Saturday Eve

How do I completely disable UAC?

So, it doesnot stop programs from working/installing,......?

Esample: I have backup scripts request confirmation.

These are supposed to run when all us are to be sleeping.

Most of my clients' computers are not shared, are behind firewalls, do not
want to use passwords,....

I need to be able to stop this craziness.

How?



J

http://www.tweak-uac.com/
UAC explained and a little utility to help control it.

The rest are good information sources.

http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa906022.aspx

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win...9f44e1033.mspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa905108.aspx

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...C/default.aspx
Extremely detailed

"J" <Jnospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:ubm0xS35HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Saturday Eve
>
> How do I completely disable UAC?
>
> So, it doesnot stop programs from working/installing,......?
>
> Esample: I have backup scripts request confirmation.
>
> These are supposed to run when all us are to be sleeping.
>
> Most of my clients' computers are not shared, are behind firewalls, do not
> want to use passwords,....
>
> I need to be able to stop this craziness.
>
> How?
>
> J
>

Why not just use the built in backup wizard?

Sometimes the craziness is us not wanting to learn a new way of doing
things.

When you disable UAC "completely" you also disable the IE in protected
mode. That to me is more crazy.

J wrote:
> Saturday Eve
>
> How do I completely disable UAC?
>
> So, it doesnot stop programs from working/installing,......?
>
> Esample: I have backup scripts request confirmation.
>
> These are supposed to run when all us are to be sleeping.
>
> Most of my clients' computers are not shared, are behind firewalls, do
> not want to use passwords,....
>
> I need to be able to stop this craziness.
>
> How?
>
> J

In message <ubm0xS35HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> "J"
<Jnospam@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Esample: I have backup scripts request confirmation.
>
>These are supposed to run when all us are to be sleeping.

Then they should be services, not user-mode apps. Services run under
their defined permissions, without any permission restrictions.

--
You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word.

J wrote:

> Saturday Eve
>
> How do I completely disable UAC?
>
> So, it doesnot stop programs from working/installing,......?
>
> Esample: I have backup scripts request confirmation.
>
> These are supposed to run when all us are to be sleeping.
>
> Most of my clients' computers are not shared, are behind firewalls, do
> not want to use passwords,....
>
> I need to be able to stop this craziness.
>
> How?

It's a bad idea to disable security on your client's computers because
you don't know how to use Windows correctly.

Use scheduled tasks to run the program elevated. ("Run with highest
privilages").

Alun Harford

http://www.tweak-uac.com/
UAC explained and a little utility to help control it.

Thank you for this.

Thank you for your reply

> It's a bad idea to disable security on your client's computers because you
> don't know how to use Windows correctly.

Nice one.

What I do like about vista is, after some 13 years we finally are relieved
of all folder having to begin with "MY." Very stupid to file everything
under "M" don't ya know.

The new users folder is better. But programs are still allowed to bury data
files, making backups difficult. And third party programmers are still
allowed to add files to the windows folder, and so on.

> Use scheduled tasks to run the program elevated. ("Run with highest
> privilages").

These scripts are run as scheduled tasks with proper permissions. Using them
on wk3 server, ...

The need at this point is to allow the users to run them whenever then need:
backups before laptops are taken away, before running the end-of-month
processes, before new installations,...without having to be bothered to give
permission to the zip program.

J

Thank you for your response.

> Why not just use the built in backup wizard?

Consistency with existing machines, procedures, and documentation.

These scripts
create folders on a backup computer, named by user, source of files and
date and time
use zip to compress files
copy the compressed files to the named folder
generate a report of errors, if any

After all the files have been copied to the backup compter the tape unit
copies the main folder to tape.

> Sometimes the craziness is us not wanting to learn a new way of doing
> things.

When a new way adds only costs and no benefits it is good to avoid such
learning.

> When you disable UAC "completely" you also disable the IE in protected
> mode. That to me is more crazy.

No viruses, worms, ever,... in the four client's offices, where we use these
scripts. We have been using win 98 and 2k and xp, no problems. And now
vista, the most secure of all without UAC, is the most annoying because of
UAC.

I cannot help them if I also have to protect them from themselves in any
other way that to instruct them what to do, and to some extent, what not to
do. And the UAC, which appears to be mostly to stop them from doing that
which they already do not do, interferes with me helping them. It only adds
costs for us, no benefits.

This must be because we are unaware of such benefits. But we have asked many
questions. Read many articles. And played with vista for many months.

And we have yet to find a reason for having to click OK on 4 dialogs to add
a new folder and name it correctly. What are we missing?

J

Very welcome!

"J" <Jnospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u9YTlTx6HHA.2208@xxxxxx

>
> http://www.tweak-uac.com/
> UAC explained and a little utility to help control it.
>
> Thank you for this.