correctly in Vista, even under an administrator account. This means if your company has standard users running as true standard users, Vista-designed software should "just work" in this environment, instead of you having to hope that the application was properly designed. This should result in better designed software that follows Microsoft's recommendations, which should end up creating an environment that is easier to administer and much more secure. -- - JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ |
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