A third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008

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JP

Hello,

I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if anyone
knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008 (as pop3 on
SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we use EFS
(http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on SBS2008. I really
do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage during the migration. Once
the server is install and working with all the users up and away then I might
move the Client to SMTP mail.

This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.

Many thanks for your help.

JP
 

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Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]

Hi JP:

I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better.

If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration and
get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by trying
to do both at once.

-
Larry
Please post the resolution to your
issue so others may benefit
-
Get Your SBS Health Check at
www.sbsbpa.com


> Hello,
>
> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if
> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on
> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we
> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on
> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage
> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with all
> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail.
>
> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> JP
>
 

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Jim Behning SBS MVP

Personally I am with Larry. Get SMTP working first. If you insist on
not getting it working first in days of old I used to buy PopBeamer.
Everyone is doing SMTP now so I have not purchased the product in
years but it worked great back in the day.Seems like a needless
expense. http://www.dataenter.com/products/popbeamer.htm

On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC), Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi JP:
>
>I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better.
>
>If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration and
>get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by trying
>to do both at once.
>
>-
>Larry
>Please post the resolution to your
>issue so others may benefit
>-
>Get Your SBS Health Check at
>www.sbsbpa.com
>
>

>> Hello,
>>
>> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if
>> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on
>> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we
>> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on
>> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage
>> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with all
>> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail.
>>
>> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
>>
>> Many thanks for your help.
>>
>> JP
>>
>
See what SBS support is working on
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
 

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Thomas Nielsen

I agree on the SMTP solution is so much better.
But if you want to, use POPCON from christensen software.
It will work on the SBS2008 and you can use it it trialmode for 30days (time
enough to change to the "real" deal)

Best regards
Thomas Nielsen


"Jim Behning SBS MVP" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]

> Personally I am with Larry. Get SMTP working first. If you insist on
> not getting it working first in days of old I used to buy PopBeamer.
> Everyone is doing SMTP now so I have not purchased the product in
> years but it worked great back in the day.Seems like a needless
> expense. http://www.dataenter.com/products/popbeamer.htm
>
> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC), Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>

>>Hi JP:
>>
>>I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better.
>>
>>If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration and
>>get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by trying
>>to do both at once.
>>
>>-
>>Larry
>>Please post the resolution to your
>>issue so others may benefit
>>-
>>Get Your SBS Health Check at
>>www.sbsbpa.com
>>
>>

>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if
>>> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on
>>> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we
>>> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on
>>> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage
>>> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with all
>>> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail.
>>>
>>> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> JP
>>>
>>
> See what SBS support is working on
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
 

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Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

JP

Realize of course you are making more head aches for yourself by adding a
POP3 connector.
I have never had to use the POP3 Connector in "ANY" SBS migration
At most I make sure backup MX Records (Which I recommend anyway.)

Adding something in a migration may cause you more issues.
The Amount of time you spend on configuration of the POP3 Connector
is longer than the time just to move everyone over.
(And since I work on a Per Hour Basis, Me charging more for wasted time is
frowned upon.)

There is the SBS2008 POP3 connector
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc527480(WS.10).aspx

If you need to Configure your mail server to answer for email for more than
one domain.
http://www.petri.co.il/change_primary_email_address_in_exchange_2007.htm

IMO POP3 should be considered DEAD and not ever used again.

Be sure to configure all PC's Laptops with the http://connect
when adding them to the domain
this will configure RPC over HTTPS (Outlook Anywhere) on the Laptops
And your users will be "VERY" happy!

Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com


"Thomas Nielsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> I agree on the SMTP solution is so much better.
> But if you want to, use POPCON from christensen software.
> It will work on the SBS2008 and you can use it it trialmode for 30days
> (time enough to change to the "real" deal)
>
> Best regards
> Thomas Nielsen
>
>
> "Jim Behning SBS MVP" <[email protected]> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]

>> Personally I am with Larry. Get SMTP working first. If you insist on
>> not getting it working first in days of old I used to buy PopBeamer.
>> Everyone is doing SMTP now so I have not purchased the product in
>> years but it worked great back in the day.Seems like a needless
>> expense. http://www.dataenter.com/products/popbeamer.htm
>>
>> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC), Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>

>>>Hi JP:
>>>
>>>I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better.
>>>
>>>If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration
>>>and
>>>get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by trying
>>>to do both at once.
>>>
>>>-
>>>Larry
>>>Please post the resolution to your
>>>issue so others may benefit
>>>-
>>>Get Your SBS Health Check at
>>>www.sbsbpa.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if
>>>> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on
>>>> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we
>>>> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on
>>>> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage
>>>> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with all
>>>> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail.
>>>>
>>>> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>> JP
>>>>
>>>
>> See what SBS support is working on
>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>
>
 

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Chimera NZL

3rd party pop3 connector

Hi,

EFS does actually work with SBS2008!!! In fact, it works with any SMTP mail server. Not sure where you read or heard that???

Cheers
Chimera EFS developer :-)



JP wrote:

A third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008
25-May-10

Hello,

I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if anyone
knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008 (as pop3 on
SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we use EFS
(http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on SBS2008. I really
do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage during the migration. Once
the server is install and working with all the users up and away then I might
move the Client to SMTP mail.

This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.

Many thanks for your help.

JP

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JP

RE: 3rd party pop3 connector

Hello Chimera,

I did download the latest Version and installed it on the SBS2008. But it
would not run. Not even an error message as well.

Installation goes well but when you click on the Icon to run EFS, nothing
happens

JP

"Chimera NZL" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> EFS does actually work with SBS2008!!! In fact, it works with any SMTP mail server. Not sure where you read or heard that???
>
> Cheers
> Chimera EFS developer :-)
>
>
>
> JP wrote:
>
> A third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008
> 25-May-10
>
> Hello,
>
> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if anyone
> knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008 (as pop3 on
> SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we use EFS
> (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on SBS2008. I really
> do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage during the migration. Once
> the server is install and working with all the users up and away then I might
> move the Client to SMTP mail.
>
> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> JP
>
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JP

Dear All.

Thank you for your sound advice. I have made up my mind that I shall move
the SBS2003 to SMTP, which I know works well as I have few Clients on it. My
only concern was, as there is no ICW on SBS2008 how would I tell the server
that emails are delivered direct to it? On SBS2003 all I did was change the
MX records at my ISP (as we have a static IP address) and in ICW said that
emails where delivered direct it was so easy.

But on SBS2008 I can not see any setup to inform the Server that emails are
delivered direct.

If one of you can point to a white a paper as to how SBS2008 SMTP is setup
to receive emails it would be much appreciated.

Once again thank for taking the time and giving me sound advice.

Please keep up the good work. Without you guys we would be lost.

Regards

JP



"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> JP
>
> Realize of course you are making more head aches for yourself by adding a
> POP3 connector.
> I have never had to use the POP3 Connector in "ANY" SBS migration
> At most I make sure backup MX Records (Which I recommend anyway.)
>
> Adding something in a migration may cause you more issues.
> The Amount of time you spend on configuration of the POP3 Connector
> is longer than the time just to move everyone over.
> (And since I work on a Per Hour Basis, Me charging more for wasted time is
> frowned upon.)
>
> There is the SBS2008 POP3 connector
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc527480(WS.10).aspx
>
> If you need to Configure your mail server to answer for email for more than
> one domain.
> http://www.petri.co.il/change_primary_email_address_in_exchange_2007.htm
>
> IMO POP3 should be considered DEAD and not ever used again.
>
> Be sure to configure all PC's Laptops with the http://connect
> when adding them to the domain
> this will configure RPC over HTTPS (Outlook Anywhere) on the Laptops
> And your users will be "VERY" happy!
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>
>
> "Thomas Nielsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

> > I agree on the SMTP solution is so much better.
> > But if you want to, use POPCON from christensen software.
> > It will work on the SBS2008 and you can use it it trialmode for 30days
> > (time enough to change to the "real" deal)
> >
> > Best regards
> > Thomas Nielsen
> >
> >
> > "Jim Behning SBS MVP" <[email protected]> wrote
> > in message news:[email protected]

> >> Personally I am with Larry. Get SMTP working first. If you insist on
> >> not getting it working first in days of old I used to buy PopBeamer.
> >> Everyone is doing SMTP now so I have not purchased the product in
> >> years but it worked great back in the day.Seems like a needless
> >> expense. http://www.dataenter.com/products/popbeamer.htm
> >>
> >> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC), Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi JP:
> >>>
> >>>I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better.
> >>>
> >>>If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration
> >>>and
> >>>get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by trying
> >>>to do both at once.
> >>>
> >>>-
> >>>Larry
> >>>Please post the resolution to your
> >>>issue so others may benefit
> >>>-
> >>>Get Your SBS Health Check at
> >>>www.sbsbpa.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if
> >>>> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on
> >>>> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we
> >>>> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on
> >>>> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage
> >>>> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with all
> >>>> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks for your help.
> >>>>
> >>>> JP
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> See what SBS support is working on
> >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
> >> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
> >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
> >
> >
 

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Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

That's great news
it's called "Set up your internet address" link
In the Windows SBS Console.

Make sure your MX Records are changed at MXToolBox.com
to point to your External IP
You can even test it there.

Russ

--
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MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com


"JP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> Dear All.
>
> Thank you for your sound advice. I have made up my mind that I shall move
> the SBS2003 to SMTP, which I know works well as I have few Clients on it.
> My
> only concern was, as there is no ICW on SBS2008 how would I tell the
> server
> that emails are delivered direct to it? On SBS2003 all I did was change
> the
> MX records at my ISP (as we have a static IP address) and in ICW said that
> emails where delivered direct it was so easy.
>
> But on SBS2008 I can not see any setup to inform the Server that emails
> are
> delivered direct.
>
> If one of you can point to a white a paper as to how SBS2008 SMTP is setup
> to receive emails it would be much appreciated.
>
> Once again thank for taking the time and giving me sound advice.
>
> Please keep up the good work. Without you guys we would be lost.
>
> Regards
>
> JP
>
>
>
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>

>> JP
>>
>> Realize of course you are making more head aches for yourself by adding a
>> POP3 connector.
>> I have never had to use the POP3 Connector in "ANY" SBS migration
>> At most I make sure backup MX Records (Which I recommend anyway.)
>>
>> Adding something in a migration may cause you more issues.
>> The Amount of time you spend on configuration of the POP3 Connector
>> is longer than the time just to move everyone over.
>> (And since I work on a Per Hour Basis, Me charging more for wasted time
>> is
>> frowned upon.)
>>
>> There is the SBS2008 POP3 connector
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc527480(WS.10).aspx
>>
>> If you need to Configure your mail server to answer for email for more
>> than
>> one domain.
>> http://www.petri.co.il/change_primary_email_address_in_exchange_2007.htm
>>
>> IMO POP3 should be considered DEAD and not ever used again.
>>
>> Be sure to configure all PC's Laptops with the http://connect
>> when adding them to the domain
>> this will configure RPC over HTTPS (Outlook Anywhere) on the Laptops
>> And your users will be "VERY" happy!
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>
>>
>> "Thomas Nielsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]

>> > I agree on the SMTP solution is so much better.
>> > But if you want to, use POPCON from christensen software.
>> > It will work on the SBS2008 and you can use it it trialmode for 30days
>> > (time enough to change to the "real" deal)
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Thomas Nielsen
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jim Behning SBS MVP" <[email protected]>
>> > wrote
>> > in message news:[email protected]
>> >> Personally I am with Larry. Get SMTP working first. If you insist on
>> >> not getting it working first in days of old I used to buy PopBeamer.
>> >> Everyone is doing SMTP now so I have not purchased the product in
>> >> years but it worked great back in the day.Seems like a needless
>> >> expense. http://www.dataenter.com/products/popbeamer.htm
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC), Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Hi JP:
>> >>>
>> >>>I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better.
>> >>>
>> >>>If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration
>> >>>and
>> >>>get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by
>> >>>trying
>> >>>to do both at once.
>> >>>
>> >>>-
>> >>>Larry
>> >>>Please post the resolution to your
>> >>>issue so others may benefit
>> >>>-
>> >>>Get Your SBS Health Check at
>> >>>www.sbsbpa.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know
>> >>>> if
>> >>>> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on
>> >>>> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we
>> >>>> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on
>> >>>> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage
>> >>>> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with
>> >>>> all
>> >>>> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Many thanks for your help.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> JP
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >> See what SBS support is working on
>> >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>> >> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>> >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>> >
>> >
 

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Cliff Galiher - MVP

As others have stated, Pop3 really is not an appropriate solution. But one
thing I specifically wanted to mention is that you said you want to move to
SMTP later to keep the migration simple. I believe moving to SMTP is
actually the simpler solution when compared to installing a 3rd party pop3
connector, adding all of the accounts it needs to check, and managing
multiple passwords for each account (the account domain password + the
password for the pop3 connector.)

Moving to SMTP is actually a very simple process and will, in my opinion,
actually make the migration (and troubleshooting any post-migration issues)
easier. Consider it.

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"JP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> Hello,
>
> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if
> anyone
> knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008 (as pop3
> on
> SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we use EFS
> (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on SBS2008. I
> really
> do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage during the migration.
> Once
> the server is install and working with all the users up and away then I
> might
> move the Client to SMTP mail.
>
> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible.
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> JP
>
 

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