Vista freezing always after 10-15 minutes

guy9

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Hi,

I have problems with freezes in Vista Home Premium 32bits (SP1)
It arrived first a few days ago: After an hibernation of 4-5 hours, Vista was Freezed. I did a reboot. It restarted well. But since then I have ALWAYS a freeze after 10-15 minutes.
I must add that I have done hibernations for 6 month now without problems (because Vista freezed often already on shutdown) and I have done no modification (soft-hard) on the Pc.

It freezes about 5-15 minutes after Start depending on what I do.
It freezes also if I do nothing!
It freezes also if Aero, or Indexing disabled or whith a clean boot.
It freezes also on a safe mode start after loading the CRCcheck driver!
After a normal start CHKDSK is sometimes running automatically, and it says that it has repared 1-4 files.

I have consulted your site and this forum before posting and have done almost everything you recommend:
I have opened the box: no dust, no overheat.
I have made a check of the memory: all is ok!
I have made a check of the hard-disk : all is ok
I have verified the drivers: everything ok.
I have run Antivirus (AVG) : all ok
I have run Hijackthis for the Registry and analyzed : all is ok also here
I have run SFC: no problems
Also no malware and I do not overclock.

One track I have is : I cannot read the Event's Journal.
The Icon of he EVENTS OBSERVER in the Control Panel Administrative Tools has a yellow exclamation mark and a red cross and when I click on it there is an IMMEDIATE Freeze.
What does that mean? Where are those journal files situated?

Would be very thankful for any help.
Regards

Guy
 
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try a system file check, go to start search type cmd,hold shift and ctrl and press enter
Type sfc /scannow in the box that opens.
 

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try a system file check, go to start search type cmd,hold shift and ctrl and press enter
Type sfc /scannow in the box that opens.

Thanks, but I have done that already.
Had forgotten to mention it.

Guy
 

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    MSI Intel-P35
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    4 GByte RAM
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    MSI Geforce-9600GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LCD
    Hard Drives
    Western-Digita
In your start menu do you have administrative tools, If not, go to start right click in the blank space under help and support and click properties,start menu,customize.
Set this setting and see if you can get to event viewer from there.start menu options.JPG
 

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    Lenovo Thinkpad T400
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    LENOVO 64734VM
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    2.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 531MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
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    Conexant 20561 SmartAudio HD
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    1280 x 800
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    1x 180GB Intel 530 series SSD
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    1 x 650GB Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    1x 1Tb Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    Internet Speed
    Medium for New Zealand
    Other Info
    Weakest part of my computer is the graphics chipset.
    Only ever used a laptop.
    Also use USB Freeview TV Card
    Lenovo Docking Station
    External Speakers
    Other bits a pieces as needed
Hello Guy9, did you only do 1 sfc if so you need to do 3, each time you run your sfc it repairs more. First I want you to follow this.

Bring up your elevated command and type this.

Findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >%userfrofile%\Desktop\sfcdetails.txt

This should bring bring up and put your sfc report on your desktop from there you can upload it to us, also you should run your sfc command 3 times each time it makes repairs.

So please let us know when you are done, and send us the reports.

Tom
 

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In your start menu do you have administrative tools, If not, go to start right click in the blank space under help and support and click properties,start menu,customize.
Set this setting and see if you can get to event viewer from there.View attachment 22542
Thanks.
I have tried that. the result is the same: freeze.
I have attached a PICTURE of my Control-panel_Administrative tools window.
You can see that Events Observer ("Observateur d'événements", as I have French Vista version) is already BLOCKED there.
But where are those journal files situated? I could try a direct Access.

This mourning, when I started CHKDSK run automatically, but it did not find any bad files. So why did it start then?

Regards.

Guy
 

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    Core 2 Quad E8200
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    MSI Intel-P35
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    4 GByte RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Geforce-9600GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LCD
    Hard Drives
    Western-Digita
Do you have SP2 installed?
 

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    Lenovo Thinkpad T400
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    Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53GHz
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    LENOVO 64734VM
    Memory
    2.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 531MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
    Sound Card
    Conexant 20561 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 800
    Hard Drives
    1x 180GB Intel 530 series SSD
    1 x 120GB Hitachi 5400rmp
    1 x 650GB Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    1x 1Tb Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    Internet Speed
    Medium for New Zealand
    Other Info
    Weakest part of my computer is the graphics chipset.
    Only ever used a laptop.
    Also use USB Freeview TV Card
    Lenovo Docking Station
    External Speakers
    Other bits a pieces as needed
Do you have SP2 installed?

No. As I said in my iniyial message it's SP1.
And i think that i will no be able to install SP2, as the system freezes after about 10 minutes.

Guy
 

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    MSI Intel-P35
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    4 GByte RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Geforce-9600GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LCD
    Hard Drives
    Western-Digita
Hello Guy9, did you only do 1 sfc if so you need to do 3, each time you run your sfc it repairs more. First I want you to follow this.

Bring up your elevated command and type this.

Findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >%userfrofile%\Desktop\sfcdetails.txt

This should bring bring up and put your sfc report on your desktop from there you can upload it to us, also you should run your sfc command 3 times each time it makes repairs.

So please let us know when you are done, and send us the reports.

Tom
Thanks for the answer, Tom.
I think it's hopeless.
I have tried to make three passes of SFC/SCANNOW today (17 feb).
First at 10:12 : it ended with a crash (BSOD) after 65%.
Second at 10:27: freeze after 59%
Third at 10:38: freeze after 67%

Attached is the logging, where you have also the first run (14 feb).
Curiously it had found corrupted only those Speechengines modules, which I don't use.

Regards.

Guy
 

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    MSI Intel-P35
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    MSI Geforce-9600GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LCD
    Hard Drives
    Western-Digita

My Computer

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Thinkpad T400
    CPU
    Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53GHz
    Motherboard
    LENOVO 64734VM
    Memory
    2.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 531MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
    Sound Card
    Conexant 20561 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 800
    Hard Drives
    1x 180GB Intel 530 series SSD
    1 x 120GB Hitachi 5400rmp
    1 x 650GB Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    1x 1Tb Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    Internet Speed
    Medium for New Zealand
    Other Info
    Weakest part of my computer is the graphics chipset.
    Only ever used a laptop.
    Also use USB Freeview TV Card
    Lenovo Docking Station
    External Speakers
    Other bits a pieces as needed
You will have to do a repair install or fresh install.
Do you have the install disc. Can you get access to a computer with a burner?
Repair disc may work or you could burn a live linux cd and boot with that to remove any files you want to keep and do a fresh install.

Repair Install For Vista

Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista

Tutorials thanks to Brink

SystemRescueCd
Thanks.
I have the Vista Install CD.

I had thought to do eventually a CUSTOM INSTALL , as Repair Install will surely
not work because of the freeze, and with Custom install ALL of my old data will be saved in the folder WINDOWS.OLD so that I can easily recover them.
I have discussed this already with BRINK in the Repair Install For Vista Forum.

But I would be happy if I could avoid this. Is there really no way?

Regards.

Guy
 

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System One

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    Medion P7300 D
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    Core 2 Quad E8200
    Motherboard
    MSI Intel-P35
    Memory
    4 GByte RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Geforce-9600GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LCD
    Hard Drives
    Western-Digita
Finally I did neither do a fresh nor a repair install. At least until now.
After some more research on your and other sites, as the system freezed immediatly when I accessed the EVENTS OBSERVER, I decided to desactivate the WINDOWS EVENT LOG server.
After that I had no more freezes! (but the Pc was a bit slower).
I passed then three SFC/SCANNOW which found NOTHING.
AFter some more studies I found that a frequent problem with VISTA is CORRUPT EVENT JOURNAL LOG files and that in this case the best is to DELETE them. Vista will recreate them aftewards.
So that is what I did:

run cmd.exe with administrative privileges and then:
del C:\Windows\System32\Winevt\Logs\*.* ( 53 files!)

Then I set the EVENT LOG server again on AUTOMATIC (with Administrative Tools). (and rebooted)
Now the PC runs perfect again for hours. No more FREEZES and I can Access the Event Journal logs with the Administrative tools without problems.

When I do a SAFE BOOT the system still seems to freeze after loading CRCDISK.
I hope to get that sorted out also sometime.
For the moment it is not a big problem as the system runs well otherwise.
I have learned much about Vista with this!

Guy
 

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    4 GByte RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Geforce-9600GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LCD
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    Western-Digita
?!

I Just signaled in my last message that I have NO MORE FREEZING now

after

DELETING THE EVENT JOURNAL LOG files.


Guy
 

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    MSI Geforce-9600GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LCD
    Hard Drives
    Western-Digita
Missed that, sorry
 

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