Backing file name ?

New to WinFS. For now when I create an item, the file uses the guid for this
item. I don't see how to define the name (or rename the file) from within
WinFS.

TIA
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Patrice

Patrice-

The name of the fiel backed item is the logical name of the file as well.
For instance, if you need to open the file through a regular Win32 app (or
the XP-Shell), you will use the full UNC name of the item from Win32. WinFS
may use an internal GUID based name to store the backing file in NTFS, but I
do not believe you should directly use that name or program against it.

Does that answer your question?

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"Patrice" <scribe@chez.com> wrote in message
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> New to WinFS. For now when I create an item, the file uses the guid for
> this item. I don't see how to define the name (or rename the file) from
> within WinFS.
>
> TIA
> --
> Patrice
>
>
>

Yes, thanks.

I was rather thinking here from an end user perspective i.e. I would have
expected to see the DisplayName or something similar in the Windows explorer
so that the user can, for example, delete an item without even launching the
application that uses this item.

Similarly I was thinking about having a kind of specialized browser that
would allow to display properties for the various items while browsing.

Or perhaps users are not expected to browse WinFS volumes directly and would
rather always or mostly interact with items even for deletion,
organization, importation through applications ?

I noticed also that drag and drop between WinFS and an NTFS volume doesn't
work. I would have expected to have an automatic import/export here so that
a user can just move its item through a USB key and have them used by a
WinFS application once copied without any explicit importation in the
application...

A bit hard to figure out the intended way of using this as this is quite a
new paradigm.

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Patrice

"Simon Skaria [MSFT]" <simonsk@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message
de news: uZ0zbw%23XGHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Patrice-
>
> The name of the fiel backed item is the logical name of the file as well.
> For instance, if you need to open the file through a regular Win32 app (or
> the XP-Shell), you will use the full UNC name of the item from Win32.
> WinFS may use an internal GUID based name to store the backing file in
> NTFS, but I do not believe you should directly use that name or program
> against it.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> --
> Simon Skaria [MSFT]
>
> simonsk@microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
>
>
>
>
> "Patrice" <scribe@chez.com> wrote in message
> news:exdZ$J7XGHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> New to WinFS. For now when I create an item, the file uses the guid for
>> this item. I don't see how to define the name (or rename the file) from
>> within WinFS.
>>
>> TIA
>> --
>> Patrice
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hello,

If you want to change GUID's to comprehensive names use the item
NamespaceName.

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"Patrice" <scribe@chez.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
exdZ$J7XGHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> New to WinFS. For now when I create an item, the file uses the guid for
> this item. I don't see how to define the name (or rename the file) from
> within WinFS.
>
> TIA
> --
> Patrice
>
>
>

Patrice-

You are right. For all and any interaction with WinFS files, you will use
the Item namespace and APIs. In fact, moving forward we may block direct
access to the WinFS folder in SVI since it's purely an implementation
detail. There is not even an assurance/contract that we will preserve the
current layout of the NTFS folders moving forward.

thanks,
Simon

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"Patrice" <scribe@chez.com> wrote in message
news:%232bzhevYGHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yes, thanks.
>
> I was rather thinking here from an end user perspective i.e. I would have
> expected to see the DisplayName or something similar in the Windows
> explorer so that the user can, for example, delete an item without even
> launching the application that uses this item.
>
> Similarly I was thinking about having a kind of specialized browser that
> would allow to display properties for the various items while browsing.
>
> Or perhaps users are not expected to browse WinFS volumes directly and
> would rather always or mostly interact with items even for deletion,
> organization, importation through applications ?
>
> I noticed also that drag and drop between WinFS and an NTFS volume doesn't
> work. I would have expected to have an automatic import/export here so
> that a user can just move its item through a USB key and have them used by
> a WinFS application once copied without any explicit importation in the
> application...
>
> A bit hard to figure out the intended way of using this as this is quite a
> new paradigm.
>
> --
> Patrice
>
> "Simon Skaria [MSFT]" <simonsk@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le
> message de news: uZ0zbw%23XGHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Patrice-
>>
>> The name of the fiel backed item is the logical name of the file as well.
>> For instance, if you need to open the file through a regular Win32 app
>> (or the XP-Shell), you will use the full UNC name of the item from Win32.
>> WinFS may use an internal GUID based name to store the backing file in
>> NTFS, but I do not believe you should directly use that name or program
>> against it.
>>
>> Does that answer your question?
>>
>> --
>> Simon Skaria [MSFT]
>>
>> simonsk@microsoft.com
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Patrice" <scribe@chez.com> wrote in message
>> news:exdZ$J7XGHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> New to WinFS. For now when I create an item, the file uses the guid for
>>> this item. I don't see how to define the name (or rename the file) from
>>> within WinFS.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> --
>>> Patrice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>