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Old 03-17-2007   #1 (permalink)
Danny Mc?
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Disable Permission

I bought a new computer with Vista pre-loaded and I am not digging this whole
permission thing. I really enjoyed the Win2000 and then WinXP using Classic
interface. How do I:

1) Disable Vista from asking permission all the time and work just like I
do with WinXP?
or
2) Trade in my Vista Business license for an XP Pro license?

Thanks.
Old 03-17-2007   #2 (permalink)
Tom
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Re: Disable Permission

I had a similar problem and this is how I solved it.
1. Click Start
2. Control Panel
3. User Accounts
4. Make changes to your User Account
5.Turn User Account control on or off
6. Uncheck the box...Use User account control (UAC) to help protect your
computer.
7. Click OK button

Thats it. Now you have control of your computer.

NEXT... to keep from logging in every time you turn on the computer,

Still in control panel...
1. Click Parental Controls
2. At the computer Administrator icon click to remove password or (no
password).

I have been reprimanded twice on 2 newsgroups for giving out this info.
Let me know if this fixes your problem.
Tom

P.S. My wife bought an HP with Vista and she was ready to toss it into the
garbage can until I disabled the permissions thingy. Now she loves it. She
also had an XP before.


Old 03-18-2007   #3 (permalink)
Jimmy Brush
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Re: Disable Permission

> Thats it. Now you have control of your computer.

Actually, this is giving away the control of your computer to the programs
that run on your computer.

UAC notifies you when a program requests complete control over your computer
and ASKS YOU whether or not it can run.

When you give up this control, ALL PROGRAMS run with complete control over
your computer.

Are the prompts sometimes annoying? Yes.

Do they give you more control over your computer? Yes!

How?

With UAC on, the *ONLY WAY* a program can get complete control over your
computer is IF YOU ALLOW IT via a UAC prompt.

Programs that DO NOT ask you for permission CANNOT do really nasty things to
your computer.

> I have been reprimanded twice on 2 newsgroups for giving out this info.


This is not a reprimand.


--
- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

Old 03-18-2007   #4 (permalink)
Guest


 

Re: Disable Permission

Why are you so upset at people not wanting a crippled computer. If you want
restricted rights log on as a standard user. If you want admin rights log on
as an admin. If you want to use UAC, fine. But why scream at others in an
hysterical tone. UAC is a doorway through security not extra security.

Virtualisation has been in at least last two versions of windows.

"Jimmy Brush" <JimmyBrush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:824D1301-301E-44BA-A708-64F9A1BE4A2A@microsoft.com...
>> Thats it. Now you have control of your computer.

>
> Actually, this is giving away the control of your computer to the programs
> that run on your computer.
>
> UAC notifies you when a program requests complete control over your
> computer and ASKS YOU whether or not it can run.
>
> When you give up this control, ALL PROGRAMS run with complete control over
> your computer.
>
> Are the prompts sometimes annoying? Yes.
>
> Do they give you more control over your computer? Yes!
>
> How?
>
> With UAC on, the *ONLY WAY* a program can get complete control over your
> computer is IF YOU ALLOW IT via a UAC prompt.
>
> Programs that DO NOT ask you for permission CANNOT do really nasty things
> to your computer.
>
>> I have been reprimanded twice on 2 newsgroups for giving out this info.

>
> This is not a reprimand.
>
>
> --
> - JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
> Windows Vista Support Faq
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/


Old 03-18-2007   #5 (permalink)
Jimmy Brush
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Re: Disable Permission

> Why are you so upset at people not wanting a crippled computer.

I am not upset.

> If you want restricted rights log on as a standard user. If you want admin
> rights log on as an admin. If you want to use UAC, fine.


I agree.

> But why scream at others in an hysterical tone.


I'm not. I'm simply trying to make sure people understand what UAC does
before they turn it off

> UAC is a doorway through security not extra security.


What exactly does that mean?

> Virtualisation has been in at least last two versions of windows.


But for different reasons.


--
- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

Old 03-19-2007   #6 (permalink)
Guest


 

Re: Disable Permission

UAC is about letting people run as an admin.

Standard users should not be prompted for a admin password (start handing
them about and everyone will end up with admin access). If this truely is
needed then Runas suffices.

If one wants to run as an Admin then probably one actually does want to run
as an admin.

I don't object to it.

But you are advocating in its favour. Perhaps your replies should lists pros
and cons so people can see if it meets their needs or not. Else your
reccommendations are strident as it doesn't include any assessment of the
person's needs. Surely not everyone should use UAC?

I note that Run As Restricted (where all writes are disallowed) has been
removed from the run dialog.


"Jimmy Brush" <JimmyBrush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B8DE64A2-8250-42F0-92CC-7F2DFE2CE2D8@microsoft.com...
>> Why are you so upset at people not wanting a crippled computer.

>
> I am not upset.
>
>> If you want restricted rights log on as a standard user. If you want
>> admin rights log on as an admin. If you want to use UAC, fine.

>
> I agree.
>
>> But why scream at others in an hysterical tone.

>
> I'm not. I'm simply trying to make sure people understand what UAC does
> before they turn it off
>
>> UAC is a doorway through security not extra security.

>
> What exactly does that mean?
>
>> Virtualisation has been in at least last two versions of windows.

>
> But for different reasons.
>
>
> --
> - JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
> Windows Vista Support Faq
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/


Old 03-19-2007   #7 (permalink)
Danny Mc?
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Re: Disable Permission

Thanks Tom and Jimmy.

The permission thing is very very annoying. Me having to click buttons 2
and 3 times to do one task is a poor substitute for security.

I have been operating in the Win95/Win98/Win2000/WinXP environments for a
long long time. The OS is supposed to simplify things not make it more
complicated! BTW, when Vista is setting up for the first time the one thing
it pats itself on back for is that it is supposed to simplify things. I
think not.

I'm going to follow Tom's instructions and roll the dice. Nothing like
living on the edge. Worse case there is always FDISK.

Thanks
Danny Mc?

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

> > Thats it. Now you have control of your computer.

>
> Actually, this is giving away the control of your computer to the programs
> that run on your computer.
>
> UAC notifies you when a program requests complete control over your computer
> and ASKS YOU whether or not it can run.
>
> When you give up this control, ALL PROGRAMS run with complete control over
> your computer.
>
> Are the prompts sometimes annoying? Yes.
>
> Do they give you more control over your computer? Yes!
>
> How?
>
> With UAC on, the *ONLY WAY* a program can get complete control over your
> computer is IF YOU ALLOW IT via a UAC prompt.
>
> Programs that DO NOT ask you for permission CANNOT do really nasty things to
> your computer.
>
> > I have been reprimanded twice on 2 newsgroups for giving out this info.

>
> This is not a reprimand.
>
>
> --
> - JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
> Windows Vista Support Faq
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>
>

Old 03-19-2007   #8 (permalink)
Danny Mc?
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Re: Disable Permission

He did not come off as upset to me.

"." wrote:

> Why are you so upset at people not wanting a crippled computer. If you want


Old 03-19-2007   #9 (permalink)
Tom
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Re: Disable Permission

He did not come off as upset to me either. He was merely explaining his
position and I thank him for his input.
Tom


Old 03-19-2007   #10 (permalink)
jmc777
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Re: Disable Permission

"Danny Mc?" wrote:

> I have been operating in the Win95/Win98/Win2000/WinXP environments for a
> long long time. The OS is supposed to simplify things not make it more
> complicated! BTW, when Vista is setting up for the first time the one thing
> it pats itself on back for is that it is supposed to simplify things. I
> think not.



Most people are complaining because they're trying to run programs designed
for previous version of Windows (which were given free reign to write to the
file system and registry) on Vista. You shouldn't see any UAC prompts* if the
software's written correctly.

* providing the program in question isn't trying to make system-wide changes.
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