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Old 10-21-2007   #31 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

David;
"complaints"?
They are observations on how Norton treats the computers of their
customers.

"...so out of touch with reality."
Really?
The "reality" is that this is the reputation Norton worked hard for
years to earn.
They can not shed it in one.
They need to prove over time before I will consider Norton again.
You have yet to give me a single reason why I should switch or suggest
anyone else move to Norton.

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"David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> stop living in the past. Your complaints are norton are so out of
> touch with reality.

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Old 10-21-2007   #32 (permalink)
David
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
Quote:

>
> You have yet to give me a single reason why I should switch or suggest
> anyone else move to Norton.
>
i wont make a dime off the sale if u buy it, so why should i bother
wasting my time? I've already mentioned several times on this NG that
it works fine on Vista despite those who have an unnatural aversion to it.
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Old 10-21-2007   #33 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

"why should i bother wasting my time?"
Good choice since you are simply incapable of it at this time.

I do not have an unnatural aversion to it.
Perhaps you were referring to others?

I tend to avoid products that have proved themselves poor for a long
time, many years in this case.
I am unsure what you see as unnatural for avoiding a product that has
proven itself dangerous to computer performance for several years.
Especially when there are other products that do the job at far less
the cost.
Norton has a long way to go if they really want to prove themselves.
One good year and an article that may be half hearted and written by
their marketing deartment is simply not enough.

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"David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> i wont make a dime off the sale if u buy it, so why should i bother
> wasting my time? I've already mentioned several times on this NG
> that it works fine on Vista despite those who have an unnatural
> aversion to it.
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Old 10-22-2007   #34 (permalink)
David
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
Quote:

> "why should i bother wasting my time?"
> Good choice since you are simply incapable of it at this time.
>
> I do not have an unnatural aversion to it.
> Perhaps you were referring to others?
>
> I tend to avoid products that have proved themselves poor for a long
> time, many years in this case.
> I am unsure what you see as unnatural for avoiding a product that has
> proven itself dangerous to computer performance for several years.
> Especially when there are other products that do the job at far less
> the cost.
> Norton has a long way to go if they really want to prove themselves.
> One good year and an article that may be half hearted and written by
> their marketing deartment is simply not enough.
>
Norton has ALREADY proved themselves with their last 2 releases. Your
naysaying doesn't change the facts that NIS works well on Vista. Better
than Vista itself, which hardly has proved itself. IF it wasnt for
vista being rammed down everyone's throat with new pc sales, Vista sales
would be less than tepid. Vista is an OS that should never been
released, once they stripped out numerous promised features.

Dave
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Old 10-22-2007   #35 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

"Vista is an OS that should never been"
Your opinion, nothing more.
Fortunately the rest of us have the choice that would deny since you
feel "should never been released"
Windows Vista works very well for me on two older computers and
countless others as well.
But then you are attempting to change the topic of this thread.

"...their last 2 releases."
Reports from users I have seen disagree.
Perhaps only the last year is OK, but to soon to tell.
In either case, 2 years after so many ignoring the needs of my
computers is vastly insufficient to prove themselves worthy for my
needs or anyone I influence.
Symantec worked hard to earn this and they will have to work hard to
earn otherwise.
Symantec has done to little to dispute that, other than that article
written more from a marketing perspective and less from technical.

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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Norton has ALREADY proved themselves with their last 2 releases.
> Your naysaying doesn't change the facts that NIS works well on
> Vista. Better than Vista itself, which hardly has proved itself.
> IF it wasnt for vista being rammed down everyone's throat with new
> pc sales, Vista sales would be less than tepid. Vista is an OS that
> should never been released, once they stripped out numerous promised
> features.
>
> Dave
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Old 10-22-2007   #36 (permalink)
David
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
Quote:

> "Vista is an OS that should never been"
> Your opinion, nothing more.
> Fortunately the rest of us have the choice that would deny since you
> feel "should never been released"
> Windows Vista works very well for me on two older computers and
> countless others as well.
> But then you are attempting to change the topic of this thread.
>
> "...their last 2 releases."
> Reports from users I have seen disagree.
> Perhaps only the last year is OK, but to soon to tell.
> In either case, 2 years after so many ignoring the needs of my
> computers is vastly insufficient to prove themselves worthy for my
> needs or anyone I influence.
> Symantec worked hard to earn this and they will have to work hard to
> earn otherwise.
> Symantec has done to little to dispute that, other than that article
> written more from a marketing perspective and less from technical.
>
BS,as usual. the so called "users" that you cite are most likely just
like you--ie they tried a norton product years ago and now go on sites
to warn people away from the current version. give it a rest. you are
a BS artist of grand proportions. your whole life seems wrapped up in
trying to force your BS onto unsuspecting newbies. give it a rest for a
few weeks, eh? you post way too often. take a vacation.

Dave
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Old 10-22-2007   #37 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

Your false assumptions go the route of many assumptions WRONG.

I used Norton for several years on multiple computers, various Norton
products.
Not "a norton product" as you are so quick to ASSUME, but several.
I removed the last of Norton about two years ago.
In every case, switching from Norton resulted in better performance.
You are unable to dispute that FACT.

"BS,as usual"
Suggests your own inability to accept a differing opinion.
I am also aware of many others that share similar experiences and they
have wide ranges of computing experience.
So another assumption of yours "likely just like you" is also FALSE.

"force your BS onto unsuspecting newbies."
Not at all, that is real world long term experience.
"unsuspecting newbies" like everyone else are free to do what they
determine best with the information available.
I certainly do NOT "force" anything on anyone.
Only you know why you think anyone is forced to anything.

"you post way too often. take a vacation"
Irrelevant and NOT for you to say.
If you are unable to handle an opinion that differs from yours,
perhaps you need to heed your own advice.

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> BS,as usual. the so called "users" that you cite are most likely
> just like you--ie they tried a norton product years ago and now go
> on sites to warn people away from the current version. give it a
> rest. you are a BS artist of grand proportions. your whole life
> seems wrapped up in trying to force your BS onto unsuspecting
> newbies. give it a rest for a few weeks, eh? you post way too
> often. take a vacation.
>
> Dave
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Old 10-22-2007   #38 (permalink)
David
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

LOL! your post brings to mind the age old saying that has something to
do with kettles and pots.
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Old 11-12-2007   #39 (permalink)
Rabbit
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

On a Mac, it definitely has been nothing but trouble and should be banned.
Which goes back a very long time, when it went from being Peter Norton to
Symantec probably.

However, the only time I had trouble with it and Vista was actually
uninstalling - that was impossible it seemed!

But... even AVG Suite can be a hog, too.

So just for fun, I'm putting Norton NIS2008 on the drive running Business
x64, and leave AVG as is on Home Premium x64, and then see. Both are very
similarly configured (I use Business to test a program on and as backup, and
Home Premium for daily use) then see if or how NIS2008 works - at least for
me.

The system is about a year old, Xeon 5130s, 4 x 500GB drives and 6GB RAM.

"David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> John Barnett MVP wrote:
Quote:

>> As a Journalist I am regularly sent copies of Norton products. I am not
>> biased neither have I had a bad experience. Norton is simply a system
>> hogger and I will repeat what I said in my original post 'Norton causes
>> more problems than it solves.' With Windows 95/98/ME Norton products were
>> great. Since XP they have, sadly, gone down hill.
>>
> such a hog that on the 2 vista machines i run it on it is totally
> unnoticeable. it doesn't slow down start up, nor slow down anything
> during my use of the machine. I've run both machines with no virus
> scanner, with mcafee, AVG, and NIS2007. running with NO virus scanner and
> with NIS2007 I've never seen any difference in response. I can't say that
> about NIS2007 on XP-now THAT is a bad combo. I thought AVG was a joke,
> considering how some people here rave about it. I got rid of it as soon
> as I was able to get NIS2007 on sale at Costco.
>
> Dave
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Old 11-13-2007   #40 (permalink)
James Matthews
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2007

i use kaspersky and i like it


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"Rabbit" <white.rabbit@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> On a Mac, it definitely has been nothing but trouble and should be banned.
> Which goes back a very long time, when it went from being Peter Norton to
> Symantec probably.
>
> However, the only time I had trouble with it and Vista was actually
> uninstalling - that was impossible it seemed!
>
> But... even AVG Suite can be a hog, too.
>
> So just for fun, I'm putting Norton NIS2008 on the drive running Business
> x64, and leave AVG as is on Home Premium x64, and then see. Both are very
> similarly configured (I use Business to test a program on and as backup,
> and Home Premium for daily use) then see if or how NIS2008 works - at
> least for me.
>
> The system is about a year old, Xeon 5130s, 4 x 500GB drives and 6GB RAM.
>
> "David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:LOudnaH4O6IHLXDbnZ2dnUVZ_vihnZ2d@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
Quote:

>>> As a Journalist I am regularly sent copies of Norton products. I am not
>>> biased neither have I had a bad experience. Norton is simply a system
>>> hogger and I will repeat what I said in my original post 'Norton causes
>>> more problems than it solves.' With Windows 95/98/ME Norton products
>>> were great. Since XP they have, sadly, gone down hill.
>>>
>> such a hog that on the 2 vista machines i run it on it is totally
>> unnoticeable. it doesn't slow down start up, nor slow down anything
>> during my use of the machine. I've run both machines with no virus
>> scanner, with mcafee, AVG, and NIS2007. running with NO virus scanner
>> and with NIS2007 I've never seen any difference in response. I can't say
>> that about NIS2007 on XP-now THAT is a bad combo. I thought AVG was a
>> joke, considering how some people here rave about it. I got rid of it as
>> soon as I was able to get NIS2007 on sale at Costco.
>>
>> Dave
>
>
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