vista support ended / ending? best choice for desktop os (small form factor pc)


  1.    28 Dec 2016 #1
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    vista support ended / ending? best choice for desktop os (small form factor pc)


    hi i am currently a vista user but am looking to move to another OS due to support ending from MS and developers (chrome etc) so my question is 3 part,
    1. can i feasible stay on vista if so for how long ?
    2. if best to change from vista do i move to seven for desktop experience even though support for that will end soon
    3. if none of the above what is most suitable OS for my small ff pc win 8.1 or win 10? (acer revo 3600 Intel Atom N230 - 1.6 GHz Processor 4gb ram nvidia ion graphics currently installed a 320gb mech drive but have ssd spare.)


    thanks for reading
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  2.    28 Dec 2016 #2
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    Yes you can stay on Vista. Your major problem, in my opinion, is that without support and updates, you will be a prime target for hacking etc. You will probably be prone to virus and malware. You passwords etc may be endangered.

    I would move to 10. I would join our 10 Forum, for support and help.
    http://www.tenforums.com.
    I would not get involved in an Operating System that already is receiving only security updates.

    I am using 10 and it is not a power hog and, in my opinion it is an awesome operating system. I personally, like it better than Seven. I never used 8.
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    Re: vista support ended / ending? best choice for desktop os (small form factor pc)


    hi rich

    thanks for support,
    yes this is why i thought best to move i did try to search a upgrade advisor to see if my machine hardware was compatible but couldnt find one for win 10.
    thanks again
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  4.    28 Dec 2016 #4
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    There's no clear path for upgrading Vista to 10 (or 8.1 for that matter) so it's not surprising you couldn't find one.
    What I did was upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 which is good until 2020. That is in turn upgradable to 10.
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    When you think about all the people still using XP without any problems I doubt you will be at risk of attack if you continue to use Vista.
    Problems you are likely to face will be more about new programs not supporting Vista with drivers etc.
    If you have all the programs you will ever use, don't worry.
    Of course you could always switch to Linux Mint Cinnamon which is very much like Vista
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  6.    29 Dec 2016 #6
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    The question of whether and for how long a Vista system can safely remain online is certainly uppermost on my mind these days, and will no doubt be a major topic of discussion here long after those hard-to-get security patches finally come to an end after April 11. As ilikefree points out, the millions of people who are still running XP have thus far fared surprisingly well, perhaps largely due to continued support from antivirus software and browsers. Most antivirus software still supports Vista, with a number of exceptions (Vista No Longer Supported by Some Security Software). In my opinion, the greatest threat we face is that major browsers are ending support for XP and Vista simultaneously. We've all heard about Chrome, and now Firefox is planning to move XP and Vista users to an ESR that may no longer be supported after September 2017 (Update on Firefox Support for Windows XP and Vista), and of course our obsolescent Internet Explorer 9 will be unsupported after April 11. Certain minor browsers and/or software such as Sandboxie might be our last resort.

    I have to agree with rich46 that it's a little late in the game to jump on the Windows 7 bandwagon. On the other hand, it is extremely similar to Vista; and it has a huge user base, so software makers will continue to support it long after Microsoft abandons it, just as they did with XP. (Windows 8.1 on the other hand may suffer a fate similar to Vista.) As Ex_Brit points out, "there's no clear path for upgrading Vista to 10." Even if you successfully upgrade to 7, the free Windows 10 upgrade offer expired on July 29 - and I didn't fail to notice that a large majority of Win7 users rejected that, which has got to tell you something. If the past is any guide, another version of Windows will appear in 2018. Mainstream support for Win10 is scheduled to end in October 2020 despite last summer's Anniversary Update, which evidently did not count as a service pack or "8.1" for lifecycle purposes. Personally, I'm in no mood to reward Microsoft by buying Win10, and not intending to buy another PC until Windows 11. If I should conclude that Vista is too insecure for online purposes, I might take it offline and rely on mobile devices or perhaps buy a Chromebook for surfing the internet. Then again, our old hardware could fail at most any time...
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  7.    30 Dec 2016 #7
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    I'll be of a different opinion, and this won't win well over those who wish to stick staunchly with Microsoft's support policies. To continue though, I am dealing here with x64 Vista only, not x86 (or 32-bit). Is that a problem?

    I cannot in good conscience recommend Windows 10. A great deal of customization is out the window, and besides, every time an update comes, it resets a good deal of them. Also Microsoft is slowly moving everything to its Modern UI, and while I applaud them for their efforts to get in to the mobile stream of things, it's really too late for them. It's a Google/Apple world when it comes to phones and tablets.

    You actually could stay with Vista. Chances are once April 2017 hits, you'll be able to download updates for Server 2008 (the initial release) from the Microsoft Update Catalog and install those updates. They WILL install. Over at MSFN Forums, a few of us have done this successfully for a year with Windows 8 (which I'll get to in a moment). So until January 2020, you could patch Vista with codebase-identical updates from Server 2008. Your only issue will be can you run whatever applications you need to use? Support for many browsers is disappearing. But there are still a couple options.

    The next best thing would be to move to Windows 8, and by that I don't mean Windows 8.1. I mean the out of support Windows 8. I use the x64 build as my daily driver. I have been installing security and flash updates from Windows Server 2012 (initial release) since February, and it's gone without a hitch. In fact the update filenames shows as Windows8-RT-KBxxxx. There's a whole thread on this at MSFN. One really good thing is that you escape all of the telemetry updates that Windows 7 and 8.1 users have to content with. The bad thing is, no start menu - HOWEVER !!!!!! - just install Classic Shell and you're golden. Plus it can be upgraded over Vista. And it is a touch faster than Vista.

    Remember though, these options don't exist for x86 (32-bit users). Only x64. Just my more than two cents.
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    Hello Jody Thornton! I just came across an old post of yours at the Pale Moon forum minutes before I saw your post here. (I still haven't actually tried Pale Moon, but it is perhaps the most promising browser option for Vista now.) I'm somewhat curious why 32-bit users like OP billybellfoot and I can't follow your renegade suggestions, but be that as it may...

    Getting back to the original poster's specific questions:

    Quote Originally Posted by billybellfoot View Post
    what is most suitable OS for my small ff pc...(acer revo 3600 Intel Atom N230 - 1.6 GHz Processor...)
    Probably none of us have that hardware, but I did some googling. The most suitable OS for your system would no doubt be the OS it originally shipped with, namely Windows XP. FWIW I came across one specific post at Windows Central from someone claiming to have tried both Win7 and Win10 on an r3600 who concluded that performance was better with 7. If you are really running Vista on that system, then performance with Win7 probably would not be any worse than what you are experiencing now; perhaps even a bit better.
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  9.    30 Dec 2016 #9
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    Renegade suggestions ...lol. That's cute. Good to speak with you Vistaar.

    The reason x86 users are out of luck would be that (unless I'm mistaken) Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2012 are only released as x64 platforms. So there are no sources for 32 bit updates using either option. It is unfortunate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Thornton View Post
    The reason x86 users are out of luck would be that (unless I'm mistaken) Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2012 are only released as x64
    You may be right about Server 2012, but there appear to be x86 versions of Server 2008 patches, e.g. Microsoft Update Catalog - not that I actually relish the prospect of manually installing a lot of stinkin' patches that might very well break something. In fact, Microsoft has already turned up the difficulty level on their Windows Update game for those running Vista to such an extent that I don't think I will bother installing the final four months of genuine Vista patches.
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