Workaround for XP/Vista Sys. Restore problems in dual boot?

I know that Vista's restore points are all wiped when I boot back into XP
and I do not want to even try Bitlocker.
Would hiding the Vista drive in XP using TweakUI work or not?
Any other suggestions?

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD

In message <21358E9C-DB06-45B8-9276-3B4373E1D510@microsoft.com> "Peter"
<Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I know that Vista's restore points are all wiped when I boot back into XP

It's true...

>and I do not want to even try Bitlocker.

Why not?

>Would hiding the Vista drive in XP using TweakUI work or not?

Nope.

>Any other suggestions?

Bitlocker, physically separate hard drives, removing the Vista drive
when in XP. Another option that might work would be to put them on
different controllers, and disable the appropriate controller in XP.
--
Insert something clever here.

Thanks. Why not Bitlocker? Too much fiddling around needed without that
magic chip.
Surely Microsoft could dream up a solution - one of these days?

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <21358E9C-DB06-45B8-9276-3B4373E1D510@microsoft.com> "Peter"
> <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I know that Vista's restore points are all wiped when I boot back into XP
>
> It's true...
>
>>and I do not want to even try Bitlocker.
>
> Why not?
>
>>Would hiding the Vista drive in XP using TweakUI work or not?
>
> Nope.
>
>>Any other suggestions?
>
> Bitlocker, physically separate hard drives, removing the Vista drive
> when in XP. Another option that might work would be to put them on
> different controllers, and disable the appropriate controller in XP.
> --
> Insert something clever here.

"Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
news:%23sbt8FDYHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thanks. Why not Bitlocker? Too much fiddling around needed without that
> magic chip.
> Surely Microsoft could dream up a solution - one of these days?

don't hold your breath.
there is no technical reason why MS broke SR on a dual boot machine, they
simply just chose to
iow, just an arm-twisting tactic to force you away from XP and to Vista

Great for those of us who want both systems!

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
> news:%23sbt8FDYHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks. Why not Bitlocker? Too much fiddling around needed without that
>> magic chip.
>> Surely Microsoft could dream up a solution - one of these days?
>
> don't hold your breath.
> there is no technical reason why MS broke SR on a dual boot machine, they
> simply just chose to
> iow, just an arm-twisting tactic to force you away from XP and to Vista
>

Peter:
I'm dual booting using BitLocker without any additional work, I just
leave the USB drive plugged in all the time. There is another alternative,
use a third party boot manager, but I haven't tried it. Have a great day.

--
Dennis Pack
XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64
Office2007
"Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
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> Great for those of us who want both systems!
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
>
> "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:OK7lLRDYHHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
>> news:%23sbt8FDYHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks. Why not Bitlocker? Too much fiddling around needed without
>>> that magic chip.
>>> Surely Microsoft could dream up a solution - one of these days?
>>
>> don't hold your breath.
>> there is no technical reason why MS broke SR on a dual boot machine, they
>> simply just chose to
>> iow, just an arm-twisting tactic to force you away from XP and to Vista
>>
>
>

Strange that XP would do that especially when I've got it monitoring only
its own partition for SR purposes out of the 8 or so that I have.
I only found out by accident about this when I found Vista still trying to
SR after 24 hours!

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
news:OK7lLRDYHHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
> news:%23sbt8FDYHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks. Why not Bitlocker? Too much fiddling around needed without that
>> magic chip.
>> Surely Microsoft could dream up a solution - one of these days?
>
> don't hold your breath.
> there is no technical reason why MS broke SR on a dual boot machine, they
> simply just chose to
> iow, just an arm-twisting tactic to force you away from XP and to Vista
>

Making my USB as the first boot wont screw up getting into my XP partition I
trust?

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
news:%23NPpVsDYHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Strange that XP would do that especially when I've got it monitoring only
> its own partition for SR purposes out of the 8 or so that I have.
> I only found out by accident about this when I found Vista still trying to
> SR after 24 hours!
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
>
> "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:OK7lLRDYHHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
>> news:%23sbt8FDYHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks. Why not Bitlocker? Too much fiddling around needed without
>>> that magic chip.
>>> Surely Microsoft could dream up a solution - one of these days?
>>
>> don't hold your breath.
>> there is no technical reason why MS broke SR on a dual boot machine, they
>> simply just chose to
>> iow, just an arm-twisting tactic to force you away from XP and to Vista
>>
>
>

In article <#NgqakEYHHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, in the
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, <"Peter"
<ex-brit AT rogers DOT com>> says...

> Making my USB as the first boot wont screw up getting into my XP partition I
> trust?
>

With Bitlocker you don't want to boot from the USB device, you
simply need to be able to read from it during the boot process.
--
Paul Adare
MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
http://www.identit.ca
"The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm,
has survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of
modern computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that
is not clearly labeled as such."
Ray Shea

I see. BIOS is able to boot to USB devices (I guess that means "see") but I
did notice that I can't actually configure a USB device as the actual boot
object.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Paul Adare" <padare@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> In article <#NgqakEYHHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, in the
> microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, <"Peter"
> <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com>> says...
>
>> Making my USB as the first boot wont screw up getting into my XP
>> partition I
>> trust?
>>
>
> With Bitlocker you don't want to boot from the USB device, you
> simply need to be able to read from it during the boot process.
> --
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
> http://www.identit.ca
> "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm,
> has survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of
> modern computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that
> is not clearly labeled as such."
> Ray Shea