Vista - WinFS release date

Hello again.
Could you say WinFS beta 2 delivery date or WinFS release date?
Thanks again.

--
Artem Ozornin, MCSD.NET

Hi Artem-

My name is Shan Sinha and I run evangelism for WinFS. We have not announced
a release date for WinFS. However, it will be released sometime after we
release Windows Vista.

However, Beta 2 will be released later this year.

Hope this helps!

Cheers-
Shan

Shan Sinha | WinFS
Microsoft Corp. | shan.sinha@microsoft.com



"Oz" <artem@sharpstyle.com> wrote in message
news:09797FB0-2588-4E3A-94D0-14FC826902F6@microsoft.com...
> Hello again.
> Could you say WinFS beta 2 delivery date or WinFS release date?
> Thanks again.
>
> --
> Artem Ozornin, MCSD.NET

Thank you, Shan. It's really help.
--
Artem Ozornin, MCSD.NET


"Shan Sinha" wrote:

> Hi Artem-
>
> My name is Shan Sinha and I run evangelism for WinFS. We have not announced
> a release date for WinFS. However, it will be released sometime after we
> release Windows Vista.
>
> However, Beta 2 will be released later this year.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Cheers-
> Shan
>
> Shan Sinha | WinFS
> Microsoft Corp. | shan.sinha@microsoft.com
>
>
>
> "Oz" <artem@sharpstyle.com> wrote in message
> news:09797FB0-2588-4E3A-94D0-14FC826902F6@microsoft.com...
> > Hello again.
> > Could you say WinFS beta 2 delivery date or WinFS release date?
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > --
> > Artem Ozornin, MCSD.NET
>
>
>

Have any of these dates changed since the latest vista announcement of
possibly not shipping till 2007?

I'm also glad to see some more activity on the forums...the forums have been
very dead since December, the blogs haven't been updated since 12/1/05, and I
was beginning to worry everyone has lost interest and winfs wasn't being
supported anymore.

We are trying to move forward with development, but without a strong
community and some idea when beta 2 would be coming out making forward
progress is very hard. We would hate to sink all of these development
resources into beta 1 to find beta 2 possibly changes so much. But with no
roadmap, updates via forums or blogs I am just grasping at straws of what may
or may not happen.

Sorry this got off track, but it seems the best place to post. Thanks again
and looking forward to a reply.


-ben

Hi Ben-

Thanks for your note. The Vista announcement does not affect our delivery
plans. Beta 2 continues to be planned for release later this year, as
described in my previous note. RTM plans also remain unchanged.

I hear your concern with lack of information on WinFS. I assure you that we
will continue to remain as accessible as we can via our blogs, newsgroups
and other community efforts. The idea guiding Beta 2 is that we intend for
it to be the build that developers can begin to adopt for their
applications, with a reasonable amount of assurance that they will be able
develop applications that do not become obsolete. Between Beta 1 and Beta2,
the changes we are making to the platform will be somewhat more substantial
than the changes we expect to see in builds coming beyond Beta 2.

As we mentioned in PDC, one of the big updates we will be including in Beta
2 is the integration of the ADO.NET programming interface. We will also be
updating the Item Data model. These two updates will cause some impact to
applications built with Beta 1. I'm certain that this was expected.
However, we believe that the updates we are making between Beta 1 and Beta
2 are the right ones and know that all those who adopt WinFS will benefit
from them. We continue to be interested in hearing about your experiences
with Beta 1 and about all the cool applications you are developing.

Shan

--
Shan Sinha [MSFT]
shans@online.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


"ben" <ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0CFE8A53-F665-4D02-B72B-C8E983FF1238@microsoft.com...
> Have any of these dates changed since the latest vista announcement of
> possibly not shipping till 2007?
>
> I'm also glad to see some more activity on the forums...the forums have
> been
> very dead since December, the blogs haven't been updated since 12/1/05,
> and I
> was beginning to worry everyone has lost interest and winfs wasn't being
> supported anymore.
>
> We are trying to move forward with development, but without a strong
> community and some idea when beta 2 would be coming out making forward
> progress is very hard. We would hate to sink all of these development
> resources into beta 1 to find beta 2 possibly changes so much. But with
> no
> roadmap, updates via forums or blogs I am just grasping at straws of what
> may
> or may not happen.
>
> Sorry this got off track, but it seems the best place to post. Thanks
> again
> and looking forward to a reply.
>
>
> -ben
>

Hello,

I hope it will not be like objectspaces !

A lot general information about what winfs is but very few informations on
how to use it.

Regards

"Shan Sinha [MSFT]" <shans@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: eyBql2gTGHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Ben-
>
> Thanks for your note. The Vista announcement does not affect our delivery
> plans. Beta 2 continues to be planned for release later this year, as
> described in my previous note. RTM plans also remain unchanged.
>
> I hear your concern with lack of information on WinFS. I assure you that
> we will continue to remain as accessible as we can via our blogs,
> newsgroups and other community efforts. The idea guiding Beta 2 is that
> we intend for it to be the build that developers can begin to adopt for
> their applications, with a reasonable amount of assurance that they will
> be able develop applications that do not become obsolete. Between Beta 1
> and Beta2, the changes we are making to the platform will be somewhat more
> substantial than the changes we expect to see in builds coming beyond Beta
> 2.
>
> As we mentioned in PDC, one of the big updates we will be including in
> Beta 2 is the integration of the ADO.NET programming interface. We will
> also be updating the Item Data model. These two updates will cause some
> impact to applications built with Beta 1. I'm certain that this was
> expected. However, we believe that the updates we are making between Beta
> 1 and Beta 2 are the right ones and know that all those who adopt WinFS
> will benefit from them. We continue to be interested in hearing about
> your experiences with Beta 1 and about all the cool applications you are
> developing.
>
> Shan
>
> --
> Shan Sinha [MSFT]
> shans@online.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
>
>
> "ben" <ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0CFE8A53-F665-4D02-B72B-C8E983FF1238@microsoft.com...
>> Have any of these dates changed since the latest vista announcement of
>> possibly not shipping till 2007?
>>
>> I'm also glad to see some more activity on the forums...the forums have
>> been
>> very dead since December, the blogs haven't been updated since 12/1/05,
>> and I
>> was beginning to worry everyone has lost interest and winfs wasn't being
>> supported anymore.
>>
>> We are trying to move forward with development, but without a strong
>> community and some idea when beta 2 would be coming out making forward
>> progress is very hard. We would hate to sink all of these development
>> resources into beta 1 to find beta 2 possibly changes so much. But with
>> no
>> roadmap, updates via forums or blogs I am just grasping at straws of what
>> may
>> or may not happen.
>>
>> Sorry this got off track, but it seems the best place to post. Thanks
>> again
>> and looking forward to a reply.
>>
>>
>> -ben
>>
>
>

Hi Jerome-

I assure you we are going much further than ObjectSpaces. Our primary
reason for not releasing as much information sooner rather than later is
that we are focused on ensuring that we deliver on everything what we
announce, rather than leaving ourselves in a position where may promise
something and are not able to deliver on it. I'm sure most of you
understand that to be an area where Microsoft's track record has opportunity
to improve!

Having said that, for those of you who have not already perused the team
blogs at http://blogs.msdn.mcom/winfs, it's a great place where we have
posted much content about what we are trying to build.

Cheers-
Shan

--
Shan Sinha [MSFT]
shans@online.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

"Jérôme Piquot" <jerome.piquot@wolff.fr> wrote in message
news:eoQrAZkTGHA.1672@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I hope it will not be like objectspaces !
>
> A lot general information about what winfs is but very few informations on
> how to use it.
>
> Regards
>
> "Shan Sinha [MSFT]" <shans@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message
> de news: eyBql2gTGHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Ben-
>>
>> Thanks for your note. The Vista announcement does not affect our
>> delivery plans. Beta 2 continues to be planned for release later this
>> year, as described in my previous note. RTM plans also remain unchanged.
>>
>> I hear your concern with lack of information on WinFS. I assure you that
>> we will continue to remain as accessible as we can via our blogs,
>> newsgroups and other community efforts. The idea guiding Beta 2 is that
>> we intend for it to be the build that developers can begin to adopt for
>> their applications, with a reasonable amount of assurance that they will
>> be able develop applications that do not become obsolete. Between Beta 1
>> and Beta2, the changes we are making to the platform will be somewhat
>> more substantial than the changes we expect to see in builds coming
>> beyond Beta 2.
>>
>> As we mentioned in PDC, one of the big updates we will be including in
>> Beta 2 is the integration of the ADO.NET programming interface. We will
>> also be updating the Item Data model. These two updates will cause some
>> impact to applications built with Beta 1. I'm certain that this was
>> expected. However, we believe that the updates we are making between
>> Beta 1 and Beta 2 are the right ones and know that all those who adopt
>> WinFS will benefit from them. We continue to be interested in hearing
>> about your experiences with Beta 1 and about all the cool applications
>> you are developing.
>>
>> Shan
>>
>> --
>> Shan Sinha [MSFT]
>> shans@online.microsoft.com
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights
>>
>>
>> "ben" <ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0CFE8A53-F665-4D02-B72B-C8E983FF1238@microsoft.com...
>>> Have any of these dates changed since the latest vista announcement of
>>> possibly not shipping till 2007?
>>>
>>> I'm also glad to see some more activity on the forums...the forums have
>>> been
>>> very dead since December, the blogs haven't been updated since 12/1/05,
>>> and I
>>> was beginning to worry everyone has lost interest and winfs wasn't being
>>> supported anymore.
>>>
>>> We are trying to move forward with development, but without a strong
>>> community and some idea when beta 2 would be coming out making forward
>>> progress is very hard. We would hate to sink all of these development
>>> resources into beta 1 to find beta 2 possibly changes so much. But with
>>> no
>>> roadmap, updates via forums or blogs I am just grasping at straws of
>>> what may
>>> or may not happen.
>>>
>>> Sorry this got off track, but it seems the best place to post. Thanks
>>> again
>>> and looking forward to a reply.
>>>
>>>
>>> -ben
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs

> blogs at http://blogs.msdn.mcom/winfs, it's a great place where we have

Some more links
http://craigrandall.net/archives/200...-is-winfs-api/
http://blog.blanar.net/index_Sessions.htm

WinFS: An Intro to the framework classes
http://codebetter.com/blogs/sahil.ma...16/136590.aspx

Roman

http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs seems like it's dead. Out of all the blogs I've
seen this one appears to be updated the least. Nothing new on there since
Feb. 24th.

"roman modic" wrote:

> http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs
>
> > blogs at http://blogs.msdn.mcom/winfs, it's a great place where we have
>
> Some more links
> http://craigrandall.net/archives/200...-is-winfs-api/
> http://blog.blanar.net/index_Sessions.htm
>
> WinFS: An Intro to the framework classes
> http://codebetter.com/blogs/sahil.ma...16/136590.aspx
>
> Roman
>
>
>

Hi Jack-

I assure you the blogs are not dead! We are still around. The team has
just been exceedingly busy working on Beta 2. In fact, as we speak, we are
currently getting ready for a handful of new posts to the blog. Stay tuned!

Cheers-

--
Shan Sinha [MSFT]
shans@online.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

"Jack" <Jack@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CC2BE374-2F5A-4C72-B898-C3B2A8264840@microsoft.com...
> http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs seems like it's dead. Out of all the blogs
> I've
> seen this one appears to be updated the least. Nothing new on there since
> Feb. 24th.
>
> "roman modic" wrote:
>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs
>>
>> > blogs at http://blogs.msdn.mcom/winfs, it's a great place where we have
>>
>> Some more links
>> http://craigrandall.net/archives/200...-is-winfs-api/
>> http://blog.blanar.net/index_Sessions.htm
>>
>> WinFS: An Intro to the framework classes
>> http://codebetter.com/blogs/sahil.ma...16/136590.aspx
>>
>> Roman
>>
>>
>>