Vista - NTFS Security Permissions (HOW TO RESET?)

Is there a way to reset all the ntfs permissions back to their defaults?

I have performed an Upgrade installation and most of my old files and
settings are hidden under folders to which as logged in as the administrator
I do not have access (access denied)



So starting outlook for example or trying to view my pictures comes back
with errors of you do not have permission etc etc etc

Any Ideas?

Regards

Mike

We have found that logging into the original domain admin ID or re-enabling
the local administrator account and using that gets past the strange new
limitations that have been placed on members of the local 'administrators'
group.

This seems to be defective, overzealous behavior caused by developers under
tremendous pressure to 'secure' an otherwise insecure OS.

Note that also even the core default admin IDs and administrators groups
officially have incomplete rights to the root folder of the C: partition.
Full rights belong only to 'Trusted Installer', an internal ID and not a
usable group.

We have experienced serious side-effects as user test files are displaced
during installations & upgrades that involve any pre-existing data. That will
never do for the eventual production release.

"Mike (Bryett Enterprise LTD)" wrote:

> Is there a way to reset all the ntfs permissions back to their defaults?
>
> I have performed an Upgrade installation and most of my old files and
> settings are hidden under folders to which as logged in as the administrator
> I do not have access (access denied)
>
> So starting outlook for example or trying to view my pictures comes back
> with errors of you do not have permission etc etc etc
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Regards
>
> Mike

We have found that logging into the original domain admin ID or re-enabling
the local administrator account and using that gets past the strange new
limitations that have been placed on members of the local 'administrators'
group.

This seems to be defective, overzealous behavior caused by developers under
tremendous pressure to 'secure' an otherwise insecure OS.

Note that also even the core default admin IDs and administrators groups
officially have incomplete rights to the root folder of the C: partition.
Full rights belong only to 'Trusted Installer', an internal ID and not a
usable group.

We have experienced serious side-effects as user test files are displaced
during installations & upgrades that involve any pre-existing data. That will
never do for the eventual production release.

"Mike (Bryett Enterprise LTD)" wrote:

> Is there a way to reset all the ntfs permissions back to their defaults?
>
> I have performed an Upgrade installation and most of my old files and
> settings are hidden under folders to which as logged in as the administrator
> I do not have access (access denied)
>
> So starting outlook for example or trying to view my pictures comes back
> with errors of you do not have permission etc etc etc
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Regards
>
> Mike

"Mike (Bryett Enterprise LTD)" wrote:

> Is there a way to reset all the ntfs permissions back to their defaults?
>
> I have performed an Upgrade installation and most of my old files and
> settings are hidden under folders to which as logged in as the administrator
> I do not have access (access denied)
>
> So starting outlook for example or trying to view my pictures comes back
> with errors of you do not have permission etc etc etc
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Regards
>
> Mike

It is quite possible that the issue you are experiencing is the due to
those storage areas having been private to their accounts in the
prior XP build. This is the same issue as has alway existed when
reinstalling when some storage only had NTFS grants to local
accounts that post-reinstall no longer exist; and the solution is the
same, namely taking ownership of the storage area while logged
in as an admin if needed and then changing the permissions.

Note that this is NOT resetting permissions to install defaults,
which would not in this case (if this is the case) cause a change.

"Mike (Bryett Enterprise LTD)"
<MikeBryettEnterpriseLTD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9FC2186C-3650-4AF7-98D1-A885E4CACCC6@microsoft.com...
> Is there a way to reset all the ntfs permissions back to their defaults?
>
> I have performed an Upgrade installation and most of my old files and
> settings are hidden under folders to which as logged in as the
> administrator
> I do not have access (access denied)
>
> So starting outlook for example or trying to view my pictures comes back
> with errors of you do not have permission etc etc etc
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Regards
>
> Mike

Roger

Yes I believe you are correct as that seems to be the case - I have been
taking ownership as and when i run into problems - its just VERY tedious
thats all and I'm worried I'm opening up more security risks by making my
files nearly open to everyone. Im not quite sure how much permission
everything needs you see. I've seen in other posts about using secedit to
re-apply default security templates but I dont think I have the syntax right
as it doesnt appear to be changing much.

I'd love there to be some utility once I have ownership of all files on my
computer to resest the permissions. Anyone know of anything???

In anycase when RC1 comes out I'm going to try a clean install from a fully
formatted Hard Drive as the NTFS permissions are all over the place at the
mo.

In anycase the few probs I was having seem to be solved by taking ownership
etc - its just taken me two long laborious days to do that, phew!!!!!!!

Many thanks for everyones comments

Regards

Mike
"Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
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> It is quite possible that the issue you are experiencing is the due to
> those storage areas having been private to their accounts in the
> prior XP build. This is the same issue as has alway existed when
> reinstalling when some storage only had NTFS grants to local
> accounts that post-reinstall no longer exist; and the solution is the
> same, namely taking ownership of the storage area while logged
> in as an admin if needed and then changing the permissions.
>
> Note that this is NOT resetting permissions to install defaults,
> which would not in this case (if this is the case) cause a change.
>
> "Mike (Bryett Enterprise LTD)"
> <MikeBryettEnterpriseLTD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9FC2186C-3650-4AF7-98D1-A885E4CACCC6@microsoft.com...
>> Is there a way to reset all the ntfs permissions back to their defaults?
>>
>> I have performed an Upgrade installation and most of my old files and
>> settings are hidden under folders to which as logged in as the
>> administrator
>> I do not have access (access denied)
>>
>> So starting outlook for example or trying to view my pictures comes back
>> with errors of you do not have permission etc etc etc
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mike
>
>