Why is Security "Center" spelt this way for UK users?

"Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Surely it should be "Centre"?

Yorktown, Virginia, October 17, 1781 ;-)

"Hurricane" Andrew
Milford, DE

On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:47:00 -0700, CB <CB@discussions.microsoft.com>
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>Spelt?

n.
A hardy wheat grown mostly in Europe.

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Don't you worry about it BettyB, maybe that's spelt in Brittish... =D




"BettyB" <bettyb1656@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:47:00 -0700, CB <CB@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
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>>Spelt?
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> n.
> A hardy wheat grown mostly in Europe.
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> --
> BettyB -- www.flamingo-code.com
> "I have noticed even people who claim everything is
> predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it,
> look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking

Center is Center, Program is Program Etc. because my Grandaddys beat
your Grandaddys arse at Yorktown.
Dick Miller
Member of The Sons of the American Revolution.




Emill wrote:
> Don't you worry about it BettyB, maybe that's spelt in Brittish... =D
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> "BettyB" <bettyb1656@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7onh63dud5pspdlm5fsbuht5v1tt6victl@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:47:00 -0700, CB <CB@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Spelt?
>>
>> n.
>> A hardy wheat grown mostly in Europe.
>>
>> --
>> BettyB -- www.flamingo-code.com
>> "I have noticed even people who claim everything is
>> predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it,
>> look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking
>

"Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Surely it should be "Centre"?

Perhaps it should , but does it really compromise your security ?

Try posting in Microsoft.public.windows.vista.UKEnglish

They'll know for sure!

"Tom Crooze" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:13230F08-BC0D-4137-8DB9-246ABEE683C2@microsoft.com...
>> Surely it should be "Centre"?
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> Perhaps it should , but does it really compromise your security ?

Microsoft has yet to produce an English version of Windows.

They'll produce language packs for a language spoken by a few thousand
people, but not a sausage for the millions of English speakers (and here I'm
including not only the British variety, but its offshoots in the antipodes,
various parts of Africa, India and Pakistan, etc, etc - sorry to the ones I
forgot).

This despite having research establishments and significant commercial
operations in England and India.

Alun.
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 22:12:00 -0700, "Tom Crooze" wrote:
>"Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> Surely it should be "Centre"?
>
>Perhaps it should , but does it really compromise your security ?

I'd balance the risk/benefits, and prolly decide to go with the same
spelling if there are any downsides. As to whether center or centre
is current within UK and "dominion" English, that may be a moving
target. Have a look at Wikipedia's style guide on those things...

Even if the code is OK with arbitrary strings, there are off-PC
effects to consider, such as searching the Internet for particular
literal strings. It's one thing to create a parallel set of web pages
and /kb articles for completely different languages, but to do so
within the same language is to artificially break the ability of
speakers of the same language to share information.

For example, let's say I have a UK PC and I see an error like "The
Security Centre has stopped responding". I start a web browser and
enter that literal text, in quotes, and search for it. I get a few
hits, but the answer I'm looking for may be missed, if it used "The
Security Center has stopped responding" instead (e.g. an Americal user
had the same problem, solved it, and posted the solution).



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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:08:58 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)"
<cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote:

>On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 22:12:00 -0700, "Tom Crooze" wrote:
>>"Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
>>> Surely it should be "Centre"?
>>
>>Perhaps it should , but does it really compromise your security ?
>
>I'd balance the risk/benefits, and prolly decide to go with the same
>spelling if there are any downsides. As to whether center or centre
>is current within UK and "dominion" English, that may be a moving
>target. Have a look at Wikipedia's style guide on those things...
>
>Even if the code is OK with arbitrary strings, there are off-PC
>effects to consider, such as searching the Internet for particular
>literal strings. It's one thing to create a parallel set of web pages
>and /kb articles for completely different languages, but to do so
>within the same language is to artificially break the ability of
>speakers of the same language to share information.
>
>For example, let's say I have a UK PC and I see an error like "The
>Security Centre has stopped responding". I start a web browser and
>enter that literal text, in quotes, and search for it. I get a few
>hits, but the answer I'm looking for may be missed, if it used "The
>Security Center has stopped responding" instead (e.g. an Americal user
>had the same problem, solved it, and posted the solution).
>
kinda the same as you spelling the word 'spelled' "spelt", or me using
the word 'kinda' instead of 'kind of'. We put our choice into a search
engine and sometimes the right thing pops out, sometimes not.

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:15:22 GMT, f/fgeorge wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:08:58 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)"
>>On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 22:12:00 -0700, "Tom Crooze" wrote:
>>>"Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> Surely it should be "Centre"?

>>I'd balance the risk/benefits, and prolly decide to go with the same
>>spelling if there are any downsides.

>>Even if the code is OK with arbitrary strings, there are off-PC
>>effects to consider, such as searching the Internet for particular
>>literal strings .... let's say I have a UK PC and I see an error "The
>>Security Centre has stopped responding". I start a web browser and
>>enter that literal text, in quotes, and search for it. I get a few
>>hits, but the answer I'm looking for may be missed, if it used "The
>>Security Center has stopped responding" instead

>kinda the same as you spelling the word 'spelled' "spelt", or me using
>the word 'kinda' instead of 'kind of'. We put our choice into a search
>engine and sometimes the right thing pops out, sometimes not.

Sort of, but not really. I might write "kinda" but if I were
searching, I'd use the more proper "kind of".

More to the point; if searching for an error message or other dialog
text, I'd make a point of entering it *exactly* as it appears. If the
way it appears differs in one half of the English language sphere,
then I'm halving what I could be searching for.

I'm not dogmatic about this, BTW; I'm rather pointing out a potential
downside to the language fragmentation effect. My compromise would
probably be to use regional English in general contexts, but unify the
language within dialog boxes, error messages and other literals that
might be used as search biopsies.



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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:43:28 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)"
<cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:15:22 GMT, f/fgeorge wrote:
>>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:08:58 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)"
>>>On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 22:12:00 -0700, "Tom Crooze" wrote:
>>>>"Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
>>>>> Surely it should be "Centre"?
>
>>>I'd balance the risk/benefits, and prolly decide to go with the same
>>>spelling if there are any downsides.
>
>>>Even if the code is OK with arbitrary strings, there are off-PC
>>>effects to consider, such as searching the Internet for particular
>>>literal strings .... let's say I have a UK PC and I see an error "The
>>>Security Centre has stopped responding". I start a web browser and
>>>enter that literal text, in quotes, and search for it. I get a few
>>>hits, but the answer I'm looking for may be missed, if it used "The
>>>Security Center has stopped responding" instead
>
>>kinda the same as you spelling the word 'spelled' "spelt", or me using
>>the word 'kinda' instead of 'kind of'. We put our choice into a search
>>engine and sometimes the right thing pops out, sometimes not.
>
>Sort of, but not really. I might write "kinda" but if I were
>searching, I'd use the more proper "kind of".
>
>More to the point; if searching for an error message or other dialog
>text, I'd make a point of entering it *exactly* as it appears. If the
>way it appears differs in one half of the English language sphere,
>then I'm halving what I could be searching for.
>
>I'm not dogmatic about this, BTW; I'm rather pointing out a potential
>downside to the language fragmentation effect. My compromise would
>probably be to use regional English in general contexts, but unify the
>language within dialog boxes, error messages and other literals that
>might be used as search biopsies.
>
But we Americans left England for a new and better place a few hundred
years ago, why would we go back to using the old Mother Countries way
of doing things? We didn't like it then, why should we like it any
better now? I am NOT being ornery, just trying to say that the US has
its way of doing things and since MS is in the US, they do it the US
way. If your copy is setup as a UK version then I can see your
question and that would come down to a 'that seems strange' type of
question. Surely the Chinese versions don't spell it 'centre' or
'center'. Maybe it's something you could send to MS and say 'in the
future updates could you fix this'.