Vista - What's the status of WPF/E

Hi,

I'm interested in Windows Presentation Foundation Everywhere (WPF/E) as an
alternative to Adobe Flex development. All the information and blogs that I
can find are from back in March to May. Has anything happened since then?
What tools do I need to develop in WPF/E, where do I get the CLR runtime,
etc.?

Thanks,

Mark

Hello Mark,

MB> I'm interested in Windows Presentation Foundation Everywhere (WPF/E)
MB> as an alternative to Adobe Flex development. All the information and
MB> blogs that I can find are from back in March to May. Has anything
MB> happened since then?

Nope, we are still awaiting first CTP version. But where - only MS knows,
but they are silent

MB> What tools do I need to develop in WPF/E,

In any XAML editor + JS editor. The idea is that u develop WPF app, embedded
WPFE component into HTML app, use JS to interact with that component.

MB> where do I get the CLR runtime, etc.?

It uses local WPF. WPF/E is just reincarnation of old "activeX".
U need the WPF on the local machine plus download WPFE addin for your browser
(IE/Firefox/Mozilla)

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WBR,
Michael Nemtsev :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not
cease to be insipid." (c) Friedrich Nietzsche

Hello Michael ,

mistype a little bit.
It doesnt use WPF and needn't it. It separate install.

MN> It uses local WPF. WPF/E is just reincarnation of old "activeX".
MN> U need the WPF on the local machine plus download WPFE addin for
MN> your browser
---
WBR,
Michael Nemtsev:: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not
cease to be insipid." (c) Friedrich Nietzsche

Michael,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, my understanding from the Channel 9 video was that there is (or will
be) a plug-in available so you can run WPF/E applications on Internet
Explorer, Firefox, and even Macintosh without needing the WPF to be
installed.

I think if you _do_ have WPF installed, then you can create a full-featured
"browser app" for IE, but that's no longer WPF/E.

Mark
"Michael Nemtsev" wrote:

> Hello Michael ,
>
> mistype a little bit.
> It doesnt use WPF and needn't it. It separate install.
>
> MN> It uses local WPF. WPF/E is just reincarnation of old "activeX".
> MN> U need the WPF on the local machine plus download WPFE addin for
> MN> your browser
> ---
> WBR,
> Michael Nemtsev:: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour
>
> "At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not
> cease to be insipid." (c) Friedrich Nietzsche
>
>
>

Hello Mark,

M> Yes, my understanding from the Channel 9 video was that there is (or
M> will be) a plug-in available so you can run WPF/E applications on
M> Internet Explorer, Firefox, and even Macintosh without needing the
M> WPF to be installed.

Yep, exactly. And they gonna ship the CTP to the end of this year

M> I think if you _do_ have WPF installed, then you can create a
M> full-featured "browser app" for IE, but that's no longer WPF/E.

If client *has* the WPF installed and IE is 6.* and above then the best idea
is to give user XBAP app, not the WPF/E.
Because XBAP realise about 98% of WPF features. And WPF/E probably have
less of them

M>
M> Mark
M> "Michael Nemtsev" wrote:
>> Hello Michael ,
>>
>> mistype a little bit.
>> It doesnt use WPF and needn't it. It separate install.
>> MN> It uses local WPF. WPF/E is just reincarnation of old "activeX".
>> MN> U need the WPF on the local machine plus download WPFE addin for
>> MN> your browser
>> ---
>> WBR,
>> Michael Nemtsev:: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour
>> "At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents
>> do not cease to be insipid." (c) Friedrich Nietzsche
>>
---
WBR,
Michael Nemtsev [C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not
cease to be insipid." (c) Friedrich Nietzsche

WPF has minimal (next to nothing) integration capabilities between the
browser and WPF application. This means that many of us have to wait for
WPF/E, which has this integration in order to use XAML in any web-based
application.

Shan

"Michael Nemtsev" <nemtsev@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1799a79b3c0ed68c8dcfa695acb4e@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello Mark,
>
> M> Yes, my understanding from the Channel 9 video was that there is (or
> M> will be) a plug-in available so you can run WPF/E applications on
> M> Internet Explorer, Firefox, and even Macintosh without needing the
> M> WPF to be installed.
>
> Yep, exactly. And they gonna ship the CTP to the end of this year
>
> M> I think if you _do_ have WPF installed, then you can create a
> M> full-featured "browser app" for IE, but that's no longer WPF/E.
>
> If client *has* the WPF installed and IE is 6.* and above then the best
> idea is to give user XBAP app, not the WPF/E.
> Because XBAP realise about 98% of WPF features. And WPF/E probably have
> less of them
>
> M> M> Mark
> M> "Michael Nemtsev" wrote:
>>> Hello Michael ,
>>>
>>> mistype a little bit.
>>> It doesnt use WPF and needn't it. It separate install.
>>> MN> It uses local WPF. WPF/E is just reincarnation of old "activeX".
>>> MN> U need the WPF on the local machine plus download WPFE addin for
>>> MN> your browser
>>> ---
>>> WBR,
>>> Michael Nemtsev:: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour
>>> "At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents
>>> do not cease to be insipid." (c) Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>
> ---
> WBR,
> Michael Nemtsev [C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour
>
> "At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do
> not cease to be insipid." (c) Friedrich Nietzsche
>
>