Acces to C:\Documents and Settings

I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista from
XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings folder. It
tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I have
all rights to the folder.

I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.

Thanks

db

In Vista, the "\Documents and Settings" folder that is there is redirected to
"\Users" instead. I'm not sure why it doesn't automatically redirect you to the
proper folder when you attempt to access it, but I'm guessing that it has
something to do with the fact that you upgraded from XP.
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Mark Dietz
PROnetworks <http://www.pro-networks.org>

DaddyBob wrote:
> I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista from
> XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings folder. It
> tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I have
> all rights to the folder.
>
> I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
> folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.
>
> Thanks
>
> db

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:11:01 -0700, DaddyBob wrote:

> I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista from
> XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings folder. It
> tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I have
> all rights to the folder.
>
> I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
> folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.
>
> Thanks
>
> db

Might need to take ownership of the files to regain access to them. The
directions in the following article are for XP but the steps are relatively
the same with Vista.

How To Take Ownership of a File or Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308421

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

The file system security in areas like that I have found quiet annoying too.
I'm a little paranoid to make any changes to that area as in the past when I
have with XP I've managed to lock myself or system accounts out of required
areas causing even greater issues.

What I find the strangest is that my account supposedly has full access to
my own profile directory, yet it's still needing to boost my security levels?
Also, why can I not see C:\Users\%username%\Application Data at all? I need
to guess at a directory under that if I want to go further.
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Bastard Sheep
http://bastardsheep.blogspot.com/


"Sharon F" wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:11:01 -0700, DaddyBob wrote:
>
> > I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista from
> > XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings folder. It
> > tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I have
> > all rights to the folder.
> >
> > I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
> > folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > db
>
> Might need to take ownership of the files to regain access to them. The
> directions in the following article are for XP but the steps are relatively
> the same with Vista.
>
> How To Take Ownership of a File or Folder
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308421
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
>

"c:\Documents and Settings" is now "c:\Users" and
"c:\Users\%username%\Application Data" is now "c:\Users\%username%\AppData".
And really, the later should be referenced as %appdata%, which goes one
level deeper into AppData where the real stuff is.

Ignore the old directories. They're there for some sort of backwards
compatibility and are just junction points to the real directories (do a dir
/ah in c:\ or your user directory to see). Hopefully they'll document what
purpose they serve now or add some more descriptive error dialog than
"Access Denied".


"Bastard Sheep" <BastardSheep@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:358203B6-FB1C-4E5B-A159-A2937364EF71@microsoft.com...
> The file system security in areas like that I have found quiet annoying
> too.
> I'm a little paranoid to make any changes to that area as in the past when
> I
> have with XP I've managed to lock myself or system accounts out of
> required
> areas causing even greater issues.
>
> What I find the strangest is that my account supposedly has full access to
> my own profile directory, yet it's still needing to boost my security
> levels?
> Also, why can I not see C:\Users\%username%\Application Data at all? I
> need
> to guess at a directory under that if I want to go further.
> --
> ---------------------
> Bastard Sheep
> http://bastardsheep.blogspot.com/
>
>
> "Sharon F" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:11:01 -0700, DaddyBob wrote:
>>
>> > I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista
>> > from
>> > XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings
>> > folder. It
>> > tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I
>> > have
>> > all rights to the folder.
>> >
>> > I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
>> > folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > db
>>
>> Might need to take ownership of the files to regain access to them. The
>> directions in the following article are for XP but the steps are
>> relatively
>> the same with Vista.
>>
>> How To Take Ownership of a File or Folder
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308421
>>
>> --
>> Sharon F
>> MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
>>

I'm willing to bet that this problem is caused simply by the fact that this
is a desktop shortcut. Delete it, and make a new one from the documents
folder in the start menu.

"Chris Altmann" wrote:

> "c:\Documents and Settings" is now "c:\Users" and
> "c:\Users\%username%\Application Data" is now "c:\Users\%username%\AppData".
> And really, the later should be referenced as %appdata%, which goes one
> level deeper into AppData where the real stuff is.
>
> Ignore the old directories. They're there for some sort of backwards
> compatibility and are just junction points to the real directories (do a dir
> /ah in c:\ or your user directory to see). Hopefully they'll document what
> purpose they serve now or add some more descriptive error dialog than
> "Access Denied".
>
>
> "Bastard Sheep" <BastardSheep@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:358203B6-FB1C-4E5B-A159-A2937364EF71@microsoft.com...
> > The file system security in areas like that I have found quiet annoying
> > too.
> > I'm a little paranoid to make any changes to that area as in the past when
> > I
> > have with XP I've managed to lock myself or system accounts out of
> > required
> > areas causing even greater issues.
> >
> > What I find the strangest is that my account supposedly has full access to
> > my own profile directory, yet it's still needing to boost my security
> > levels?
> > Also, why can I not see C:\Users\%username%\Application Data at all? I
> > need
> > to guess at a directory under that if I want to go further.
> > --
> > ---------------------
> > Bastard Sheep
> > http://bastardsheep.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > "Sharon F" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:11:01 -0700, DaddyBob wrote:
> >>
> >> > I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista
> >> > from
> >> > XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings
> >> > folder. It
> >> > tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I
> >> > have
> >> > all rights to the folder.
> >> >
> >> > I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
> >> > folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > db
> >>
> >> Might need to take ownership of the files to regain access to them. The
> >> directions in the following article are for XP but the steps are
> >> relatively
> >> the same with Vista.
> >>
> >> How To Take Ownership of a File or Folder
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308421
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sharon F
> >> MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
> >>
>

I am having the same problem. But after reading the responses to this post,
I thought I'd elaborate on it a bit, because it seems like some of the
responders might know the answer but are misunderstanding what is happening.
So forgive me if I'm wrong, but it's actually not simply an annoyance to me
but a big problem.

I use an IRC client called XChat. (Linux users and hardcores will know
about xchat.) Instead of having to go through and completely redo every
setting for this app, it saves a full day's work to simply copy over the
files which, in WinXP, are in the Docs&Sets\<user>\Application Data\Xchat2
folder to wherever the Vista equivilent is. As far as I can tell, it's in
the Users\<user>\Application Data\Xchat2 folder.

Unfortunately, even though my security level is "administrator", I cannot
even access my OWN Application Data folder. Just get the "Access Denied"
and that's it. (I can SEE it, with it's faded little coloring, smirking at
me in it's all-knowing way, but can't OPEN it.)

Now...I have gone in and (because that system is not yet connected to the
net) changed every permission for that folder I can find (and yes, there are
at LEAST 3 levels of it that I've found so far) even all the way to
"EVERYBODY" just to be able to get in there, and to no avail...it still
doesn't let me in.

Here's one way I can think of to get access: Log into the system as
"administrator" sort of like a linux user can log in as ROOT.
Unfortunately, I can't find a way to DO that. Can anyone help me out there?
I've even tried (with windows explorer) "run as administrator" and STILL
come up with the same result. How does one log in as administrator?

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"DaddyBob" <DaddyBob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E9EA0D5-8194-4607-A03C-BB634FB29D3B@microsoft.com...
|I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista
from
| XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings folder.
It
| tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I
have
| all rights to the folder.
|
| I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
| folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.
|
| Thanks
|
| db

BTW, I have gone into the computer management and UNclicked "account
disabled" and this has done nothing for me...

--
Takali S. Omega
Manager, Raven Mill Computers
Owner, SynTaks E-Works
Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
Intel Presler Pentium D 950
2GB OCZ DDR2-800
2x eVGA 7600 SLI
2x WD 250 SATA2
-------------------------------------


"DaddyBob" <DaddyBob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E9EA0D5-8194-4607-A03C-BB634FB29D3B@microsoft.com...
|I am the administrator, and there are no other users. I upgraded Vista
from
| XP. However, I cannot gain access the the C:\Document and Settings folder.
It
| tells me that I don't have the proper security, and yet, when I check I
have
| all rights to the folder.
|
| I do have acces to My Documents, but not the C:\Documents and Settings
| folder which I assume contans the My Docments folder.
|
| Thanks
|
| db

Hello,

I think the Application Data folder has been replaced by the AppData
folder... try looking in there, either the Roaming or Local folder, for the
settings you are looking for.

I believe the Application Data folder is there as some sort of application
compatability hack for programs, and is completely inaccessible from the
shell, administrator or not ... because it is not really a folder, just
there to point programs to the new location.

From my experience, any folder with a "ghosted" look and a shortcut icon
means that the folder has been replaced by a folder in a different location,
and the shell isn't nice enough to move you there when you double-click on
the shortcut

- JB

I tried the appdata folder. It does have part of the xchat files init, but
not the ones I need access to. They are still hiden, and as far as I know,
it's going to the folder everyone's trying to get to. I know the
application data folder in docs&sets is a pointer to another folder, but I
still think that the one needed is the application data folder inside the
user\<user> folder

--
Takali S. Omega
Manager, Raven Mill Computers
Owner, SynTaks E-Works
Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
Intel Presler Pentium D 950
2GB OCZ DDR2-800
2x eVGA 7600 SLI
2x WD 250 SATA2
-------------------------------------


"Jimmy Brush" <JimmyBrush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:577D851F-CE67-4934-AC54-878327BDA318@microsoft.com...
| Hello,
|
| I think the Application Data folder has been replaced by the AppData
| folder... try looking in there, either the Roaming or Local folder, for
the
| settings you are looking for.
|
| I believe the Application Data folder is there as some sort of application
| compatability hack for programs, and is completely inaccessible from the
| shell, administrator or not ... because it is not really a folder, just
| there to point programs to the new location.
|
| From my experience, any folder with a "ghosted" look and a shortcut icon
| means that the folder has been replaced by a folder in a different
location,
| and the shell isn't nice enough to move you there when you double-click on
| the shortcut
|
| - JB
|