Bitlocker wont turn on

I was hoping to avoid all this hassle as I don't have a TPM equipped PC but
I don't like XP wiping all my Vista restore points.
So I bit the bullet, plugged in my USB flash drive and started up the
Bitlocker procedures as described in MSFT Technet (
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa905065.aspx ) and got
right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker Drive
Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check starts that there
isn't enough space. There's loads of space. Image of errors at
Photobuicket here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
The only thing I haven't yet done is set the boot to USB first in my BIOS.
That was going to be my next step.

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Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD

> I was hoping to avoid all this hassle as I don't have a TPM equipped PC but
> I don't like XP wiping all my Vista restore points.
> So I bit the bullet, plugged in my USB flash drive and started up the
> Bitlocker procedures as described in MSFT Technet (
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa905065.aspx ) and got
> right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker Drive
> Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check starts that there
> isn't enough space. There's loads of space. Image of errors at
> Photobuicket here:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
> I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
> The only thing I haven't yet done is set the boot to USB first in my BIOS.
> That was going to be my next step.

Is M: your boot volume? Bitlocker is designed to protect your boot volume
only on Windows Vista, although you can get around that with the command-line
tool (manage-bde.wsf). On Longhorn Server you can protect non-boot volumes as
well.

M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
I have 2 hard drives.
1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup
I have 2 USB drives -
1 I: Ativa U3 2gb flash
2 V: Maxtor 1-Touch ll 200gb
It allowed me to use either for key storage in the setup but then gave that
error.
--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> I was hoping to avoid all this hassle as I don't have a TPM equipped PC
>> but
>> I don't like XP wiping all my Vista restore points.
>> So I bit the bullet, plugged in my USB flash drive and started up the
>> Bitlocker procedures as described in MSFT Technet (
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa905065.aspx ) and got
>> right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker Drive
>> Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check starts that
>> there
>> isn't enough space. There's loads of space. Image of errors at
>> Photobuicket here:
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
>> I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
>> The only thing I haven't yet done is set the boot to USB first in my
>> BIOS.
>> That was going to be my next step.
>
> Is M: your boot volume? Bitlocker is designed to protect your boot volume
> only on Windows Vista, although you can get around that with the
> command-line
> tool (manage-bde.wsf). On Longhorn Server you can protect non-boot volumes
> as
> well.

P.S. I ommitted SATA from the HDD descr. but they aren't RAID setup.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> I was hoping to avoid all this hassle as I don't have a TPM equipped PC
>> but
>> I don't like XP wiping all my Vista restore points.
>> So I bit the bullet, plugged in my USB flash drive and started up the
>> Bitlocker procedures as described in MSFT Technet (
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa905065.aspx ) and got
>> right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker Drive
>> Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check starts that
>> there
>> isn't enough space. There's loads of space. Image of errors at
>> Photobuicket here:
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
>> I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
>> The only thing I haven't yet done is set the boot to USB first in my
>> BIOS.
>> That was going to be my next step.
>
> Is M: your boot volume? Bitlocker is designed to protect your boot volume
> only on Windows Vista, although you can get around that with the
> command-line
> tool (manage-bde.wsf). On Longhorn Server you can protect non-boot volumes
> as
> well.

Peter wrote:
> M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
> I have 2 hard drives.
> 1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
> 2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup

Bottom line, C: is your "system" volume (always; that's where is \BootMgr)
and M: is your "boot" volume (when you run Vista on it.)
Beware that's MS' terminology, you may encounter the reverse elsewhere. Also
beware that the "boot volume" is known as the content of the "%SystemDrive%"
environement variable...


>>> got right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker
>>> Drive Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check
>>> starts that there isn't enough space. There's loads of space.
>>> Image of errors at Photobuicket here:
>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
>>> I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M

How much space on C: ? Doc tells you are required to have 50 MB free on the
system volume (in addition to all other requirements) to be able to use
BitLocker.


Antoine

C: Has 53.6gb available out of 79gb.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Antoine Leca" <root@localhost.invalid> wrote in message
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> Peter wrote:
>> M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
>> I have 2 hard drives.
>> 1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
>> 2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup
>
> Bottom line, C: is your "system" volume (always; that's where is \BootMgr)
> and M: is your "boot" volume (when you run Vista on it.)
> Beware that's MS' terminology, you may encounter the reverse elsewhere.
> Also
> beware that the "boot volume" is known as the content of the
> "%SystemDrive%"
> environement variable...
>
>
>>>> got right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker
>>>> Drive Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check
>>>> starts that there isn't enough space. There's loads of space.
>>>> Image of errors at Photobuicket here:
>>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
>>>> I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
>
> How much space on C: ? Doc tells you are required to have 50 MB free on
> the
> system volume (in addition to all other requirements) to be able to use
> BitLocker.
>
>
> Antoine
>

I just noticed:

a.. A BIOS setting to boot first from the hard drive, not the USB or CD
drives.
For any test that includes the USB flash drive, your BIOS must be configured
to read and write to a USB flash drive during startup.

Boot first from a hard drive...which hard drive..that could cause problems
haveing 2 HDD's ??




--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Antoine Leca" <root@localhost.invalid> wrote in message
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> Peter wrote:
>> M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
>> I have 2 hard drives.
>> 1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
>> 2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup
>
> Bottom line, C: is your "system" volume (always; that's where is \BootMgr)
> and M: is your "boot" volume (when you run Vista on it.)
> Beware that's MS' terminology, you may encounter the reverse elsewhere.
> Also
> beware that the "boot volume" is known as the content of the
> "%SystemDrive%"
> environement variable...
>
>
>>>> got right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker
>>>> Drive Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check
>>>> starts that there isn't enough space. There's loads of space.
>>>> Image of errors at Photobuicket here:
>>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
>>>> I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
>
> How much space on C: ? Doc tells you are required to have 50 MB free on
> the
> system volume (in addition to all other requirements) to be able to use
> BitLocker.
>
>
> Antoine
>

It makes no dofference putting my 1st HD as first boot...same problem.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD

"Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
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> C: Has 53.6gb available out of 79gb.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
>
> "Antoine Leca" <root@localhost.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uJX$AKLYHHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Peter wrote:
>>> M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
>>> I have 2 hard drives.
>>> 1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
>>> 2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup
>>
>> Bottom line, C: is your "system" volume (always; that's where is
>> \BootMgr)
>> and M: is your "boot" volume (when you run Vista on it.)
>> Beware that's MS' terminology, you may encounter the reverse elsewhere.
>> Also
>> beware that the "boot volume" is known as the content of the
>> "%SystemDrive%"
>> environement variable...
>>
>>
>>>>> got right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker
>>>>> Drive Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check
>>>>> starts that there isn't enough space. There's loads of space.
>>>>> Image of errors at Photobuicket here:
>>>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Purrint001.jpg
>>>>> I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
>>
>> How much space on C: ? Doc tells you are required to have 50 MB free on
>> the
>> system volume (in addition to all other requirements) to be able to use
>> BitLocker.
>>
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>
>

> M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
> I have 2 hard drives.
> 1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
> 2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup
> I have 2 USB drives -
> 1 I: Ativa U3 2gb flash
> 2 V: Maxtor 1-Touch ll 200gb
> It allowed me to use either for key storage in the setup but then gave that
> error.

Honestly, I don't know how you keep any of that straight. That's the most
complicated partitioning scheme I've seen for a long time. I would try to
remove some of the complexity, a little bit at a time. Start out by removing
the external drives and see what happens.

You also need to look at what your system partition is, the one with the
boot manager. It seems like it is C:, but it is unclear.

BitLocker really was not designed for that complicated a deployment.

The boot manager is def. C: - I think I'll give up on this one and just let
XP continue eating my Vista SR.
Yes the setup is strange...but mostly consists of 2 XPs and 1 Vista...others
are all for backups and storage etc. Not as bad as it seems, although if I
tell you that I also have 4 DVD burners.....LOL....forget it!
Thanks for all your help.
I fired off a note to Microsoft asking if they have ever thought of a patch
for XP to stop this carnivorous behaviour....;-)
I'll probably get the usual non-committal reply from somewhere east of the
Urals.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
>> I have 2 hard drives.
>> 1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
>> 2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup
>> I have 2 USB drives -
>> 1 I: Ativa U3 2gb flash
>> 2 V: Maxtor 1-Touch ll 200gb
>> It allowed me to use either for key storage in the setup but then gave
>> that
>> error.
>
> Honestly, I don't know how you keep any of that straight. That's the most
> complicated partitioning scheme I've seen for a long time. I would try to
> remove some of the complexity, a little bit at a time. Start out by
> removing
> the external drives and see what happens.
>
> You also need to look at what your system partition is, the one with the
> boot manager. It seems like it is C:, but it is unclear.
>
> BitLocker really was not designed for that complicated a deployment.