Frequent & Random BSOD codes

emmark22

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Hello,

General System Information: (More details in zip.)
Manufacture: HP
Model: m8300f
Processor: Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 6000+ 3.00Ghz
RAM: 3Gb
Windows: Vista Home Premium 32bit

Over the past year we have had only a couple of BSOD. Then after reboot system resumed to operate normally. But over the last month we have experienced frequent crashes with random BSOD's daily/hourly. Each with different codes. I have updated everything that I can think of, BIOS, GPU, Windows etc. Nothing seemed to work. So I wiped and reinstalled vista. Re-updated everything and same result. Windows is the original that came with system and we are not running any crazy software. I have ran all of the suggested bootable memory checks (20 passes) and HD checks as well with no errors.

Not sure where to go next and wanted to get some additional eyes to help decode some of the errors. I am leaning more to a hardware issue but am new to diagnosing all of the potentials.

To add, I have noticed after system has been powered down over night that I have the most problems until heat builds in the system. On first boot, it wont get past the initial HP boot screen. Some times looking very fragmented. After restart it will go a bit further and then lock. Eventually after a few more attempts it will load in all the way. If it is set to go to sleep, then after waking it will go to BSOD. If left running it tend to hold longer with out crashing. But it will happen other times randomly.

Please let me know if you would like any other information being new to the board!

Thanks
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Hey and thanks for the reply.

I am with you in thinking that it is hardware. I have run memtest86+ on different attempts for 10-20 passes and did not get any errors. But after reading through the tutorial did not try each stick individually. I only ran with all installed. SO I will start the process of going through each RAM separately to see if I can find anything.

I will post once complete!
 

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Alright here is an update....

I removed all of the RAM and have run multiple passes on each stick individually and have returned no errors. Later this evening I will rerun tests on each DIMM slot to see if anything pops up with that.

If there is an issue with a DIMM socket, and I rerun the test individually with each socket, will Memtest catch that?

If after running each Socket I find no errors. What would be the next suggested step. Could there possibly be any link to an onboard GPU issue. If so should I try and acquire a PCI Express card to bypass the onboard video card? Just trying to think through all of the options.

Let me know! Thanks
 
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Post back the results and I will give you the next step. Memtest is one of the best tests. If there is a problem it should be caught.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Proceeding with the Torture test next.

But to keep you updated here is the progression it took to get back up:
On 1st boot attemp: Had a solid system beep with a black screen
2nd: Black screen with no activity
3: Had the HP Boot screen no activity
4: Had fragmented HP Screen and it locked on it (see attached picture)
5: As windows bar began to scroll it locked
6: Bypassed system repair to start normally
Now we are up....

I will let you know CPU & HD status once ran.
 

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Ok here is where I am at. I have run the torture test and so far I have not seen any errors.

Now I did get this message on CPU 1 when the program auto started after boot up. But I am not getting this with the Torture Test. Also how many times should I allow the Torture test to run through? I don't want to harm anything by letting it run to long.

[Nov 3 20:32] Worker starting
[Nov 3 20:32] Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #1
[Nov 3 20:32] Resuming primality test of M27370381 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 1440K, Pass1=384, Pass2=3840
[Nov 3 20:32] Iteration: 776963 / 27370381 [2.83%].
[Nov 3 20:32] Possible hardware errors have occurred during the test! 1 ROUNDOFF > 0.4.
[Nov 3 20:32] Confidence in final result is fair.

Torture Test Results:

[Nov 3 20:32] Worker starting
[Nov 3 20:32] Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #1
[Nov 3 20:32] Resuming primality test of M27370381 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 1440K, Pass1=384, Pass2=3840
[Nov 3 20:32] Iteration: 776963 / 27370381 [2.83%].
[Nov 3 20:32] Possible hardware errors have occurred during the test! 1 ROUNDOFF > 0.4.
[Nov 3 20:32] Confidence in final result is fair.
[Nov 3 20:33] Stopping primality test of M27370381 at iteration 777947 [2.84%]
[Nov 3 20:33] Worker stopped.
[Nov 3 20:33] Worker starting
[Nov 3 20:33] Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #1
[Nov 3 20:33] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Nov 3 20:33] Please read stress.txt. Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Nov 3 20:33] Test 1, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8716289 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:36] Test 2, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8716287 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:38] Test 3, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8516289 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:41] Test 4, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8316287 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:44] Test 5, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8257537 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:47] Test 6, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8257535 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:49] Self-test 448K passed!


[Nov 3 20:32] Waiting 5 seconds to stagger worker starts.
[Nov 3 20:32] Worker starting
[Nov 3 20:32] Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #2
[Nov 3 20:32] Optimal P-1 factoring of M55138439 using up to 8MB of memory.
[Nov 3 20:32] Assuming no factors below 2^71 and 2 primality tests saved if a factor is found.
[Nov 3 20:32] Optimal bounds are B1=740000, B2=740000
[Nov 3 20:32] Chance of finding a factor is an estimated 2.42%
[Nov 3 20:32] Using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 3M, Pass1=768, Pass2=4K
[Nov 3 20:33] M55138439 stage 1 is 33.04% complete.
[Nov 3 20:33] Worker stopped.
[Nov 3 20:33] Worker starting
[Nov 3 20:33] Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #2
[Nov 3 20:33] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Nov 3 20:33] Please read stress.txt. Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Nov 3 20:33] Test 1, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8716289 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:36] Test 2, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8716287 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:39] Test 3, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8516289 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:42] Test 4, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8316287 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:44] Test 5, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8257537 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:47] Test 6, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8257535 using AMD K8 type-3 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 20:49] Self-test 448K passed!
 

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Download speed fan and monitor the temps with torture test. Overheating may become a problem is not watched.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Ok so once I download this should I try running again and for how many cycles? Also you mentioned watching the heat side of things. Is there a temp that I should be watching for to stop the test?

Oh, also HD tests came back fine...
 

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Now when trying to run Torture I got this:

[Nov 3 21:45] Worker starting
[Nov 3 21:45] Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #1
[Nov 3 21:45] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Nov 3 21:45] Please read stress.txt. Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Nov 3 21:45] Test 1, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8716289 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 21:45] FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
[Nov 3 21:45] Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
[Nov 3 21:45] Torture Test completed 0 tests in 0 minutes - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
[Nov 3 21:45] Worker stopped.


[Nov 3 21:45] Worker starting
[Nov 3 21:45] Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #2
[Nov 3 21:45] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Nov 3 21:45] Please read stress.txt. Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Nov 3 21:45] Test 1, 9000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M8716289 using AMD K8 type-2 FFT length 448K, Pass1=448, Pass2=1K.
[Nov 3 21:45] FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
[Nov 3 21:45] Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
[Nov 3 21:45] Torture Test completed 0 tests in 0 minutes - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
[Nov 3 21:45] Worker stopped.
 

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The only thing that the stress test does is confirm a hardware problem and in your case it did. Now we have to test to see exactly what the problem is.
Does not make much difference anymore, but they say about 90 degrees.
I have to run now, but check back tomorrow or later tonight for tests to try to determine the hardware problem.
For starters try the Seven upgrade center see if it picks up a problem.
Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor - Download - Microsoft Windows
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
If I dont post tonight. Just post anything to remind me. I get a notice when a post is made.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Lets test for the video card
FurMark Video Stress Test - free from here: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
FurMark Setup:
- If you have more than one GPU, select Multi-GPU during setup
- In the Run mode box, select "Stability Test" and "Log GPU Temperature"
Click "Go" to start the test
- Run the test until the GPU temperature maxes out - or until you start having problems (whichever comes first).
- Click "Quit" to exit
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Right after I ran the last Torture test I went to google and started to do a search and it went to BSOD. "Memory Management" and was 0x0000001A. I have attached the most current dump files if you need them for any reason.

I will run the FurMark test again, but it is not reading the GPU Temp. I also noticed that with the Speed Fan program as well. Is that normal or is there something I am missing?
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
I grabbed FurMark 1.9.0 and the most current on Speedfan. They both have the GPU temp indicator but both read 0C.

Could there be a setting that I am missing to turn on, or could the temp sensor on the MB be messed up?
 

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I dont think that you did something wrong. To test, try using speed fan without furmark. Do you get a reading. If not Ill get another temp sensor for you, if I can.
Speed fan is not compatible with all cards
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
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