vista support ended / ending? best choice for desktop os (small form factor pc)


  1.    31 Dec 2016 #11
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    Re: vista support ended / ending? best choice for desktop os (small form factor pc)


    I agree with Vistaar on your processor - it is a very weak one and would perform best on XP which requires considerably less resources than Vista. 7 might give you slightly better performance but your processor isn't good for anything more than web browsing. I dislike 8 due to the UI but some people get around that. Also I don't trust M$'s newest version of spyware and I'm not too confident they will change their data collection policies with any future versions. Personally I doubt that I will be using any version higher than 7 on my personal system. A legit copy of 7 will be hard to find now. If you are interested in that path you will have to buy from a private seller and hope that it isn't a pirated or over utilized copy. You can certainly stay on Vista but as mentioned hardware and software compatibility is already starting to drop. You will also have to be very careful on the internet with very few additional patches especially when browser support ends and you really should stop using it on the net when antivirus support ends. On the other hand it is more secure than XP. There is also the option of installing Linux if you are up to the change. Just some considerations.
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  2.    03 Jan 2017 #12
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    I have had Windows update turned off for months and I use Pale Moon and have had no problems yet
    I will switch to Linux when I feel my system is unsafe.
    I have Mint on one bootable USB and Kali on another and use them both with my Vista based laptop.
    I'm just getting to know the different systems and getting ready for the switch over.
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  3.    03 Jan 2017 #13
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    I'm on the same boat with ilikefree, I installed debian to my laptop a while back and am close to doing the same thing to my desktop.

    I've heard many people facing multiple problems with computers that are upgraded to w8.1/10, if I were you I'd hop on to the ubuntu world, I'm sure your computer would like it too, considering the specs you gave.
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  4.    11 Jan 2017 #14
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    Re: vista support ended / ending? best choice for desktop os (small form factor pc)


    Quote Originally Posted by billybellfoot View Post
    hi i am currently a vista user but am looking to move to another OS due to support ending from MS and developers (chrome etc) so my question is 3 part,
    1. can i feasible stay on vista if so for how long ?
    2. if best to change from vista do i move to seven for desktop experience even though support for that will end soon
    3. if none of the above what is most suitable OS for my small ff pc win 8.1 or win 10? (acer revo 3600 Intel Atom N230 - 1.6 GHz Processor 4gb ram nvidia ion graphics currently installed a 320gb mech drive but have ssd spare.)

    thanks for reading
    I don't see any reason with current PC hardware, to upgrade only the OS.

    Taking a look at min. system requirements, Vista min. requirements for CPU, and memory are less than 7, 8 and 10. More recent OS's such as 8 & 10 IMO are able to take advantage of more modern PC architectures. If your PC was originally designed for and under XP and Vista. I don't see any reason to upgrade only the OS.

    If your PC was originally was bundled with Windows 7 I can see possibly upgrading only the OS to 8 or 10.

    If you have a copy of 8 or 10 you could possibly perform a test run, installing 8 or 10 to determine differences in how the PC behaves and responds

    The PC I'm running Vista on is approx. 10 years old purchase new back in 07. Before upgrading to Windows 8 or 10 I would first upgrade to a newer PC architecture. Which would mean for me a third PC. Currently I maintain two pcs and two laptops.

    Minimum Windows Operating System Requirements

    note: "minimum system requirements" doesn't mean the OS is going to run well when installed on a PC with minimum or close to minimum system requirements. It also doesn't address issues with various PC architectures, used with memory, cpu, hard drive, video, etc.

    Windows XP (is another choice to switch to)


    • Pentium 233-megahertz (MHz) processor or faster (300 MHz is recommended)
    • At least 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM (128 MB is recommended)
    • At least 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available space on the hard disk.


    Windows Vista

    800-megahertz (MHz) 32-bit (x86) processor or 800-MHz 64-bit (x64) processor.
    512 megabytes (MB) of system memory. ...
    DirectX 9-class graphics card.
    32 MB of graphics memory.
    20-gigabyte (GB) hard disk that has 15 GB of free hard disk space.


    Windows 7

    1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor*
    1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
    16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
    DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.

    Windows 8.1

    Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster.
    RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)
    Hard disk space: 16 GB (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
    Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver.

    Windows 10

    Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster.
    RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)
    Free hard disk space: 16 GB.
    Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver.
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  5.    11 Jan 2017 #15
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    The MS Upgrade Readiness Tools may be of help. If you are going to 7 SP1, it's good until 2020, 8.1 is the only "8" that's current now but 10 is far better and IMHO less burdensome on resources.
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  6.    12 Jan 2017 #16
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    I don't put any stock in Windows system requirements, especially the minimum which in my opinion account only for running the OS with as much turned off as possible and doesn't consider other installed programs many of which have their own processes running all the time. 7's "requirements" are a little more accurate than Vista's but some find that it runs a slightly smaller foot print than Vista. For any version it is best to go by recommended requirements as the minimum specs for your computer with better specs if possible. This is especially true of ram and I wouldn't go without a minimum of 2 gb as the amount of ram impacts everything. I find that looking at specs is more accurate when looking at the applications used instead of the Windows version. The OP easily has sufficient ram unless they plan on running large apps, do video editing, are heavy gamers, or use virtual machines. As I mentioned the CPU is the system's weak point. A 1.6 ghz single core processor is only good for what I like to refer to as light computing - web browsing, music, viewing small videos or dvd's, light games, office, etc. It is a cheap processor designed for an economic computer and is best for XP (or lower) or linux and not for Vista and higher. Expect slowness no matter which version of Windows you use if you upgrade or even stay on Vista and try not to do too many tasks at once. If the OP is fine with current performance it should matter very little if he wants to put 7 on it. I can't speak for 8 or 10 though.
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  7.    12 Jan 2017 #17
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    What townsbg stated is true and to the point.

    Running Vista x64 on a PC with an Intel Core(TM) 2 CPU 6400 2.13 Ghaz 800 HHz with 4 gigs main memory. Vista runs ok but sometime becomes dead slow while running some applications and/or with multiple apps open.

    What I do to step-up performance is to run a memory program such as e.g. Wise Memory Optimizer.

    I'm not certain with this hardware if Vista x64 (vs x86) is a better choice as it requires more system resources.

    Some PC I've upgraded by upgrading the CPU and sometimes have upgraded to a faster memory. Some PC motherboards are able to accept later and other versions of a CPU (and memory) which potentially will improve performance. You need to look at the motherboard's specs to determine which cpus it will accept.

    I've sometimes have upgraded the motherboard rather than upgrading only the cpu.

    Other specs to look at are the FSB (front side bus) and BSB (back side bus) (if used). "Front side" refers to the external interface from the processor to the rest of the computer system, as opposed to the back side, where the back-side-bus connects the cache (and potentially other CPUs). This spec your pretty much stuck with, however it's possible and potentially fairly inexpensive to upgrade to a later version of your motherboard with a faster FSB and BSB (if used). Or go to completely different motherboard if it will fit into your PC case. Some cases because of the shape and design of the motherboard it may difficult to switch over to different type or brand of mb.

    I've also upgraded to better performance HDD hard drives. I've read some PC users have significantly improved a PC performance by replacing their main hard drive with a solid state drive. SDD's will speed up your computer, however there are advantages and disadvantages when comparing SSDs with HDDs.

    SSD vs. HDD: What's the Difference? | PCMag.com

    The video adapter is another piece of hardware to take a look at. Specification of video adapters vary quite a bit, better & faster adapter often will have a better cpu and more memory.

    Many PCs including my Vista PC, the built-in motherboard video adapter has only min memory and cpu. I could improve performance by disabling the built-in video adapter and installing a better performing video adapter into a free PCI slot.
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  8.    13 Jan 2017 #18
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    I'm not so sure that this computer is even worthy of a hardware upgrade as newer hardware won't come with Vista drivers and might not come with 7. The same can be said for a new GPU. A ram upgrade might be do-able but for light uses the OP already has a sufficient amount and it appears that he is already at the motherboard's max capacity. I was unable to find out what the socket is but unless there is a dual core processor using the same socket a cpu upgrade would offer very little advantage. Looking at the system upgrading would likely be very difficult to due to the size and design. The good news is that the 3610 has a dual core processor so perhaps the cpu can be upgraded.
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  9.    06 Feb 2017 #19
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    I personally am staying on Vista. I have tried 7, 8, 10, but I keep going back to Vista. It's just a nicer OS.

    Cheers
    Josh
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