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Default roles missing after fresh install SBS 2008

C

Coach

#1
After a fresh install something failed.
no default roles was created wich means the consol dont work.

I can create users and groups the old fashion way in AD

but in the console i only get " the console feature is not set up correct"

from what i can see there are no defualt roles

no roles made at all in fact

In Ad I hade to make "MyBusiness" manualy
but im sure lots a both roles and standard users are missing

what should the OU under My business look like?

så my question is how do i fix this
without install all over again

is it possible to create these roles ( templates) manualy



i tried repair consol.....do nothing
 

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S

Susan Bradley

#2
Coach wrote:

> After a fresh install something failed.
> no default roles was created wich means the consol dont work.
>
> I can create users and groups the old fashion way in AD
>
> but in the console i only get " the console feature is not set up correct"
>
> from what i can see there are no defualt roles
>
> no roles made at all in fact
>
> In Ad I hade to make "MyBusiness" manualy
> but im sure lots a both roles and standard users are missing
>
> what should the OU under My business look like?
>
> så my question is how do i fix this
> without install all over again
>
> is it possible to create these roles ( templates) manualy
>
>
>
> i tried repair consol.....do nothing
>
>
>
SBS Console feature is not setup correctly:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com...l/thread/7ce56ebc-1972-467a-9ea0-6b2886e84046

Did you disable Standard User, Network Administrator and Local
administrator by any chance?
 

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C

Coach

#3
"Susan Bradley" wrote:

> Coach wrote:

> > After a fresh install something failed.
> > no default roles was created wich means the consol dont work.
> >
> > I can create users and groups the old fashion way in AD
> >
> > but in the console i only get " the console feature is not set up correct"
> >
> > from what i can see there are no defualt roles
> >
> > no roles made at all in fact
> >
> > In Ad I hade to make "MyBusiness" manualy
> > but im sure lots a both roles and standard users are missing
> >
> > what should the OU under My business look like?
> >
> > så my question is how do i fix this
> > without install all over again
> >
> > is it possible to create these roles ( templates) manualy
> >
> >
> >
> > i tried repair consol.....do nothing
> >
> >
> >
> SBS Console feature is not setup correctly:
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com...l/thread/7ce56ebc-1972-467a-9ea0-6b2886e84046
>
> Did you disable Standard User, Network Administrator and Local
> administrator by any chance?
> .
>
problem is they dont excist at all
Did you disable Standard User, Network Administrator and Local
didnt geet created
and no users named SBS...
 

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C

Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]

#4
So you really need to flatten the box and reinstall until it's working correctly
Any chance there are multiple nics in the server?

--
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
A Microsoft Registered Partner
------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft
Please do not submit questions directly to me.

"Coach" <Coach@newsgroup> wrote in message news:E021AB80-21F4-40B1-A6BE-63EE60086468@newsgroup
After a fresh install something failed.
no default roles was created wich means the consol dont work.

I can create users and groups the old fashion way in AD

but in the console i only get " the console feature is not set up correct"

from what i can see there are no defualt roles

no roles made at all in fact

In Ad I hade to make "MyBusiness" manualy
but im sure lots a both roles and standard users are missing

what should the OU under My business look like?

så my question is how do i fix this
without install all over again

is it possible to create these roles ( templates) manualy



i tried repair consol.....do nothing
 

My Computer

C

Chris Puckett [MSFT]

#5
Clean install or migration install?

Did you choose the option to install updates during the installation?

What was the first name and last name you specified for the Administrator account?

Can you post or attach the sbssetup.log file?

If this was truly a fresh install (meaning you created a brand new domain instead of joining an existing domain), then I'm with Cris Hanna; flatten the box and reinstall.

--
Chris Puckett

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@newsgroup> wrote in message news:ucTvJ782KHA.3844@newsgroup
So you really need to flatten the box and reinstall until it's working correctly
Any chance there are multiple nics in the server?

--
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
A Microsoft Registered Partner
------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft
Please do not submit questions directly to me.

"Coach" <Coach@newsgroup> wrote in message news:E021AB80-21F4-40B1-A6BE-63EE60086468@newsgroup
After a fresh install something failed.
no default roles was created wich means the consol dont work.

I can create users and groups the old fashion way in AD

but in the console i only get " the console feature is not set up correct"

from what i can see there are no defualt roles

no roles made at all in fact

In Ad I hade to make "MyBusiness" manualy
but im sure lots a both roles and standard users are missing

what should the OU under My business look like?

så my question is how do i fix this
without install all over again

is it possible to create these roles ( templates) manualy



i tried repair consol.....do nothing
 

My Computer

C

Coach

#6
"Chris Puckett [MSFT]" wrote:
Clean install or migration install? clean out of the box

Did you choose the option to install updates during the installation? yes


Can you post or attach the sbssetup.log file?
i will look it up

If this was truly a fresh install (meaning you created a brand new domain
instead of joining an existing domain), then I'm with Cris Hanna; flatten the
box and reinstall. brand new...new domain

nothing from the old server

thing is
the server is working fine
AD works the old way
wsus is working
sharepoint is working
exchnage working


the only thing aint working from what i know now is the sbs consol
atlest not working with users or groups
computers show up in the console

from hours of serahing the webb
im very sure its because of the default roles
they just aint there

it has to be possible to create these roles manualy

screendums from the console
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3856/sbs1.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4928/sbs2o.jpg

everything hans up here cuz of no roles

***
the thing is the server is allready in use
and as I Said its doing the job
but it buggs me to have a brand new server and SBS that is not all 100%

so its really hard for me to do the job all over
my workplace is a 24/7 bussines

 

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C

Coach

#7
"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:

> So you really need to flatten the box and reinstall until it's working correctly
> Any chance there are multiple nics in the server?
>
Nope just one NIC



> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
> A Microsoft Registered Partner
> ------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>
> "Coach" <Coach@newsgroup> wrote in message news:E021AB80-21F4-40B1-A6BE-63EE60086468@newsgroup
> After a fresh install something failed.
> no default roles was created wich means the consol dont work.
>
> I can create users and groups the old fashion way in AD
>
> but in the console i only get " the console feature is not set up correct"
>
> from what i can see there are no defualt roles
>
> no roles made at all in fact
>
> In Ad I hade to make "MyBusiness" manualy
> but im sure lots a both roles and standard users are missing
>
> what should the OU under My business look like?
>
> så my question is how do i fix this
> without install all over again
>
> is it possible to create these roles ( templates) manualy
>
>
>
> i tried repair consol.....do nothing
>
>
 

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C

Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]

#8
Was the console working before you rolled this out and put it in use?


--
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
A Microsoft Registered Partner
------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft
Please do not submit questions directly to me.

"Coach" <Coach@newsgroup> wrote in message news:F2A7C874-11DC-4F28-BA76-01DC56D124D0@newsgroup


"Chris Puckett [MSFT]" wrote:
Clean install or migration install? clean out of the box

Did you choose the option to install updates during the installation? yes


Can you post or attach the sbssetup.log file?
i will look it up

If this was truly a fresh install (meaning you created a brand new domain
instead of joining an existing domain), then I'm with Cris Hanna; flatten the
box and reinstall. brand new...new domain

nothing from the old server

thing is
the server is working fine
AD works the old way
wsus is working
sharepoint is working
exchnage working


the only thing aint working from what i know now is the sbs consol
atlest not working with users or groups
computers show up in the console

from hours of serahing the webb
im very sure its because of the default roles
they just aint there

it has to be possible to create these roles manualy

screendums from the console
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3856/sbs1.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4928/sbs2o.jpg

everything hans up here cuz of no roles

***
the thing is the server is allready in use
and as I Said its doing the job
but it buggs me to have a brand new server and SBS that is not all 100%

so its really hard for me to do the job all over
my workplace is a 24/7 bussines

 

My Computer

C

Coach

#9
"Coach" wrote:

>
>
> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:
>

> > So you really need to flatten the box and reinstall until it's working correctly
> > Any chance there are multiple nics in the server?
> >
> Nope just one NIC
>
>
>
nothing is installed
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg

is it possible to install this without a format and reinstall?

my guess is the installation faild with somekind of network thing during
install

Task: In Task DcPromo: The server was not promoted to a domain controller.

so....reinstall or ?

if i have to reinstall
can i back up my entire exchnage?
so i atlest dont have to save down all pst files again
 

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S

Susan Bradley

#10
Coach wrote:

> "Coach" wrote:
>
>

>> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>

>>> So you really need to flatten the box and reinstall until it's working correctly
>>> Any chance there are multiple nics in the server?
>>>
>>>
>> Nope just one NIC
>>
>>
>>
>>
> nothing is installed
> http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
>
> is it possible to install this without a format and reinstall?
>
> my guess is the installation faild with somekind of network thing during
> install
>
> Task: In Task DcPromo: The server was not promoted to a domain controller.
>
> so....reinstall or ?
>
> if i have to reinstall
> can i back up my entire exchnage?
> so i atlest dont have to save down all pst files again
>
>
Can you post up the setup log file from the server?
 

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C

Coach

#11
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg

as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
im sure its a netwark connection failure during install

i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
works like a charm
diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
and my server dont

***
my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing

what i need is the 3 default user templates
i guess... :(
i dont have any users or groups named sbs....

im about to give up about this
logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
 

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C

Chris Puckett [MSFT]

#12
Unfortunately, the guidance for this error message is to start over.

Resolution Due to the number of complex product interactions and
dependent tasks related to the failure in promoting the server to a domain
controller, manual steps to recover from this failure cannot be provided at
this time.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc626262(WS.10).aspx

You are in unchartered territory if you want to try and repair this server
in the state it is in. You have done a second install, so you could look at
the roles created on it to try recreating them on the first server.

On SBS 2008, there are three user role templates that are created by
default:
1. Standard User
2. Standard User with Administration Links
3. Network Administrator

These user role templates have to be a member of specific Security groups in
Active Directory. You can compare the group membership of these user
accounts with your working machine.
--
Chris Puckett

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"Coach" <Coach@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:57A859EB-08C0-42ED-9174-B738E99F3F3E@newsgroup

> http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
>
> as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
> im sure its a netwark connection failure during install
>
> i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
> works like a charm
> diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
> and my server dont
>
> ***
> my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
> regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing
>
> what i need is the 3 default user templates
> i guess... :(
> i dont have any users or groups named sbs....
>
> im about to give up about this
> logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>
 

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S

Susan Bradley

#13
Coach wrote:

> http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
>
> as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
> im sure its a netwark connection failure during install
>
> i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
> works like a charm
> diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
> and my server dont
>
> ***
> my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
> regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing
>
> what i need is the 3 default user templates
> i guess... :(
> i dont have any users or groups named sbs....
>
> im about to give up about this
> logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>
>
You need more than the default templates.
You don't have a DC here.

logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller


When it finished it should have said that it failed during the install.
This isn't a SBS box. Backup those user profiles, take then back to a
workgroup and start over.
 

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C

Coach

#14
"Susan Bradley" wrote:

> Coach wrote:

> > http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
> >
> > as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
> > im sure its a netwark connection failure during install
> >
> > i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
> > works like a charm
> > diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
> > and my server dont
> >
> > ***
> > my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
> > regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing
> >
> > what i need is the 3 default user templates
> > i guess... :(
> > i dont have any users or groups named sbs....
> >
> > im about to give up about this
> > logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
> >
> >
> You need more than the default templates.
> You don't have a DC here.
>
> logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>
>
> When it finished it should have said that it failed during the install.
> This isn't a SBS box. Backup those user profiles, take then back to a
> workgroup and start over.
> .
yes im affraid i have to redo it....

strange thing is it IS a DC
The AD is working the old way
computers and priters show up in the consol
backup works
sharepoint works

users/gropus dont

anyway

what would u suggest to be the smarters way to redo it.

i have a new 2008 server but i rather dont mess with that machine because it
runs very importent stuff

i have a new PC wich i installed a sbs2008 on to look how its supposed to look

on the broken sbs2008
i have exchnage running and i guess thats my biggest problem right now.

is this possible.

to set up the pc as a DC move over exchnage and AD to that machine.
same domain name so i dont have to mess on every machine i have.
would prefer to be able to move the printers aswell if possible

and then just reinstall my real sbs2008 and then move the stuff back?
 

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J

Jim Behning SBS MVP

#15
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:10:01 -0700, Coach
<Coach@newsgroup> wrote:

>
>
>"Susan Bradley" wrote:
>

>> Coach wrote:

>> > http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
>> >
>> > as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
>> > im sure its a netwark connection failure during install
>> >
>> > i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
>> > works like a charm
>> > diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
>> > and my server dont
>> >
>> > ***
>> > my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
>> > regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing
>> >
>> > what i need is the 3 default user templates
>> > i guess... :(
>> > i dont have any users or groups named sbs....
>> >
>> > im about to give up about this
>> > logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>> >
>> >
>> You need more than the default templates.
>> You don't have a DC here.
>>
>> logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>>
>>
>> When it finished it should have said that it failed during the install.
>> This isn't a SBS box. Backup those user profiles, take then back to a
>> workgroup and start over.
>> .
>
>yes im affraid i have to redo it....
>
>strange thing is it IS a DC
>The AD is working the old way
>computers and priters show up in the consol
>backup works
>sharepoint works
>
>users/gropus dont
>
>anyway
>
>what would u suggest to be the smarters way to redo it.
>
>i have a new 2008 server but i rather dont mess with that machine because it
>runs very importent stuff
>
>i have a new PC wich i installed a sbs2008 on to look how its supposed to look
>
>on the broken sbs2008
>i have exchnage running and i guess thats my biggest problem right now.
>
>is this possible.
>
>to set up the pc as a DC move over exchnage and AD to that machine.
>same domain name so i dont have to mess on every machine i have.
>would prefer to be able to move the printers aswell if possible
>
>and then just reinstall my real sbs2008 and then move the stuff back?
>
>
Same domain name does not mean it is the same domain. To computers
there is more stuff going on. Kind of like a car. You buy a BMW 530.
Your wife buys a BMW530. Same color, same engine, same transmission,
same interior. But they are not the same as they have different serial
numbers. The police do not consider them the same car. Neither do
insurance companies.

A domain works on security identifiers. Unless you join a domain
controller to an existing working domain, the new DC has a different
identifier that makes it a totally different domain even if you choose
to call the server the same name and the domain the same. Same for
workstations that are joined to a DC that looks the same by name but
are not the same because they were never joined to the original
domain. I might be simplifying the concept but the short answer is all
the workstations will need to join the new SBS domain you create when
you reinstall your SBS successfully.

There are ways to save workstation profiles and import them back to
the "new domain" joined workstations. There are also ways to deal with
email which should be done before you start to reinstall the SBS.

Did anyone review your server specifications to make sure that it is
good enough?
See what SBS support is working on
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
 

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C

Chris Puckett [MSFT]

#16
There is a paper below on migrating SBS 2008 to SBS 2008 (mainly for the
purpose of moving the installation to new hardware).

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc664208(WS.10).aspx

You could try that, but I'm not sure how it will fare given the state of the
current SBS 2008 server. You could take a similar approach with a non-SBS
2008 server on the interim PC if you got stuck.

--
Chris Puckett

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"Jim Behning SBS MVP" <jimbehning@newsgroup> wrote in
message news:f7gos55jlct0qop82068db3c3rcdbfuqe2@newsgroup

> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:10:01 -0700, Coach
> <Coach@newsgroup> wrote:
>

>>
>>
>>"Susan Bradley" wrote:
>>

>>> Coach wrote:
>>> > http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
>>> >
>>> > as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
>>> > im sure its a netwark connection failure during install
>>> >
>>> > i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
>>> > works like a charm
>>> > diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
>>> > and my server dont
>>> >
>>> > ***
>>> > my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
>>> > regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing
>>> >
>>> > what i need is the 3 default user templates
>>> > i guess... :(
>>> > i dont have any users or groups named sbs....
>>> >
>>> > im about to give up about this
>>> > logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>>> >
>>> >
>>> You need more than the default templates.
>>> You don't have a DC here.
>>>
>>> logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>>>
>>>
>>> When it finished it should have said that it failed during the install.
>>> This isn't a SBS box. Backup those user profiles, take then back to a
>>> workgroup and start over.
>>> .
>>
>>yes im affraid i have to redo it....
>>
>>strange thing is it IS a DC
>>The AD is working the old way
>>computers and priters show up in the consol
>>backup works
>>sharepoint works
>>
>>users/gropus dont
>>
>>anyway
>>
>>what would u suggest to be the smarters way to redo it.
>>
>>i have a new 2008 server but i rather dont mess with that machine because
>>it
>>runs very importent stuff
>>
>>i have a new PC wich i installed a sbs2008 on to look how its supposed to
>>look
>>
>>on the broken sbs2008
>>i have exchnage running and i guess thats my biggest problem right now.
>>
>>is this possible.
>>
>>to set up the pc as a DC move over exchnage and AD to that machine.
>>same domain name so i dont have to mess on every machine i have.
>>would prefer to be able to move the printers aswell if possible
>>
>>and then just reinstall my real sbs2008 and then move the stuff back?
>>
>>
> Same domain name does not mean it is the same domain. To computers
> there is more stuff going on. Kind of like a car. You buy a BMW 530.
> Your wife buys a BMW530. Same color, same engine, same transmission,
> same interior. But they are not the same as they have different serial
> numbers. The police do not consider them the same car. Neither do
> insurance companies.
>
> A domain works on security identifiers. Unless you join a domain
> controller to an existing working domain, the new DC has a different
> identifier that makes it a totally different domain even if you choose
> to call the server the same name and the domain the same. Same for
> workstations that are joined to a DC that looks the same by name but
> are not the same because they were never joined to the original
> domain. I might be simplifying the concept but the short answer is all
> the workstations will need to join the new SBS domain you create when
> you reinstall your SBS successfully.
>
> There are ways to save workstation profiles and import them back to
> the "new domain" joined workstations. There are also ways to deal with
> email which should be done before you start to reinstall the SBS.
>
> Did anyone review your server specifications to make sure that it is
> good enough?
> See what SBS support is working on
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
 

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C

Coach

#17
"Jim Behning SBS MVP" wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:10:01 -0700, Coach
> <Coach@newsgroup> wrote:
>

> >
> >
> >"Susan Bradley" wrote:
> >

> >> Coach wrote:
> >> > http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
> >> >
> >> > as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
> >> > im sure its a netwark connection failure during install
> >> >
> >> > i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
> >> > works like a charm
> >> > diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
> >> > and my server dont
> >> >
> >> > ***
> >> > my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
> >> > regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing
> >> >
> >> > what i need is the 3 default user templates
> >> > i guess... :(
> >> > i dont have any users or groups named sbs....
> >> >
> >> > im about to give up about this
> >> > logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
> >> >
> >> >
> >> You need more than the default templates.
> >> You don't have a DC here.
> >>
> >> logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
> >>
> >>
> >> When it finished it should have said that it failed during the install.
> >> This isn't a SBS box. Backup those user profiles, take then back to a
> >> workgroup and start over.
> >> .
> >
> >yes im affraid i have to redo it....
> >
> >strange thing is it IS a DC
> >The AD is working the old way
> >computers and priters show up in the consol
> >backup works
> >sharepoint works
> >
> >users/gropus dont
> >
> >anyway
> >
> >what would u suggest to be the smarters way to redo it.
> >
> >i have a new 2008 server but i rather dont mess with that machine because it
> >runs very importent stuff
> >
> >i have a new PC wich i installed a sbs2008 on to look how its supposed to look
> >
> >on the broken sbs2008
> >i have exchnage running and i guess thats my biggest problem right now.
> >
> >is this possible.
> >
> >to set up the pc as a DC move over exchnage and AD to that machine.
> >same domain name so i dont have to mess on every machine i have.
> >would prefer to be able to move the printers aswell if possible
> >
> >and then just reinstall my real sbs2008 and then move the stuff back?
> >
> >
> Same domain name does not mean it is the same domain. To computers
> there is more stuff going on. Kind of like a car. You buy a BMW 530.
> Your wife buys a BMW530. Same color, same engine, same transmission,
> same interior. But they are not the same as they have different serial
> numbers. The police do not consider them the same car. Neither do
> insurance companies.
>
> A domain works on security identifiers. Unless you join a domain
> controller to an existing working domain, the new DC has a different
> identifier that makes it a totally different domain even if you choose
> to call the server the same name and the domain the same. Same for
> workstations that are joined to a DC that looks the same by name but
> are not the same because they were never joined to the original
> domain. I might be simplifying the concept but the short answer is all
> the workstations will need to join the new SBS domain you create when
> you reinstall your SBS successfully.
>
> There are ways to save workstation profiles and import them back to
> the "new domain" joined workstations. There are also ways to deal with
> email which should be done before you start to reinstall the SBS.
>
> Did anyone review your server specifications to make sure that it is
> good enough?
> See what SBS support is working on
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
> .
Thx

so what would u pro's suggest?
i need to reinstall thats pretty clear

how do i export Exchnage 2007
and AD users if possible
 

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Jim Behning SBS MVP

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:53:01 -0700, Coach
<Coach@newsgroup> wrote:

>
>
>
>"Jim Behning SBS MVP" wrote:
>

>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:10:01 -0700, Coach
>> <Coach@newsgroup> wrote:
>>

>> >
>> >
>> >"Susan Bradley" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Coach wrote:
>> >> > http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1802/sbs3.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> > as u can see here nothing seems to be installd
>> >> > im sure its a netwark connection failure during install
>> >> >
>> >> > i set up a new sbs2008 on a pc just to see
>> >> > works like a charm
>> >> > diffrens is that the pc version has a disabeld administrator account
>> >> > and my server dont
>> >> >
>> >> > ***
>> >> > my only question is if there is anyway its possible to repair this
>> >> > regular sbs cosnsole repair does nothing
>> >> >
>> >> > what i need is the 3 default user templates
>> >> > i guess... :(
>> >> > i dont have any users or groups named sbs....
>> >> >
>> >> > im about to give up about this
>> >> > logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> You need more than the default templates.
>> >> You don't have a DC here.
>> >>
>> >> logfile says fatal error not promoted domiancontroller
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> When it finished it should have said that it failed during the install.
>> >> This isn't a SBS box. Backup those user profiles, take then back to a
>> >> workgroup and start over.
>> >> .
>> >
>> >yes im affraid i have to redo it....
>> >
>> >strange thing is it IS a DC
>> >The AD is working the old way
>> >computers and priters show up in the consol
>> >backup works
>> >sharepoint works
>> >
>> >users/gropus dont
>> >
>> >anyway
>> >
>> >what would u suggest to be the smarters way to redo it.
>> >
>> >i have a new 2008 server but i rather dont mess with that machine because it
>> >runs very importent stuff
>> >
>> >i have a new PC wich i installed a sbs2008 on to look how its supposed to look
>> >
>> >on the broken sbs2008
>> >i have exchnage running and i guess thats my biggest problem right now.
>> >
>> >is this possible.
>> >
>> >to set up the pc as a DC move over exchnage and AD to that machine.
>> >same domain name so i dont have to mess on every machine i have.
>> >would prefer to be able to move the printers aswell if possible
>> >
>> >and then just reinstall my real sbs2008 and then move the stuff back?
>> >
>> >
>> Same domain name does not mean it is the same domain. To computers
>> there is more stuff going on. Kind of like a car. You buy a BMW 530.
>> Your wife buys a BMW530. Same color, same engine, same transmission,
>> same interior. But they are not the same as they have different serial
>> numbers. The police do not consider them the same car. Neither do
>> insurance companies.
>>
>> A domain works on security identifiers. Unless you join a domain
>> controller to an existing working domain, the new DC has a different
>> identifier that makes it a totally different domain even if you choose
>> to call the server the same name and the domain the same. Same for
>> workstations that are joined to a DC that looks the same by name but
>> are not the same because they were never joined to the original
>> domain. I might be simplifying the concept but the short answer is all
>> the workstations will need to join the new SBS domain you create when
>> you reinstall your SBS successfully.
>>
>> There are ways to save workstation profiles and import them back to
>> the "new domain" joined workstations. There are also ways to deal with
>> email which should be done before you start to reinstall the SBS.
>>
>> Did anyone review your server specifications to make sure that it is
>> good enough?
>> See what SBS support is working on
>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>> .
>Thx
>
>so what would u pro's suggest?
>i need to reinstall thats pretty clear
>
>how do i export Exchnage 2007
>and AD users if possible
>
To export Exchange you stop the smtp service on the server. You go to
each workstation from Outlook to do an export of their email to a pst
you can find.

You join a domain controller to your existing domain. Clean it up.
Clean it up is not a trivial process. Join the new SBS to the
existing domain. If you have less than 50 users just toss everything
out once you have saved email. Or maybe buy a swing migration kit and
do that. google swing migration for more answers.
See what SBS support is working on
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
 

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