Vista - home network won't add vista computer

I have a home network with 4 xp pro computers. Ethernet wired, not
wireless. I just got an Acer with vista home premium. I changed it's
workgroup to match my others. Now they see it, but cannot get to any
files - the "might not have permission" box comes up. The vista computer
does not see any computers except itself.

There could be a large number of issues at play here:
1. The firewall on Windows Vista is blocking the connection. Open the
Firewall with Advanced Security admin tool and see how the firewall is
currently set up.
2. You have shared a resource that only administrators have access to. When
you connect to a Windows Vista system remotely as an administrator, you get a
filtered token, so you are not actually able to access things that only
admins have access to
3. The IP addresses do not match, or rather, are not on the same network
4. There are no resources shared and you are in ForceGuest mode.
5. You have bad karma. :-) Some days I just ascribe everything I can't
otherwise explain at the moment to that.

What exactly do you mean by "The vista machine does not see any computers
except itself?" If you go to "Network" (what used to be called Network
Neighborhood") you will only see anything if file and printer sharing is
turned on. Otherwise the computer browser service is not running.

"Paul H" wrote:

> I have a home network with 4 xp pro computers. Ethernet wired, not
> wireless. I just got an Acer with vista home premium. I changed it's
> workgroup to match my others. Now they see it, but cannot get to any
> files - the "might not have permission" box comes up. The vista computer
> does not see any computers except itself.
>
>
>

If I click start, then click Network, I only see the Vista laptop, and
"details" shows my workgroup name. If I click on it, I see "public" and
"printers". If I click printers, then "add printer", I get "You do not have
rights to perform this operation". I have only one user name on this
computer.

If I can't do it, who can? I will be the only user of this computer, so is
there any reason why I should not have administrator rights?

But back to the original question, I believe the network is working, because
my XP Pro computers can all see each other, and see the new Acer laptop, but
not it's files.

I'm nervous about reducing protection - firewalls, anti-virus, etc. I also
think I should install and use Ad-Aware and Spybot, but is it OK to do?

I thought vista was supposed to be easier than XP. I'm fairly computer
literate - started with DOS and kept current with the evolution of Windows,
but I've never been so confused. The easy transfer failed, with not
discernable explanation, and no option except to click "OK".

I will prevail. I must stay current with Microsoft technology, but this is
almost as difficult as when I moved from COBOL programming to the
"curly-brace" languages.

I'm not a complainer - I'm just frustrated. Maybe it is just bad karma...

"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:489F341A-C0D6-4AC9-BCD0-25C4838540A5@microsoft.com...
There could be a large number of issues at play here:
1. The firewall on Windows Vista is blocking the connection. Open the
Firewall with Advanced Security admin tool and see how the firewall is
currently set up.
2. You have shared a resource that only administrators have access to. When
you connect to a Windows Vista system remotely as an administrator, you get
a
filtered token, so you are not actually able to access things that only
admins have access to
3. The IP addresses do not match, or rather, are not on the same network
4. There are no resources shared and you are in ForceGuest mode.
5. You have bad karma. :-) Some days I just ascribe everything I can't
otherwise explain at the moment to that.

What exactly do you mean by "The vista machine does not see any computers
except itself?" If you go to "Network" (what used to be called Network
Neighborhood") you will only see anything if file and printer sharing is
turned on. Otherwise the computer browser service is not running.

"Paul H" wrote:

> I have a home network with 4 xp pro computers. Ethernet wired, not
> wireless. I just got an Acer with vista home premium. I changed it's
> workgroup to match my others. Now they see it, but cannot get to any
> files - the "might not have permission" box comes up. The vista computer
> does not see any computers except itself.
>
>
>

I checked - I am an administrator. If the computer thinks I'm God, why
can't I make it do what I want?

I downloaded and ran Ad-Aware. Found and removed 42 spywares. So much for
Norton's protection! Spybot found no additional problems.

Acer adds a bunch of it's own stuff, that I think just increases my
confusion. Would I be better off if I can remove it and just have Vista as
it would be after a clean install?


"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:ugPhxCaUHHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

If I click start, then click Network, I only see the Vista laptop, and
"details" shows my workgroup name. If I click on it, I see "public" and
"printers". If I click printers, then "add printer", I get "You do not have
rights to perform this operation". I have only one user name on this
computer.

If I can't do it, who can? I will be the only user of this computer, so is
there any reason why I should not have administrator rights?

But back to the original question, I believe the network is working, because
my XP Pro computers can all see each other, and see the new Acer laptop, but
not it's files.

I'm nervous about reducing protection - firewalls, anti-virus, etc. I also
think I should install and use Ad-Aware and Spybot, but is it OK to do?

I thought vista was supposed to be easier than XP. I'm fairly computer
literate - started with DOS and kept current with the evolution of Windows,
but I've never been so confused. The easy transfer failed, with not
discernable explanation, and no option except to click "OK".

I will prevail. I must stay current with Microsoft technology, but this is
almost as difficult as when I moved from COBOL programming to the
"curly-brace" languages.

I'm not a complainer - I'm just frustrated. Maybe it is just bad karma...

"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:489F341A-C0D6-4AC9-BCD0-25C4838540A5@microsoft.com...
There could be a large number of issues at play here:

1. The firewall on Windows Vista is blocking the connection. Open the
Firewall with Advanced Security admin tool and see how the firewall is
currently set up.

2. You have shared a resource that only administrators have access to. When
you connect to a Windows Vista system remotely as an administrator, you get
a filtered token, so you are not actually able to access things that only
admins have access to

3. The IP addresses do not match, or rather, are not on the same network

4. There are no resources shared and you are in ForceGuest mode.

5. You have bad karma. :-) Some days I just ascribe everything I can't
otherwise explain at the moment to that.

What exactly do you mean by "The vista machine does not see any computers
except itself?" If you go to "Network" (what used to be called Network
Neighborhood") you will only see anything if file and printer sharing is
turned on. Otherwise the computer browser service is not running.

"Paul H" wrote:

I have a home network with 4 xp pro computers. Ethernet wired, not
wireless. I just got an Acer with vista home premium. I changed it's
workgroup to match my others. Now they see it, but cannot get to any
files - the "might not have permission" box comes up. The vista computer
does not see any computers except itself.

> I checked - I am an administrator. If the computer thinks I'm God, why
> can't I make it do what I want?

Because the computer is a more powerful god! :-)

> I downloaded and ran Ad-Aware. Found and removed 42 spywares. So much for
> Norton's protection! Spybot found no additional problems.

Ouch!!! That computer probably will never be the same.

> Acer adds a bunch of it's own stuff, that I think just increases my
> confusion. Would I be better off if I can remove it and just have Vista as
> it would be after a clean install?

Yes and no. The problem is that you will probably have to add a bunch of
drivers and Acer stuff to make the machine work. On the other hand, you get
rid of all the pre-installed cruft, and given the volume of spyware you
found, you'd be better off just wiping it and starting over.

Hi Jesper

I have same problem that Paul has but my is little diffrent I have XP
machine and Vista (Bussiness edition) they both see each other but xP machnie
only see Public folder on Vista machine not entire C: drive

"Jesper" wrote:

> > I checked - I am an administrator. If the computer thinks I'm God, why
> > can't I make it do what I want?
>
> Because the computer is a more powerful god! :-)
>
> > I downloaded and ran Ad-Aware. Found and removed 42 spywares. So much for
> > Norton's protection! Spybot found no additional problems.
>
> Ouch!!! That computer probably will never be the same.
>
> > Acer adds a bunch of it's own stuff, that I think just increases my
> > confusion. Would I be better off if I can remove it and just have Vista as
> > it would be after a clean install?
>
> Yes and no. The problem is that you will probably have to add a bunch of
> drivers and Acer stuff to make the machine work. On the other hand, you get
> rid of all the pre-installed cruft, and given the volume of spyware you
> found, you'd be better off just wiping it and starting over.
>

> I have same problem that Paul has but my is little diffrent I have XP
> machine and Vista (Bussiness edition) they both see each other but xP machnie
> only see Public folder on Vista machine not entire C: drive

Shah, your problem is almost certainly that when you went through the File
sharing wizard you chose to only share those parts. That is the default. Find
a different folder you want to share and try to share it and see what happens.