Windows Vista Forums
Vista Forums Home Join Vista Forums Tech Publications Windows 7 Forum Vista Tutorials Webcasts Tags

Welcome to Vista Forums we are your forum for Windows Vista help and discussion. Whether you need help or just want to post an idea you have on Vista, this is the forum for you.
Register at Vista forums...the world biggest Windows Vista resource Join Vista Forums Now

Go Back   Vista Forums > Vista Newsgroups > Vista security

Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security

Update your Vista Drivers
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-23-2007   #1 (permalink)
Vista Ready
Guest


 

Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security


The below synopsis information (in part) extracted from Microsoft; should
you desire understanding and learning more, please follow the provided URL.

http://hive.net/Member/blogs/the_insider/

It is important to remember that Microsoft (for years) has actively
discouraged third-party applications developers from designing software that
modifies the Windows kernel, because such software has been known to cause
instability issues and lower the reliability of Windows. Rather than allow
kernel modifications that could cause reliability and security problems for
you, Microsoft has worked for many years with third-party developers, such as
security software developers, to encourage the use of Microsoft-supported
extensions that enable them to build more effective and reliable products.

Some security vendors have asked Microsoft to provide instructions on how to
disable Kernel Patch Protection in 64-bit versions of Windows, because their
products include some features that modify the Windows kernel in undocumented
and unsupported ways. Making exceptions and allowing some vendors special
access to modify the Windows Vista kernel is unworkable. It opens the door
wide for malicious software. For example, rootkits could be designed to
present themselves to the operating system in the guise of a legitimate
application that was given special access. Also, making exceptions will
prolong the reliability problems that are caused by unsupported kernel
modification, such as when multiple applications compete to patch the same
kernel interfaces.

In the case of security solutions, unsupported kernel modifications also
limit your choices, by making it extremely difficult or impossible for
multiple security solutions to co-exist reliably on a system. We want to work
with security providers to make common extensions available, so that any
security vendors can use them, and so that security software does not itself
put your security and reliability at risk from malicious kernel modifications.

Here is what we are doing to maintain the integrity and security of 64-bit
Windows, while still addressing the needs of our security partners:

Please follow the above URL for the remainder.

--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

Ambrose Bierce
**********


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-23-2007   #2 (permalink)
Vista Ready
Guest


 

RE: Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security


Please note, the above URL provides Blog Links discussing what occurs when
including add ons within IE 7.

Should you try one of the add ons, be triple certain the add on will
function within Vista, if not troubles and conflicts will you encounter.
--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

Ambrose Bierce
**********



"Vista Ready" wrote:

>
> The below synopsis information (in part) extracted from Microsoft; should
> you desire understanding and learning more, please follow the provided URL.
>
> http://hive.net/Member/blogs/the_insider/
>
> It is important to remember that Microsoft (for years) has actively
> discouraged third-party applications developers from designing software that
> modifies the Windows kernel, because such software has been known to cause
> instability issues and lower the reliability of Windows. Rather than allow
> kernel modifications that could cause reliability and security problems for
> you, Microsoft has worked for many years with third-party developers, such as
> security software developers, to encourage the use of Microsoft-supported
> extensions that enable them to build more effective and reliable products.
>
> Some security vendors have asked Microsoft to provide instructions on how to
> disable Kernel Patch Protection in 64-bit versions of Windows, because their
> products include some features that modify the Windows kernel in undocumented
> and unsupported ways. Making exceptions and allowing some vendors special
> access to modify the Windows Vista kernel is unworkable. It opens the door
> wide for malicious software. For example, rootkits could be designed to
> present themselves to the operating system in the guise of a legitimate
> application that was given special access. Also, making exceptions will
> prolong the reliability problems that are caused by unsupported kernel
> modification, such as when multiple applications compete to patch the same
> kernel interfaces.
>
> In the case of security solutions, unsupported kernel modifications also
> limit your choices, by making it extremely difficult or impossible for
> multiple security solutions to co-exist reliably on a system. We want to work
> with security providers to make common extensions available, so that any
> security vendors can use them, and so that security software does not itself
> put your security and reliability at risk from malicious kernel modifications.
>
> Here is what we are doing to maintain the integrity and security of 64-bit
> Windows, while still addressing the needs of our security partners:
>
> Please follow the above URL for the remainder.
>
> --
> Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
>
> Posting & Painting
> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> exposing them to the critic."
>
> Ambrose Bierce
> **********
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-29-2007   #3 (permalink)
Spot
Guest


 

RE: Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security

Will there be a warning when programs attempt to disable patchguard? Password
prompt maybe?
--
esu lanoisseforp


"Vista Ready" wrote:

>
> Please note, the above URL provides Blog Links discussing what occurs when
> including add ons within IE 7.
>
> Should you try one of the add ons, be triple certain the add on will
> function within Vista, if not troubles and conflicts will you encounter.
> --
> Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
>
> Posting & Painting
> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> exposing them to the critic."
>
> Ambrose Bierce
> **********
>
>
>
> "Vista Ready" wrote:
>
> >
> > The below synopsis information (in part) extracted from Microsoft; should
> > you desire understanding and learning more, please follow the provided URL.
> >
> > http://hive.net/Member/blogs/the_insider/
> >
> > It is important to remember that Microsoft (for years) has actively
> > discouraged third-party applications developers from designing software that
> > modifies the Windows kernel, because such software has been known to cause
> > instability issues and lower the reliability of Windows. Rather than allow
> > kernel modifications that could cause reliability and security problems for
> > you, Microsoft has worked for many years with third-party developers, such as
> > security software developers, to encourage the use of Microsoft-supported
> > extensions that enable them to build more effective and reliable products.
> >
> > Some security vendors have asked Microsoft to provide instructions on how to
> > disable Kernel Patch Protection in 64-bit versions of Windows, because their
> > products include some features that modify the Windows kernel in undocumented
> > and unsupported ways. Making exceptions and allowing some vendors special
> > access to modify the Windows Vista kernel is unworkable. It opens the door
> > wide for malicious software. For example, rootkits could be designed to
> > present themselves to the operating system in the guise of a legitimate
> > application that was given special access. Also, making exceptions will
> > prolong the reliability problems that are caused by unsupported kernel
> > modification, such as when multiple applications compete to patch the same
> > kernel interfaces.
> >
> > In the case of security solutions, unsupported kernel modifications also
> > limit your choices, by making it extremely difficult or impossible for
> > multiple security solutions to co-exist reliably on a system. We want to work
> > with security providers to make common extensions available, so that any
> > security vendors can use them, and so that security software does not itself
> > put your security and reliability at risk from malicious kernel modifications.
> >
> > Here is what we are doing to maintain the integrity and security of 64-bit
> > Windows, while still addressing the needs of our security partners:
> >
> > Please follow the above URL for the remainder.
> >
> > --
> > Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
> >
> > Posting & Painting
> > "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> > exposing them to the critic."
> >
> > Ambrose Bierce
> > **********
> >

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-30-2007   #4 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Guest


 

Re: Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security

As you have been told many times before, there is no such thing as "Ultimate
Security".
No one other than you suggests there is any such thing in Vista or any other
operating system.
It is a figment of your imagination and your suggesting there is such a
thing can only harm those that believe the myth you continually post.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:45C76F9B-1C2B-4131-8D42-81B6506583D8@microsoft.com...
>
> The below synopsis information (in part) extracted from Microsoft; should
> you desire understanding and learning more, please follow the provided
> URL.
>
> http://hive.net/Member/blogs/the_insider/
>
> It is important to remember that Microsoft (for years) has actively
> discouraged third-party applications developers from designing software
> that
> modifies the Windows kernel, because such software has been known to cause
> instability issues and lower the reliability of Windows. Rather than allow
> kernel modifications that could cause reliability and security problems
> for
> you, Microsoft has worked for many years with third-party developers, such
> as
> security software developers, to encourage the use of Microsoft-supported
> extensions that enable them to build more effective and reliable products.
>
> Some security vendors have asked Microsoft to provide instructions on how
> to
> disable Kernel Patch Protection in 64-bit versions of Windows, because
> their
> products include some features that modify the Windows kernel in
> undocumented
> and unsupported ways. Making exceptions and allowing some vendors special
> access to modify the Windows Vista kernel is unworkable. It opens the door
> wide for malicious software. For example, rootkits could be designed to
> present themselves to the operating system in the guise of a legitimate
> application that was given special access. Also, making exceptions will
> prolong the reliability problems that are caused by unsupported kernel
> modification, such as when multiple applications compete to patch the same
> kernel interfaces.
>
> In the case of security solutions, unsupported kernel modifications also
> limit your choices, by making it extremely difficult or impossible for
> multiple security solutions to co-exist reliably on a system. We want to
> work
> with security providers to make common extensions available, so that any
> security vendors can use them, and so that security software does not
> itself
> put your security and reliability at risk from malicious kernel
> modifications.
>
> Here is what we are doing to maintain the integrity and security of 64-bit
> Windows, while still addressing the needs of our security partners:
>
> Please follow the above URL for the remainder.
>
> --
> Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
>
> Posting & Painting
> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> exposing them to the critic."
>
> Ambrose Bierce
> **********
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-04-2007   #5 (permalink)
Spot
Guest


 

Re: Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security

Time to switch to decaf eh?
--
esu lanoisseforp


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> As you have been told many times before, there is no such thing as "Ultimate
> Security".
> No one other than you suggests there is any such thing in Vista or any other
> operating system.
> It is a figment of your imagination and your suggesting there is such a
> thing can only harm those that believe the myth you continually post.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:45C76F9B-1C2B-4131-8D42-81B6506583D8@microsoft.com...
> >
> > The below synopsis information (in part) extracted from Microsoft; should
> > you desire understanding and learning more, please follow the provided
> > URL.
> >
> > http://hive.net/Member/blogs/the_insider/
> >
> > It is important to remember that Microsoft (for years) has actively
> > discouraged third-party applications developers from designing software
> > that
> > modifies the Windows kernel, because such software has been known to cause
> > instability issues and lower the reliability of Windows. Rather than allow
> > kernel modifications that could cause reliability and security problems
> > for
> > you, Microsoft has worked for many years with third-party developers, such
> > as
> > security software developers, to encourage the use of Microsoft-supported
> > extensions that enable them to build more effective and reliable products.
> >
> > Some security vendors have asked Microsoft to provide instructions on how
> > to
> > disable Kernel Patch Protection in 64-bit versions of Windows, because
> > their
> > products include some features that modify the Windows kernel in
> > undocumented
> > and unsupported ways. Making exceptions and allowing some vendors special
> > access to modify the Windows Vista kernel is unworkable. It opens the door
> > wide for malicious software. For example, rootkits could be designed to
> > present themselves to the operating system in the guise of a legitimate
> > application that was given special access. Also, making exceptions will
> > prolong the reliability problems that are caused by unsupported kernel
> > modification, such as when multiple applications compete to patch the same
> > kernel interfaces.
> >
> > In the case of security solutions, unsupported kernel modifications also
> > limit your choices, by making it extremely difficult or impossible for
> > multiple security solutions to co-exist reliably on a system. We want to
> > work
> > with security providers to make common extensions available, so that any
> > security vendors can use them, and so that security software does not
> > itself
> > put your security and reliability at risk from malicious kernel
> > modifications.
> >
> > Here is what we are doing to maintain the integrity and security of 64-bit
> > Windows, while still addressing the needs of our security partners:
> >
> > Please follow the above URL for the remainder.
> >
> > --
> > Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
> >
> > Posting & Painting
> > "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> > exposing them to the critic."
> >
> > Ambrose Bierce
> > **********
> >

>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-04-2007   #6 (permalink)
Dennis Pack
Guest


 

Re: Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security

Jupiter:
I've found a computer that has almost ultimate security. I have a
Pentium MMX 166mz, 1.3GB hard drive that's never been connected to the
internet. It has Windows 95 and Office 97 installed. The only reason that a
friend let me replace the computer was that the Canon BJC600 printer finally
quit and she could no longer print her letters and cards. Have a great day.

--
Dennis Pack
XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64
Office2007
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:O8AUpuCRHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> As you have been told many times before, there is no such thing as
> "Ultimate Security".
> No one other than you suggests there is any such thing in Vista or any
> other operating system.
> It is a figment of your imagination and your suggesting there is such a
> thing can only harm those that believe the myth you continually post.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:45C76F9B-1C2B-4131-8D42-81B6506583D8@microsoft.com...
>>
>> The below synopsis information (in part) extracted from Microsoft; should
>> you desire understanding and learning more, please follow the provided
>> URL.
>>
>> http://hive.net/Member/blogs/the_insider/
>>
>> It is important to remember that Microsoft (for years) has actively
>> discouraged third-party applications developers from designing software
>> that
>> modifies the Windows kernel, because such software has been known to
>> cause
>> instability issues and lower the reliability of Windows. Rather than
>> allow
>> kernel modifications that could cause reliability and security problems
>> for
>> you, Microsoft has worked for many years with third-party developers,
>> such as
>> security software developers, to encourage the use of Microsoft-supported
>> extensions that enable them to build more effective and reliable
>> products.
>>
>> Some security vendors have asked Microsoft to provide instructions on how
>> to
>> disable Kernel Patch Protection in 64-bit versions of Windows, because
>> their
>> products include some features that modify the Windows kernel in
>> undocumented
>> and unsupported ways. Making exceptions and allowing some vendors special
>> access to modify the Windows Vista kernel is unworkable. It opens the
>> door
>> wide for malicious software. For example, rootkits could be designed to
>> present themselves to the operating system in the guise of a legitimate
>> application that was given special access. Also, making exceptions will
>> prolong the reliability problems that are caused by unsupported kernel
>> modification, such as when multiple applications compete to patch the
>> same
>> kernel interfaces.
>>
>> In the case of security solutions, unsupported kernel modifications also
>> limit your choices, by making it extremely difficult or impossible for
>> multiple security solutions to co-exist reliably on a system. We want to
>> work
>> with security providers to make common extensions available, so that any
>> security vendors can use them, and so that security software does not
>> itself
>> put your security and reliability at risk from malicious kernel
>> modifications.
>>
>> Here is what we are doing to maintain the integrity and security of
>> 64-bit
>> Windows, while still addressing the needs of our security partners:
>>
>> Please follow the above URL for the remainder.
>>
>> --
>> Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
>>
>> Posting & Painting
>> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
>> exposing them to the critic."
>>
>> Ambrose Bierce
>> **********
>>

>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-04-2007   #7 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Guest


 

Re: Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security

Add to that NEVER installing a floppy, CD etc from ANY source since even a
few from apparently reliable sources have been found with malware.


--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4B38CDA3-ADC9-448F-82B7-4E0B2C81F8AD@microsoft.com...
> Jupiter:
> I've found a computer that has almost ultimate security. I have a
> Pentium MMX 166mz, 1.3GB hard drive that's never been connected to the
> internet. It has Windows 95 and Office 97 installed. The only reason that
> a friend let me replace the computer was that the Canon BJC600 printer
> finally quit and she could no longer print her letters and cards. Have a
> great day.
>
> --
> Dennis Pack
> XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64
> Office2007


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply
Update your Vista Drivers

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vista Ultimate Security CdLsRN Vista security 4 07-12-2008 05:38 PM
vista ultimate 64 bit and have trouble with CA INTERNET SECURITY 32 bit MARK TURNER Vista security 2 07-03-2008 08:20 PM
Give me a reason to upgrade to Vista Ultimate Bill Eversole Vista General 8 04-30-2007 07:42 PM
HELP with security centre PLEASE in Vista Ultimate Inferno Vista security 0 03-29-2007 06:18 PM
Reason Why Vista Provides Ultimate Security Vista Ready Vista General 15 01-24-2007 04:22 PM


Complimentary Industry Resources

Vista Forums has joined forces with TradePub.com to offer you a new, exciting, and entirely free professional resource. Visit http://vistax64.tradepub.com today to browse our selection of complimentary Industry magazines, white papers, webinars, podcasts, and more across 34 industry sectors. No credit cards, coupons, or promo codes required. Try it today!




Vista Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized,
sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation.
"Windows Vista", the Start Orb, and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.
© Designer Media 2005-2008

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51