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Old 04-30-2007   #1 (permalink)
L Cente
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backup and restore files depending on Vista version

I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.

The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise o
Ultimate.)

So my question is..
Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a marketing
plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program like
this?


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Old 04-30-2007   #2 (permalink)
Iuvenalis
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

"L Cente" <L Cente@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:714E6015-6B39-43BC-94E6-AAA614819AEC@microsoft.com...
> I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
> backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.
>
> The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
> user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
> installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise
> o
> Ultimate.)
>
> So my question is..
> Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a
> marketing
> plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program
> like
> this?
>



http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...g_id=10033VHb1

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Old 04-30-2007   #3 (permalink)
L Cente
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version



>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...g_id=10033VHb1



As I understood in that link is what i was saying it was true.
In my opinion for the user is not useful to make a backup, and then to
restor and recover their data to update a new version. Why this option??
thanks
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Old 04-30-2007   #4 (permalink)
Ontrackk99
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RE: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

I can't believe this...so basically Vista Home Premium backup is useless if
something happens to your hdd????
Next question...will an outside vendor complete backup program be able to
restore the entire computer as it says it will or is there something in Vista
that will prevent it? Thx

"L Cente" wrote:

> I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
> backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.
>
> The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
> user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
> installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise o
> Ultimate.)
>
> So my question is..
> Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a marketing
> plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program like
> this?
>

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Old 04-30-2007   #5 (permalink)
StephenB
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

L Cente <L Cente@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
>backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.
>
>The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
>user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
>installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise o
>Ultimate.)
>
>So my question is..
>Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a marketing
>plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program like
>this?

Untrue.
In Vista Home Premium you can perform a scheduled backup of files. In Ultimate
and the Business editions you can perform a full PC image backup. You can
restore files backed up in the Home editions to a repaired/reinstalled Home
edition, but it is *not* an image backup, so programs and settings are not
backed up.
What you may have heard of is the Volume Shadow Copy allows users of Ultimate
and Business editions to recover previous versions of files - this is not a
backup, it is like an enhanced "System Restore" function on a file by file
basis. The news reports that I read indicated that the Home versions also made
the Volume Shadow Copies, but these copies were unable to be accessed unless you
upgrade to Ultimate or Business editions.
-steve
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Stephen Boots
MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
sboots@mvps.org
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Old 04-30-2007   #6 (permalink)
Iuvenalis
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

"L Cente" <LCente@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:76C6A287-C2C2-4859-A7B9-4DB88F3D43C3@microsoft.com...
>
>
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...g_id=10033VHb1

>
>
> As I understood in that link is what i was saying it was true.
> In my opinion for the user is not useful to make a backup, and then to
> restor and recover their data to update a new version. Why this option??
> thanks



Where on earth did you read that at the link I posted?
It couldn't be more clear.

Business & Ultimate are the only versions with a built in imaging program to
create an image of the hard disk.
Premium, Business, Enterprise & ultimate all include an application to
backup & restore files.

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Old 04-30-2007   #7 (permalink)
Ontrackk99
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

I am not sure who you were answering me or the previous poster. But in
reading your reply the Home Prem. Edit. only backs up files not Programs and
settings UNLESS you upgrade the version.
My question is will Home Prem. allow the restore of PROGRAM files that are
created by a 3rd party B/U program?
ty

"StephenB" wrote:

> L Cente <L Cente@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
> >backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.
> >
> >The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
> >user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
> >installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise o
> >Ultimate.)
> >
> >So my question is..
> >Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a marketing
> >plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program like
> >this?

> Untrue.
> In Vista Home Premium you can perform a scheduled backup of files. In Ultimate
> and the Business editions you can perform a full PC image backup. You can
> restore files backed up in the Home editions to a repaired/reinstalled Home
> edition, but it is *not* an image backup, so programs and settings are not
> backed up.
> What you may have heard of is the Volume Shadow Copy allows users of Ultimate
> and Business editions to recover previous versions of files - this is not a
> backup, it is like an enhanced "System Restore" function on a file by file
> basis. The news reports that I read indicated that the Home versions also made
> the Volume Shadow Copies, but these copies were unable to be accessed unless you
> upgrade to Ultimate or Business editions.
> -steve
> --
> Stephen Boots
> MVP Windows Live
> Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
> sboots@mvps.org
>

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Old 05-01-2007   #8 (permalink)
Rock
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

"L Cente" <L Cente@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:714E6015-6B39-43BC-94E6-AAA614819AEC@microsoft.com...
> I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
> backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.
>
> The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
> user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
> installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise
> o
> Ultimate.)
>
> So my question is..
> Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a
> marketing
> plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program
> like
> this?
>



No it's not true because you're mixing apples and oranges. All versions of
Vista come with a backup program for user files, and of course those files
can be restored. It is not a system backup. Ultimate, Business and
Enterprise versions also come with Complete PC Backup. This is a drive /
partition imaging program. This can be used to backup the entire system and
restore it as a complete system.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...03c481033.mspx

To get that functionality in Vista Basic and Home Premium, 3rd party imaging
software is needed such as Acronis True Image Home, version 10.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

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Old 05-01-2007   #9 (permalink)
Rock
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

"Ontrackk99" <Ontrackk99@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>I am not sure who you were answering me or the previous poster. But in
> reading your reply the Home Prem. Edit. only backs up files not Programs
> and
> settings UNLESS you upgrade the version.
> My question is will Home Prem. allow the restore of PROGRAM files that are
> created by a 3rd party B/U program?


The files have to be restored by the program that created the backup. No OS
can by itself restore backup files. What is the program that created the
backup? Does that program install and run on Vista?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

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Old 05-01-2007   #10 (permalink)
Ontrackk99
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Re: backup and restore files depending on Vista version

It runs on Vista (at least the b/u does) It is Easy Creator 9.0 from Roxio
and the backup is "Backup MY PC"

"Rock" wrote:

> "Ontrackk99" <Ontrackk99@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >I am not sure who you were answering me or the previous poster. But in
> > reading your reply the Home Prem. Edit. only backs up files not Programs
> > and
> > settings UNLESS you upgrade the version.
> > My question is will Home Prem. allow the restore of PROGRAM files that are
> > created by a 3rd party B/U program?

>
> The files have to be restored by the program that created the backup. No OS
> can by itself restore backup files. What is the program that created the
> backup? Does that program install and run on Vista?
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>

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