Vista - Frustrated User

I just got my new Pc with Vista Basic on it. I connected an external hard
drive to this nice pc. I am a web designer so today I access the data on the
external drive to update a website and go to save the changes and it denies
me. Now I have seached every where for help on how to change the permissions
on this PC i am the sole use and my user settings say i am the administrator.
Please help me. I had to save my info on my desktop in order to trabfer to
the website. I would rather keep all my files together. if there is anyone
out there that is bored and would like to eplain to me how to fix this issue
I would deeply appriciate it.

Tammy wrote:
> I just got my new Pc with Vista Basic on it. I connected an external
> hard drive to this nice pc. I am a web designer so today I access the
> data on the external drive to update a website and go to save the
> changes and it denies me. Now I have seached every where for help on
> how to change the permissions on this PC i am the sole use and my
> user settings say i am the administrator. Please help me. I had to
> save my info on my desktop in order to trabfer to the website. I
> would rather keep all my files together. if there is anyone out there
> that is bored and would like to eplain to me how to fix this issue I
> would deeply appriciate it.

Right click the drive
Properties
Security
Advanced
Edit
Configure permissions
check the 'Replace all inheritable permissions on all descendants ....... '
Apply

That should grant you access and allow you to update your files. If you have
any problems then go through the process again but change the Ownership on
all objects before changing the permissions. I had to do this when a
directory on my external drive wouldn't allow me to delete a directory even
though I was admin.

hth

Hello,

You are experiencing this problem because the files on your external
hard drive were created in another installation of Windows, and so
Windows Vista does not recognize that you are the creator of the
files.

To tell Windows Vista that you own the files on Home Basic, you can
follow these steps:

- Click Start
- Type: cmd
- Right-click cmd when it appears
- Click Run As Administrator
- Change location to your drive (e.g., type e:<enter> for drive e)
- Type: icacls . /grant USEROI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q
(Where USER is your username)

If you get any errors, post them as a reply and we will work from
there.

--
-JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

On Fri, 18 May 2007 06:27:00 -0700, Tammy <Tammy
@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I just got my new Pc with Vista Basic on it. I connected an external hard
>drive to this nice pc. I am a web designer so today I access the data on the
>external drive to update a website and go to save the changes and it denies
>me. Now I have seached every where for help on how to change the permissions
>on this PC i am the sole use and my user settings say i am the administrator.
>Please help me. I had to save my info on my desktop in order to trabfer to
>the website. I would rather keep all my files together. if there is anyone
>out there that is bored and would like to eplain to me how to fix this issue
>I would deeply appriciate it.

OK I went to cmd, I have not used this one in a long time ) brings back old
memories of PERL.... But ok I typed in what you said. How when I click start
and type cmd the screen just pops up. How do I run as Admin? Then I typed
exactly what you said with the user as Tammy it said access is denied,
successfully processed 0 files: Filed processing 1 files.

icacls . /grant TammyOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q

Thank you for help me i look forward to your reply

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> You are experiencing this problem because the files on your external
> hard drive were created in another installation of Windows, and so
> Windows Vista does not recognize that you are the creator of the
> files.
>
> To tell Windows Vista that you own the files on Home Basic, you can
> follow these steps:
>
> - Click Start
> - Type: cmd
> - Right-click cmd when it appears
> - Click Run As Administrator
> - Change location to your drive (e.g., type e:<enter> for drive e)
> - Type: icacls . /grant USEROI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q
> (Where USER is your username)
>
> If you get any errors, post them as a reply and we will work from
> there.
>
> --
> -JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 06:27:00 -0700, Tammy <Tammy
> @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I just got my new Pc with Vista Basic on it. I connected an external hard
> >drive to this nice pc. I am a web designer so today I access the data on the
> >external drive to update a website and go to save the changes and it denies
> >me. Now I have seached every where for help on how to change the permissions
> >on this PC i am the sole use and my user settings say i am the administrator.
> >Please help me. I had to save my info on my desktop in order to trabfer to
> >the website. I would rather keep all my files together. if there is anyone
> >out there that is bored and would like to eplain to me how to fix this issue
> >I would deeply appriciate it.
>

Tammy wrote:
> OK I went to cmd, I have not used this one in a long time ) brings
> back old memories of PERL.... But ok I typed in what you said. How
> when I click start and type cmd the screen just pops up. How do I
> run as Admin? Then I typed exactly what you said with the user as
> Tammy it said access is denied, successfully processed 0 files: Filed
> processing 1 files.
>
> icacls . /grant TammyOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q
>
> Thank you for help me i look forward to your reply
>

Start / All Programs / Accessories / <right click> Command Prompt / Run As
Administrator

hth

IT WORKED!!! Woohoo! Thank you sooo much.

"Neil Harley" wrote:

> Tammy wrote:
> > OK I went to cmd, I have not used this one in a long time ) brings
> > back old memories of PERL.... But ok I typed in what you said. How
> > when I click start and type cmd the screen just pops up. How do I
> > run as Admin? Then I typed exactly what you said with the user as
> > Tammy it said access is denied, successfully processed 0 files: Filed
> > processing 1 files.
> >
> > icacls . /grant TammyOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q
> >
> > Thank you for help me i look forward to your reply
> >
>
> Start / All Programs / Accessories / <right click> Command Prompt / Run As
> Administrator
>
> hth
>

Hello:

This thread is very helpful. Thanks.

My problem is a little bit different. Please help. I am the only user of a
Dell laptop- 1501 with Windows Vista Home Basic. But under Security settings,
I found that following items are not checked:

Full Control
Delete Subfolders & files
Delete
Change Permissions
Take Ownership

(I don't know why these items are unchecked. I might have wrongly made
mistakes while playing the laptop as I am new to Vista got it several days
ago)

So when I typed in icals . /grant my_usernameOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q and
pressed enter button as suggested by Jimmy, I got the following message

..:Access is denied.
Successfully processed 0 files; Failed processing 1 files" message.

I have an application which temporarily created some files while running. It
works OK on WinXP computers. But it doesn't work on this Vista PC. With the
help of VC6 Debugger, I found that the error message for creating temporary
file is "Permission Denied".

Can anyone give me some advice on

1. How can I have the full control of the system with above items checked ?
(I've tried to go to Advanced - Edit under Security but these items are
grayed and I could not change anything).

2. How to make the application running without "Permission Denied" error?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,


Ke

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> You are experiencing this problem because the files on your external
> hard drive were created in another installation of Windows, and so
> Windows Vista does not recognize that you are the creator of the
> files.
>
> To tell Windows Vista that you own the files on Home Basic, you can
> follow these steps:
>
> - Click Start
> - Type: cmd
> - Right-click cmd when it appears
> - Click Run As Administrator
> - Change location to your drive (e.g., type e:<enter> for drive e)
> - Type: icacls . /grant USEROI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q
> (Where USER is your username)
>
> If you get any errors, post them as a reply and we will work from
> there.
>
> --
> -JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 06:27:00 -0700, Tammy <Tammy
> @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I just got my new Pc with Vista Basic on it. I connected an external hard
> >drive to this nice pc. I am a web designer so today I access the data on the
> >external drive to update a website and go to save the changes and it denies
> >me. Now I have seached every where for help on how to change the permissions
> >on this PC i am the sole use and my user settings say i am the administrator.
> >Please help me. I had to save my info on my desktop in order to trabfer to
> >the website. I would rather keep all my files together. if there is anyone
> >out there that is bored and would like to eplain to me how to fix this issue
> >I would deeply appriciate it.
>

Did you try to run icals . /grant my_usernameOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q from an
elevated (Run as Administrator) command prompt?


"kezhu" <kezhu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8558166C-DD4C-43EB-A8D1-D52487B2024D@microsoft.com...
> Hello:
>
> This thread is very helpful. Thanks.
>
> My problem is a little bit different. Please help. I am the only user of a
> Dell laptop- 1501 with Windows Vista Home Basic. But under Security settings,
> I found that following items are not checked:
>
> Full Control
> Delete Subfolders & files
> Delete
> Change Permissions
> Take Ownership
>
> (I don't know why these items are unchecked. I might have wrongly made
> mistakes while playing the laptop as I am new to Vista got it several days
> ago)
>
> So when I typed in icals . /grant my_usernameOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q and
> pressed enter button as suggested by Jimmy, I got the following message
>
> .:Access is denied.
> Successfully processed 0 files; Failed processing 1 files" message.
>
> I have an application which temporarily created some files while running. It
> works OK on WinXP computers. But it doesn't work on this Vista PC. With the
> help of VC6 Debugger, I found that the error message for creating temporary
> file is "Permission Denied".
>
> Can anyone give me some advice on
>
> 1. How can I have the full control of the system with above items checked ?
> (I've tried to go to Advanced - Edit under Security but these items are
> grayed and I could not change anything).
>
> 2. How to make the application running without "Permission Denied" error?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Ke
>
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> You are experiencing this problem because the files on your external
>> hard drive were created in another installation of Windows, and so
>> Windows Vista does not recognize that you are the creator of the
>> files.
>>
>> To tell Windows Vista that you own the files on Home Basic, you can
>> follow these steps:
>>
>> - Click Start
>> - Type: cmd
>> - Right-click cmd when it appears
>> - Click Run As Administrator
>> - Change location to your drive (e.g., type e:<enter> for drive e)
>> - Type: icacls . /grant USEROI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q
>> (Where USER is your username)
>>
>> If you get any errors, post them as a reply and we will work from
>> there.
>>
>> --
>> -JB
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
>> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>>
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 06:27:00 -0700, Tammy <Tammy
>> @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I just got my new Pc with Vista Basic on it. I connected an external hard
>> >drive to this nice pc. I am a web designer so today I access the data on the
>> >external drive to update a website and go to save the changes and it denies
>> >me. Now I have seached every where for help on how to change the permissions
>> >on this PC i am the sole use and my user settings say i am the
>> >administrator.
>> >Please help me. I had to save my info on my desktop in order to trabfer to
>> >the website. I would rather keep all my files together. if there is anyone
>> >out there that is bored and would like to eplain to me how to fix this issue
>> >I would deeply appriciate it.
>>

Hello,

1)

To which folder are you referring that has these security settings?

Unless you have a very good reason, you should only use the command I
mentioned on files and folders that you created yourself.

In Windows Vista, sensitive operating-system files, such as most files
in \windows\system32\, can only be modified by Windows Installer -
which would be when you install or uninstall a patch or service pack.

You can still put files in this location and have control over them as
an administrator - this is not restricted... you just can't modify
system files that are already there.

This is an added security feature of Windows Vista. Since you normally
never modify system files directly, only through installing/removing
service packs and hotfixes, this "locks down" your computer by not
allowing the unlikely scenario.

If you change these default security settings, you make your computer
less secure by allowing more programs access to these sensitive files.

In order to change the security settings, you need to first take
ownership of the files. I would recommend only doing this if you
intend to manually remove some files, and only take ownership of &
change the permissions on the specific files that you need to remove.

2)

- Have you located the specific folder that the application is
attempting to write to? If so, what is it?

- Have you turned UAC off?

- JB

>Hello:
>
>This thread is very helpful. Thanks.
>
>My problem is a little bit different. Please help. I am the only user of a
>Dell laptop- 1501 with Windows Vista Home Basic. But under Security settings,
>I found that following items are not checked:
>
>Full Control
>Delete Subfolders & files
>Delete
>Change Permissions
>Take Ownership
>
>(I don't know why these items are unchecked. I might have wrongly made
>mistakes while playing the laptop as I am new to Vista got it several days
>ago)
>
>So when I typed in icals . /grant my_usernameOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q and
>pressed enter button as suggested by Jimmy, I got the following message
>
>.:Access is denied.
>Successfully processed 0 files; Failed processing 1 files" message.
>
>I have an application which temporarily created some files while running. It
>works OK on WinXP computers. But it doesn't work on this Vista PC. With the
>help of VC6 Debugger, I found that the error message for creating temporary
>file is "Permission Denied".
>
>Can anyone give me some advice on
>
>1. How can I have the full control of the system with above items checked ?
>(I've tried to go to Advanced - Edit under Security but these items are
>grayed and I could not change anything).
>
>2. How to make the application running without "Permission Denied" error?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Ke

Thanks Jimmy for your quick reply.

Regarding Jimmy's question 1)
It is referring to C:\ as when my application is running some temporary
files are created on c:\.

The Dell Laptop was installed Vista Home Basic when I got it. I am the only
user of it (In fact, I added another testuser and give it all rights of
Administrative Group and it is the same as the first user. I guess this is
because the first user doesn't have some of the rights as mentioned in my
last message). My main purpose is to make my application work. And I am
trying to understand how these security issues affect the application to run
under Vista. The application could be installed to a Vista PC without any
problem with files put to System32 and writing to Registry.

Because the Take ownership check box was grayed out, What I can do to get
that one work?

Regarding Jimmy's question 2:
I partly replied Jimmy's question 2 above.
How can I turn off UAC? Sorry for this silly question as I am new to vista.

Thank you again for your help.


Cheers,


Ke
"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> 1)
>
> To which folder are you referring that has these security settings?
>
> Unless you have a very good reason, you should only use the command I
> mentioned on files and folders that you created yourself.
>
> In Windows Vista, sensitive operating-system files, such as most files
> in \windows\system32\, can only be modified by Windows Installer -
> which would be when you install or uninstall a patch or service pack.
>
> You can still put files in this location and have control over them as
> an administrator - this is not restricted... you just can't modify
> system files that are already there.
>
> This is an added security feature of Windows Vista. Since you normally
> never modify system files directly, only through installing/removing
> service packs and hotfixes, this "locks down" your computer by not
> allowing the unlikely scenario.
>
> If you change these default security settings, you make your computer
> less secure by allowing more programs access to these sensitive files.
>
> In order to change the security settings, you need to first take
> ownership of the files. I would recommend only doing this if you
> intend to manually remove some files, and only take ownership of &
> change the permissions on the specific files that you need to remove.
>
> 2)
>
> - Have you located the specific folder that the application is
> attempting to write to? If so, what is it?
>
> - Have you turned UAC off?
>
> - JB
>
> >Hello:
> >
> >This thread is very helpful. Thanks.
> >
> >My problem is a little bit different. Please help. I am the only user of a
> >Dell laptop- 1501 with Windows Vista Home Basic. But under Security settings,
> >I found that following items are not checked:
> >
> >Full Control
> >Delete Subfolders & files
> >Delete
> >Change Permissions
> >Take Ownership
> >
> >(I don't know why these items are unchecked. I might have wrongly made
> >mistakes while playing the laptop as I am new to Vista got it several days
> >ago)
> >
> >So when I typed in icals . /grant my_usernameOI)(CI)(F) /L /T /Q and
> >pressed enter button as suggested by Jimmy, I got the following message
> >
> >.:Access is denied.
> >Successfully processed 0 files; Failed processing 1 files" message.
> >
> >I have an application which temporarily created some files while running. It
> >works OK on WinXP computers. But it doesn't work on this Vista PC. With the
> >help of VC6 Debugger, I found that the error message for creating temporary
> >file is "Permission Denied".
> >
> >Can anyone give me some advice on
> >
> >1. How can I have the full control of the system with above items checked ?
> >(I've tried to go to Advanced - Edit under Security but these items are
> >grayed and I could not change anything).
> >
> >2. How to make the application running without "Permission Denied" error?
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >
> >Ke
>