Vista - I can't get data from my old HDD

My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
non-encrypted files though - help!!!

"Familydavis" <Familydavis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD,
> certain
> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
> non-encrypted files though - help!!!


The encryption wouldn't do much good if you could get the data, would it?

When you encrypted the original files, did you make an emergency recovery
disk with your key? If the encryption is any good, without that key, you
will never get your files back.

You have to take ownership of those files

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Peter

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"Familydavis" <Familydavis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news2D45495-C3A8-4426-A80E-4ADDAB3DAAAC@microsoft.com...
> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
> non-encrypted files though - help!!!

I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied. I've
tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
access is denied.

"Familydavis" wrote:

> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
> non-encrypted files though - help!!!

Familydavis wrote:
> I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied. I've
> tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
> access is denied.
>
> "Familydavis" wrote:
>
>> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
>> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
>> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
>> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
>> non-encrypted files though - help!!!

Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
take ownership:

1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
2. Click the Security tab.
3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions you
have.

To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
on permissions, see What are permissions?

http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr

To take ownership of a folder:

1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
click Properties.
2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner tab.
3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted for
an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide
confirmation.
4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects check
box.
6. Click OK


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Thanks for the advice, tried it all but no luck! Have now lost Video's of my
kids, all of my music and all of My Documents.
I even tried plugging my HDD into another machine and tried to boot that but
it wouldn't even go into safe mode.

"Malke" wrote:

> Familydavis wrote:
> > I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied. I've
> > tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
> > access is denied.
> >
> > "Familydavis" wrote:
> >
> >> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
> >> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
> >> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
> >> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
> >> non-encrypted files though - help!!!
>
> Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
> take ownership:
>
> 1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the Security tab.
> 3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions you
> have.
>
> To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
> on permissions, see What are permissions?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr
>
> To take ownership of a folder:
>
> 1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
> click Properties.
> 2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner tab.
> 3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted for
> an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide
> confirmation.
> 4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
> 5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
> this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects check
> box.
> 6. Click OK
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

Familydavis, give us some more information to work with. It
appears that if you want to be able to recover those files
you will have to get your old PC running.

You said it "blew up". Exactly what happened with it? Also,
what OS was in use on your old PC? What program or method
was used for the encryption? In regards to the hard drive
containing these files, was it the same drive as your
operating system or was it a separate drive?

Hobo



Familydavis wrote:

> Thanks for the advice, tried it all but no luck! Have now lost Video's of my
> kids, all of my music and all of My Documents.
> I even tried plugging my HDD into another machine and tried to boot that but
> it wouldn't even go into safe mode.
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>
>>Familydavis wrote:
>>
>>>I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied. I've
>>>tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
>>>access is denied.
>>>
>>>"Familydavis" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
>>>>files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
>>>>everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
>>>>'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
>>>>non-encrypted files though - help!!!
>>
>>Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
>>take ownership:
>>
>>1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
>>2. Click the Security tab.
>>3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions you
>>have.
>>
>>To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
>>on permissions, see What are permissions?
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr
>>
>>To take ownership of a folder:
>>
>>1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
>>click Properties.
>>2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner tab.
>>3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted for
>>an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide
>>confirmation.
>>4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
>>5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
>>this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects check
>>box.
>>6. Click OK
>>
>>
>>Malke
>>--
>>Elephant Boy Computers
>>www.elephantboycomputers.com
>>"Don't Panic!"
>>MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>

What you need to do in that case is to plug your trouble Hard Drive as a Slave into another computer. Plugging it in as a slave in addition to the installed Hard Drive , you should be able to get to your files.

--
Peter

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"Familydavis" <Familydavis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B126FB71-B27B-4E8B-AD0D-49EC03788EA9@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the advice, tried it all but no luck! Have now lost Video's of my
> kids, all of my music and all of My Documents.
> I even tried plugging my HDD into another machine and tried to boot that but
> it wouldn't even go into safe mode.
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>> Familydavis wrote:
>> > I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied. I've
>> > tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
>> > access is denied.
>> >
>> > "Familydavis" wrote:
>> >
>> >> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
>> >> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
>> >> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
>> >> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
>> >> non-encrypted files though - help!!!
>>
>> Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
>> take ownership:
>>
>> 1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
>> 2. Click the Security tab.
>> 3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions you
>> have.
>>
>> To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
>> on permissions, see What are permissions?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr
>>
>> To take ownership of a folder:
>>
>> 1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
>> click Properties.
>> 2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner tab.
>> 3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted for
>> an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide
>> confirmation.
>> 4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
>> 5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
>> this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects check
>> box.
>> 6. Click OK
>>
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:17:46 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:

> What you need to do in that case is to plug your trouble Hard Drive as a Slave into another computer. Plugging it in as a slave in addition to the installed Hard Drive , you should be able to get to your files.

I think you've missed the point from the original post that the OP is
referring to encrypted files. If these files were encrypted with EFS and
the original encryption keys are lost with no archive or backup of the keys
and no data recovery agent then the files are gone. None of the advice in
this thread about taking ownership or moving the drive to another system
are going to be of any help at all.

No I did not miss that. All I told the OP is that to get those files to show on his HD after he messed up with
putting that HD into another computer as the main is to install it as a slave so he can access those encrypted files again on his HD.
--
Peter

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"Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1w9c5cmhbj5nz.1ks9t6fud6n4e.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:17:46 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:
>
>> What you need to do in that case is to plug your trouble Hard Drive as a Slave into another computer. Plugging it in as a slave in addition to the installed Hard Drive , you should be able to get to your files.
>
> I think you've missed the point from the original post that the OP is
> referring to encrypted files. If these files were encrypted with EFS and
> the original encryption keys are lost with no archive or backup of the keys
> and no data recovery agent then the files are gone. None of the advice in
> this thread about taking ownership or moving the drive to another system
> are going to be of any help at all.