Vista - Sharing folders between Vista and Windows XP

I have shared a folder on an XP machine which contains an Access Database
that I'm trying to use on a Vista machine but it won;t let me access it.
When I set the share I gave everyone full permissions. What else do I have
to do to satisfy Vista?

Thanks,

Vic

If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
everyone permissions using the security tab, or enable
password-protection.

--
-JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:11 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
<vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:

>I have shared a folder on an XP machine which contains an Access Database
>that I'm trying to use on a Vista machine but it won;t let me access it.
>When I set the share I gave everyone full permissions. What else do I have
>to do to satisfy Vista?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Vic
>

"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:3ii4535qt4irpj1s2frbsjb7mjsr7sheul@4ax.com...
> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
> everyone permissions using the security tab, or enable
> password-protection.
>
> --
> -JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:11 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
> <vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:
>
>>I have shared a folder on an XP machine which contains an Access Database
>>that I'm trying to use on a Vista machine but it won;t let me access it.
>>When I set the share I gave everyone full permissions. What else do I
>>have
>>to do to satisfy Vista?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Vic
>>


>> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
> everyone permissions using the security tab,

Jimmy - What is "easy" sharing?

"Simple file sharing" is the file sharing mode that defaults in
Windows XP Home (nor sure if it defaults in XP Pro).

Since you are getting access denied while attempting to access your XP
machine, the problem is most likely on your XP machine, not your Vista
machine.

If you see both a Sharing tab and a Security tab on your Windows XP
machine in the file properies screen, and the sharing tab includes
buttons that say "Permissions" and "Caching", you are using advanced
sharing.

With advanced sharing turned on, you need to deal with both share
permissions AND security permissions.

Share permissions do not actually ASSIGN permissions - they simply
specify that MAXIUMUM amount of permission someone accessing the share
can obtain over files while accessing that share.

Securtity permissions via the Security tab actually assigns
permissions to the files/folders - these are what really count. If
someone doesn't have access to a folder via the security tab, it
doesn't matter what the share permissions say.

ALso note that If you do not enter your Windows XP username and
password when connecting to your XP machine from your Vista machine
(and your username and password are different between your XP and
Vista machines), Windows XP doesn't know who you are and knows you
only as a "guest" or "everyone" as opposed to your username.

This means that in this case, you will only be able to access
files/folders that list "everyone" as having the desired access on
their security tab.

You can turn on simple sharing in XP from any explorer window by
clicking tools -> folder options -> View tab - > and checking "Use
simple file sharing (Recommended)"

With simple file sharing, Windows XP takes care of both the sharing
and security permissions for you - you just specify whether you want
people accessing your share to be able to modify files or not.

- JB

On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:30:21 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
<vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:

>
>"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:3ii4535qt4irpj1s2frbsjb7mjsr7sheul@4ax.com...
>> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
>> everyone permissions using the security tab, or enable
>> password-protection.
>>
>> --
>> -JB
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
>> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>>
>> On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:11 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
>> <vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I have shared a folder on an XP machine which contains an Access Database
>>>that I'm trying to use on a Vista machine but it won;t let me access it.
>>>When I set the share I gave everyone full permissions. What else do I
>>>have
>>>to do to satisfy Vista?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Vic
>>>
>
>
>>> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
>> everyone permissions using the security tab,
>
>Jimmy - What is "easy" sharing?
>

Jimmy - Thanks for the in-depth explaination, I now have it working!

Vic

"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:q13853lhvoob058696k8a5b0g7dtueoo85@4ax.com...
> "Simple file sharing" is the file sharing mode that defaults in
> Windows XP Home (nor sure if it defaults in XP Pro).
>
> Since you are getting access denied while attempting to access your XP
> machine, the problem is most likely on your XP machine, not your Vista
> machine.
>
> If you see both a Sharing tab and a Security tab on your Windows XP
> machine in the file properies screen, and the sharing tab includes
> buttons that say "Permissions" and "Caching", you are using advanced
> sharing.
>
> With advanced sharing turned on, you need to deal with both share
> permissions AND security permissions.
>
> Share permissions do not actually ASSIGN permissions - they simply
> specify that MAXIUMUM amount of permission someone accessing the share
> can obtain over files while accessing that share.
>
> Securtity permissions via the Security tab actually assigns
> permissions to the files/folders - these are what really count. If
> someone doesn't have access to a folder via the security tab, it
> doesn't matter what the share permissions say.
>
> ALso note that If you do not enter your Windows XP username and
> password when connecting to your XP machine from your Vista machine
> (and your username and password are different between your XP and
> Vista machines), Windows XP doesn't know who you are and knows you
> only as a "guest" or "everyone" as opposed to your username.
>
> This means that in this case, you will only be able to access
> files/folders that list "everyone" as having the desired access on
> their security tab.
>
> You can turn on simple sharing in XP from any explorer window by
> clicking tools -> folder options -> View tab - > and checking "Use
> simple file sharing (Recommended)"
>
> With simple file sharing, Windows XP takes care of both the sharing
> and security permissions for you - you just specify whether you want
> people accessing your share to be able to modify files or not.
>
> - JB
>
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:30:21 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
> <vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>news:3ii4535qt4irpj1s2frbsjb7mjsr7sheul@4ax.com...
>>> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
>>> everyone permissions using the security tab, or enable
>>> password-protection.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -JB
>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
>>> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:11 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
>>> <vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have shared a folder on an XP machine which contains an Access
>>>>Database
>>>>that I'm trying to use on a Vista machine but it won;t let me access it.
>>>>When I set the share I gave everyone full permissions. What else do I
>>>>have
>>>>to do to satisfy Vista?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Vic
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
>>> everyone permissions using the security tab,
>>
>>Jimmy - What is "easy" sharing?
>>

You're welcome

- JB

On Wed, 23 May 2007 06:23:48 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
<vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:

>Jimmy - Thanks for the in-depth explaination, I now have it working!
>
>Vic
>
>"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:q13853lhvoob058696k8a5b0g7dtueoo85@4ax.com...
>> "Simple file sharing" is the file sharing mode that defaults in
>> Windows XP Home (nor sure if it defaults in XP Pro).
>>
>> Since you are getting access denied while attempting to access your XP
>> machine, the problem is most likely on your XP machine, not your Vista
>> machine.
>>
>> If you see both a Sharing tab and a Security tab on your Windows XP
>> machine in the file properies screen, and the sharing tab includes
>> buttons that say "Permissions" and "Caching", you are using advanced
>> sharing.
>>
>> With advanced sharing turned on, you need to deal with both share
>> permissions AND security permissions.
>>
>> Share permissions do not actually ASSIGN permissions - they simply
>> specify that MAXIUMUM amount of permission someone accessing the share
>> can obtain over files while accessing that share.
>>
>> Securtity permissions via the Security tab actually assigns
>> permissions to the files/folders - these are what really count. If
>> someone doesn't have access to a folder via the security tab, it
>> doesn't matter what the share permissions say.
>>
>> ALso note that If you do not enter your Windows XP username and
>> password when connecting to your XP machine from your Vista machine
>> (and your username and password are different between your XP and
>> Vista machines), Windows XP doesn't know who you are and knows you
>> only as a "guest" or "everyone" as opposed to your username.
>>
>> This means that in this case, you will only be able to access
>> files/folders that list "everyone" as having the desired access on
>> their security tab.
>>
>> You can turn on simple sharing in XP from any explorer window by
>> clicking tools -> folder options -> View tab - > and checking "Use
>> simple file sharing (Recommended)"
>>
>> With simple file sharing, Windows XP takes care of both the sharing
>> and security permissions for you - you just specify whether you want
>> people accessing your share to be able to modify files or not.
>>
>> - JB
>>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:30:21 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
>> <vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>news:3ii4535qt4irpj1s2frbsjb7mjsr7sheul@4ax.com...
>>>> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
>>>> everyone permissions using the security tab, or enable
>>>> password-protection.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -JB
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
>>>> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:11 -0700, "Vic Spainhower"
>>>> <vicNoSpam@perfected.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have shared a folder on an XP machine which contains an Access
>>>>>Database
>>>>>that I'm trying to use on a Vista machine but it won;t let me access it.
>>>>>When I set the share I gave everyone full permissions. What else do I
>>>>>have
>>>>>to do to satisfy Vista?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Vic
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> If you're not using "easy" sharing then you'll also need to give
>>>> everyone permissions using the security tab,
>>>
>>>Jimmy - What is "easy" sharing?
>>>
>

"Jimmy Brush" wrote
> "Simple file sharing" is the file sharing mode that defaults in
> Windows XP Home (nor sure if it defaults in XP Pro).

<snip>

FYI, in XP Pro, the default is to use simple files haring.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Rock" wrote
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote
>> "Simple file sharing" is the file sharing mode that defaults in
>> Windows XP Home (nor sure if it defaults in XP Pro).
>
> <snip>
>
> FYI, in XP Pro, the default is to use simple files haring.


Lol, then again maybe just "simple file sharing".

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

I thought so, but I wasn't sure... I just kind of blew through those
dialogs until my sorely missed security tab reappeared

- JB

On Wed, 23 May 2007 18:54:04 -0700, "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote:

>"Rock" wrote
>> "Jimmy Brush" wrote
>>> "Simple file sharing" is the file sharing mode that defaults in
>>> Windows XP Home (nor sure if it defaults in XP Pro).
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> FYI, in XP Pro, the default is to use simple files haring.
>
>
>Lol, then again maybe just "simple file sharing".