Folder gives me no permissions???

Hi

I have a very serious problem that for the life of me I cannot figure out
how to fix.

I have a 65gig folder that will not let me have permissions to open it or
anything else. I honestly have no clue how it got this way (the
permissions). I do have a private network. I cannot just reformat the
drive as I need the files that are inside. I have tried taking control of
the permissions, but it is not working. Can anyone please tell me how to
get my permissions back so that I can get on with my work? I have spent
three days doing everything I can offered in the Help section, but it is not
giving me permissions. Even when logged in as Administrator it will not let
me in the frolder. It tells me I do not have permission...I am the only one
that uses this computer. Im running Vista Ultimate Boxed.


Thank you in advance

TJ

> I have a 65gig folder that will not let me have permissions to open it or
> anything else. I honestly have no clue how it got this way (the
> permissions). I do have a private network. I cannot just reformat the
> drive as I need the files that are inside. I have tried taking control of
> the permissions, but it is not working. Can anyone please tell me how to
> get my permissions back so that I can get on with my work? I have spent
> three days doing everything I can offered in the Help section, but it is not
> giving me permissions. Even when logged in as Administrator it will not let
> me in the frolder. It tells me I do not have permission...I am the only one
> that uses this computer. Im running Vista Ultimate Boxed.

1. Log on as an Administrator
2. Right-click the folder and select Properties
3. Click the Security tab
4. Click Advanced
5. Click the Owner tab
6. Click the Edit... button. It should have a shield on it
7. Accept the elevation prompt
8. Select yourself in the "Change owner to:" dialog. It should be one of the
options, if it is not, browse to it using the "Other users or groups..."
button
9. Check the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox
10. Click OK
11. Click Yes, then OK three times
12. Right-click the folder
13. Select Properties
14. Click the Security tab
15. Click Advanced...
16. Click Edit...
17. Click Add...
18. Type the user you want to add and click OK. It will probably be you
19. Select the checkboxes for the permissions you wish to have. Full control
is obviously everything.
20. Click OK
21. Check the "Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all
descendands with inheritable permissions from this object" checkbox
22. Click OK three times.

That's all there is to it.

Thank you. I will try this right now. I did do all the steps 1-10 of what
you wrote & that must be where I messed up as I did not complete the steps
11 - 22.

I thank you so very much for typing all this out. Very much appreciated!!

I'll let you know how it goes! ;o)

TJ


> 1. Log on as an Administrator
> 2. Right-click the folder and select Properties
> 3. Click the Security tab
> 4. Click Advanced
> 5. Click the Owner tab
> 6. Click the Edit... button. It should have a shield on it
> 7. Accept the elevation prompt
> 8. Select yourself in the "Change owner to:" dialog. It should be one of
> the
> options, if it is not, browse to it using the "Other users or groups..."
> button
> 9. Check the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox
> 10. Click OK
> 11. Click Yes, then OK three times
> 12. Right-click the folder
> 13. Select Properties
> 14. Click the Security tab
> 15. Click Advanced...
> 16. Click Edit...
> 17. Click Add...
> 18. Type the user you want to add and click OK. It will probably be you
> 19. Select the checkboxes for the permissions you wish to have. Full
> control
> is obviously everything.
> 20. Click OK
> 21. Check the "Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all
> descendands with inheritable permissions from this object" checkbox
> 22. Click OK three times.
>
> That's all there is to it.
>
>
>

Hi Jasper

It did not work. When I got to Step 18, I put Administrator which is me,
then I did steps 19 and 20, and on step 21 when I clicked ok, it started
going through each folder & telling me I do not have permission do I want to
continue.

The problem I believe is I tried making a new folder on this hard drive,
but when I go to get into it I do not have permissions, therefore I selected
the whole hard drives permissions in properties, security & it is some odd
numbers as who has control. I am now trying to take full control of the
whole hard drive by going through your steps you so kindly wrote out for me,
I printed them, I will let you know what happens. This is very frustrating.

I want to add a couple things in case they are needed information.
1. This is an External Hard Drive
2. I had a different network set up & changed it because I had problems with
my internet, on four (4) computers.
3. When I changed the network is when I ran into the problems, however I
cannot remember what the old network was as I threw the typed out paper work
away & typed out the new one for my corkboard on my wall to always have it
handy in case I need it.
4. I am now trying to take full control of this whole hard drive (Maxtor =
the worst) by going through your steps, however I think when it comes to
step 21 I am going to run into the same problem as ---

Well it now tells me I do not have control, Access is denied. There is a
Cancel tab & a continue tab...

Any ideas?

TJ


"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CDC992A4-313E-4F9F-85C0-7FC0F455ACCF@microsoft.com...
>> I have a 65gig folder that will not let me have permissions to open it or
>> anything else. I honestly have no clue how it got this way (the
>> permissions). I do have a private network. I cannot just reformat the
>> drive as I need the files that are inside. I have tried taking control
>> of
>> the permissions, but it is not working. Can anyone please tell me how to
>> get my permissions back so that I can get on with my work? I have spent
>> three days doing everything I can offered in the Help section, but it is
>> not
>> giving me permissions. Even when logged in as Administrator it will not
>> let
>> me in the frolder. It tells me I do not have permission...I am the only
>> one
>> that uses this computer. Im running Vista Ultimate Boxed.
>
> 1. Log on as an Administrator
> 2. Right-click the folder and select Properties
> 3. Click the Security tab
> 4. Click Advanced
> 5. Click the Owner tab
> 6. Click the Edit... button. It should have a shield on it
> 7. Accept the elevation prompt
> 8. Select yourself in the "Change owner to:" dialog. It should be one of
> the
> options, if it is not, browse to it using the "Other users or groups..."
> button
> 9. Check the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox
> 10. Click OK
> 11. Click Yes, then OK three times
> 12. Right-click the folder
> 13. Select Properties
> 14. Click the Security tab
> 15. Click Advanced...
> 16. Click Edit...
> 17. Click Add...
> 18. Type the user you want to add and click OK. It will probably be you
> 19. Select the checkboxes for the permissions you wish to have. Full
> control
> is obviously everything.
> 20. Click OK
> 21. Check the "Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all
> descendands with inheritable permissions from this object" checkbox
> 22. Click OK three times.
>
> That's all there is to it.
>
>

> It did not work. When I got to Step 18, I put Administrator which is me,
> then I did steps 19 and 20, and on step 21 when I clicked ok, it started
> going through each folder & telling me I do not have permission do I want to
> continue.

No, Administrator is the name of an account. It is not the name of your
account. You need to pick your account (the one that shows up on the logon
screen when you log on). What you did was give the Administrator account
permissions, and that account is disabled.

> I am now trying to take full control of the
> whole hard drive by going through your steps you so kindly wrote out for me,

Is this the main hard drive in your system? If it is just an external
removable, then it is fine.

Just to make sure though, if this is the drive you boot from: PLEASE! Do not
do that! You will most likely ruin your system by changing all the
permissions in this way. At the very least you will destroy all security that
is based on file system security, including service hardening, user account
control, and the protections in Internet Explorer.

Hi Jasper,

I have only one account set up on my computers because I am the only one
that uses then, RE: Administrator. Am I in need of creating another
account?

> Is this the main hard drive in your system? If it is just an external
> removable, then it is fine.

No it not the main hard drive, it is an external drive that has all my
download files on it since 1999 that are important as I use them daily or
weekly, ironically enough I am transferring from my main computer through
the network to one of its hard drives with Total Commander. It is actually
just about completed in transferring all the files in the Folder & I am
deleting them as I go.

So, I have gotten into the hard drive to access the folder & sub-folders. I
want to take full control of this hard drive. If I need to set up an
account to do this & go through all this, I can, but I prefer always logging
in as Administrator as I need to be logged in as Administrator for all my
daily tasks on each computer. This is why I have not ever made another user
account. I got away with it in XP Pro & never ran into any kind of
problems, LOL especially as this hard drive issue. Which is mind boggling
majorly. It is the one & only hard drive (out of 35) that has locked me out
but not through network. I can get all files through my network. Strange
indeed.

Once files are all transferred I want to reformat it & transfer them back,
but firstly I need to take full control of the hard drive to do this. I
prefer it in Administrator as that is what I log in as everyday. Apparently
from reading what you have written it is necessary for me to create another
account?

Thank you very much Jasper.

TJ

"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C44AD4E9-2264-4313-8454-7ACB11D0CFEF@microsoft.com...
>> It did not work. When I got to Step 18, I put Administrator which is me,
>> then I did steps 19 and 20, and on step 21 when I clicked ok, it started
>> going through each folder & telling me I do not have permission do I want
>> to
>> continue.
>
> No, Administrator is the name of an account. It is not the name of your
> account. You need to pick your account (the one that shows up on the logon
> screen when you log on). What you did was give the Administrator account
> permissions, and that account is disabled.
>
>> I am now trying to take full control of the
>> whole hard drive by going through your steps you so kindly wrote out for
>> me,
>
> Is this the main hard drive in your system? If it is just an external
> removable, then it is fine.
>
> Just to make sure though, if this is the drive you boot from: PLEASE! Do
> not
> do that! You will most likely ruin your system by changing all the
> permissions in this way. At the very least you will destroy all security
> that
> is based on file system security, including service hardening, user
> account
> control, and the protections in Internet Explorer.
>
>

> I have only one account set up on my computers because I am the only one
> that uses then, RE: Administrator. Am I in need of creating another
> account?

No. Your account is an administrator, that's fine.

> No it not the main hard drive, it is an external drive that has all my
> download files on it since 1999 that are important as I use them daily or
> weekly

No worries then.

> So, I have gotten into the hard drive to access the folder & sub-folders. I
> want to take full control of this hard drive. If I need to set up an
> account to do this & go through all this, I can, but I prefer always logging
> in as Administrator as I need to be logged in as Administrator for all my
> daily tasks on each computer.

You should not log on as THE Administrator. That account is disabled on
Vista, and should remain so. You may log on as AN administrator, i.e. an
account that is a member of the Administrators group. BTW, unless your daily
tasks involve debugging kernel mode drivers or something to that effect I
doubt they require you to be logged on as an administrator.

>I got away with it in XP Pro & never ran into any kind of
> problems, LOL especially as this hard drive issue.

Well, you are running into it now. It is not really related to what account
you used on XP Pro though.

> Once files are all transferred I want to reformat it & transfer them back,
> but firstly I need to take full control of the hard drive to do this. I
> prefer it in Administrator as that is what I log in as everyday.

How do you log on as the Administrator on Vista anyway? The account is
disabled and hidden from the logon screen. Did you re-enable it and unhide it
from the logon screen? That's a lot of work to go through to break the
security of the system. In fact, if you did that, I don't think you would
have this problem that you are describing anyway, because that account is not
subject to UAC if I recall correctly.

> Apparently
> from reading what you have written it is necessary for me to create another
> account?

No, in any case, you would not need another account to fix this. You can
give whatever account you are using full control over the files. Heck, since
you are going to wipe the drive anyway, just give Everyone Full Control over
it. That would definitely let you access the files to move them off and it
wouldn't hurt anything.

Jasper wrote:

How do you log on as the Administrator on Vista anyway? The account is
disabled and hidden from the logon screen. Did you re-enable it and unhide
it
from the logon screen? That's a lot of work to go through to break the
security of the system. In fact, if you did that, I don't think you would
have this problem that you are describing anyway, because that account is
not
subject to UAC if I recall correctly.

Oh, I guess I am lost. No I am not that intelligent to break that kind of
stuff LOL nor do I have time to even see if it is possible. ROFL I log on
with the screen that came up after installation. It only asked me for my
password & nothing more. I assumed it was the Administrator, but I
apparently am wrong. Ok then so I have an account with Administrator
privileges?

I have transferred all the files. Now if I reformat it & want to use it,
will it allow me to? Or, is there something special I need to do? I am
sorry, I am lost I guess. All this time I thought I was logging in as
Administrator, but I guess I am logging in as me, LOL with Administrator
privileges.

TJ


"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0D183BB0-8F8E-42F1-819D-DEF333F71DE4@microsoft.com...
>> I have only one account set up on my computers because I am the only one
>> that uses then, RE: Administrator. Am I in need of creating another
>> account?
>
> No. Your account is an administrator, that's fine.
>
>> No it not the main hard drive, it is an external drive that has all my
>> download files on it since 1999 that are important as I use them daily or
>> weekly
>
> No worries then.
>
>> So, I have gotten into the hard drive to access the folder & sub-folders.
>> I
>> want to take full control of this hard drive. If I need to set up an
>> account to do this & go through all this, I can, but I prefer always
>> logging
>> in as Administrator as I need to be logged in as Administrator for all my
>> daily tasks on each computer.
>
> You should not log on as THE Administrator. That account is disabled on
> Vista, and should remain so. You may log on as AN administrator, i.e. an
> account that is a member of the Administrators group. BTW, unless your
> daily
> tasks involve debugging kernel mode drivers or something to that effect I
> doubt they require you to be logged on as an administrator.
>
>>I got away with it in XP Pro & never ran into any kind of
>> problems, LOL especially as this hard drive issue.
>
> Well, you are running into it now. It is not really related to what
> account
> you used on XP Pro though.
>
>> Once files are all transferred I want to reformat it & transfer them
>> back,
>> but firstly I need to take full control of the hard drive to do this. I
>> prefer it in Administrator as that is what I log in as everyday.
>
> How do you log on as the Administrator on Vista anyway? The account is
> disabled and hidden from the logon screen. Did you re-enable it and unhide
> it
> from the logon screen? That's a lot of work to go through to break the
> security of the system. In fact, if you did that, I don't think you would
> have this problem that you are describing anyway, because that account is
> not
> subject to UAC if I recall correctly.
>
>> Apparently
>> from reading what you have written it is necessary for me to create
>> another
>> account?
>
> No, in any case, you would not need another account to fix this. You can
> give whatever account you are using full control over the files. Heck,
> since
> you are going to wipe the drive anyway, just give Everyone Full Control
> over
> it. That would definitely let you access the files to move them off and it
> wouldn't hurt anything.

> Oh, I guess I am lost. No I am not that intelligent to break that kind of
> stuff

I'm sure you are, but applying it to more important things.

> Ok then so I have an account with Administrator
> privileges?

Yes, which is better

> I have transferred all the files. Now if I reformat it & want to use it,
> will it allow me to? Or, is there something special I need to do? I am
> sorry, I am lost I guess.

Yep, should be no problems now. As long as you have a backup copy of the
files you can copy them back once you have reformatted. Windows will create a
set of permissions that should make sense on the drive once you reformat it,
and now you know how to fix them should you have to.

Hi Jasper

I am formatting the drive now. I want to Thank you very much for taking the
time helping me with this. I truly am thankful for your help, knowledge, &
patients!! ;o)

Hats off!!!

I have full control over my hard drive now!! Made my day! ;o)

Have a fantastic day & thank you once again!!

TJ


"Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF26C07F-CC00-42DF-8D2E-3FEDE71C69AF@microsoft.com...
>> Oh, I guess I am lost. No I am not that intelligent to break that kind
>> of
>> stuff
>
> I'm sure you are, but applying it to more important things.
>
>> Ok then so I have an account with Administrator
>> privileges?
>
> Yes, which is better
>
>> I have transferred all the files. Now if I reformat it & want to use it,
>> will it allow me to? Or, is there something special I need to do? I am
>> sorry, I am lost I guess.
>
> Yep, should be no problems now. As long as you have a backup copy of the
> files you can copy them back once you have reformatted. Windows will
> create a
> set of permissions that should make sense on the drive once you reformat
> it,
> and now you know how to fix them should you have to.