Chuckm07

I felt compelled to make a statement here -

As stated in the other thread you posted – YOU have a problem NOT related to updates.

I would advocate that it would be very fool hardy NOT to update Windows as security fixes and other important updates ensure the security, performance, and reliability of Windows. In my experience as well as countless others, those who choose not to update Windows are the ones who suffer the most with problems like spyware/malware, performance, and security issues.

Your statement here:

“My computer, with no spyware blocker and without a single update in two years, didn't not show a single instance of spyware previously.”

Coupled with this one from your previous post: Vista Outrage with updates

“I had refrained from installing SP1 for Vista Ultimate on my machine although curiosity got the better of me when I finally installed SP1 and, as one might guess, my system was wiped.”

Is hard to swallow!!! While I won't be so bold to say that this is impossible… I will say that the chances of this happening are slim to none!!!

Your problem is self created as you readily admit to not using a spyware blocker, nor doing updates for 2 years!!!

I’m out – no need to argue here.

Later

Hi chuckm07,

It is extremely foolhardy to run an unpatched version of Vista (or indeed any other OS). I take that you do have some form of AV software and that you (hopefully) keep that updated? If so, I fail to see the difference between keeping that updated and keeping your OS updated. Failure to keep either, or indeed both, patched and updated is asking for trouble - BIG TIME.

Originally Posted by chuckm07

I mentioned in another post that I haven't used Windows Updates in two years and that it's not crazy. The vast variety of Updates issues revolve around obscure fixes that affect only a small fraction of users. This supposedly excludes some of the security fixes. Upon turning on updates, my machine was immediately infected with spyware. Some of us are not programmers and can't spend alot of time trying to make windows work. We could ask then after restoring our computers a half dozen times, why wasn't it infected before turning on updates?! My computer, with no spyware blocker and without a single update in two years, didn't not show a single instance of spyware previously. This seems to me to be a valid question. The better question is : Why is the functionality of my computer affected? You buy software and it comes out of a box. You don't expect it to change it's "charter" over the internet or while you are not watching so that you don't know from one moment to the next if it's secure or not. Rant over.

how could you possibly know that your computer was not infected with spyware? since you have no spyware software installed to prevent it, i wouldnt like to see what you have on your computer, probably looks like McDonalds waste disposal service, i shall not rant, i shall express my opinion and tell you that windows defender cannot see spyware thats newer than the latest definitions update from windows update, since you have not installed any updates, your computer is a walking virus factory already, updates subsequently give you the ability to see the spyware. thusly making you believe that the updates are the spyware. i do not have antivirus installed on my system because its a gaming rig and performance is of high priority, i do notice a slowdown if my system is infected, and i have AV on standby if i need it.

Cheeeeez!! The little monkey with his bucket of mini-circuit boards, hasn't come back to play. Perhaps it did the decent and quit with virus-overload?

This is the same monkey that started another thred, time to give him a warning.

Originally Posted by roy69

This is the same monkey that started another thred, time to give him a warning.

Yeah I know Mate.....saw that too and put up similar. Somehow, I don't think that he will show again. Either naive or just downright bloodyminded stupid!!