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Dell Installation Workaround?

ceestand

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#1
I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531. It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as it was 32 bit.

I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
"windows is loading files..."
copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E

I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system (and most probably don't comprehend it).

What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
 

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Carey Frisch [MVP]

#2
What benefit are you hoping to derive from
installing a 64-bit version?

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"ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...

I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531.
It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
it was 32 bit.

I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
"windows is loading files..."
copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E

I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
(and most probably don't comprehend it).

What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?


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ceestand
 

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Mike Hall - MVP

#3
People buying 64bit hardware with 32bit software installed are NOT being
hoodwinked. They are getting the OS that is most likely to be compatible
with hardware generally available for home/small office use.

Unless you are having to run a 64bit mission critical application which
requires more than 4gb RAM, there is presently little advantage to running a
64bit OS.

You would be well advised to re-instate your 32bit OS by whatever means you
have at your disposal..


"ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...

>
> I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531.
> It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
> it was 32 bit.
>
> I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
> After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
> "windows is loading files..."
> copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
> and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
>
> I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
> all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
> (and most probably don't comprehend it).
>
> What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
> possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
>
>
> --
> ceestand
 

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David B.

#4
"I don't think all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a
32-bit system (and most probably don't comprehend it)."
Probably 90% of them have no clue or could care less what the difference is,
most are better of with the 32 bit version, it's a matter of support.

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"ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531.
> It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
> it was 32 bit.
>
> I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
> After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
> "windows is loading files..."
> copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
> and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
>
> I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
> all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
> (and most probably don't comprehend it).
>
> What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
> possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
>
>
> --
> ceestand
 

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#5
Although the OP probably does not have any 64 bit user applications
installed he will get the benefit of the OS itself being a 64 bit program
means that the new 64 bit instructions which combine the contents of 2 32
bit instructions can execute in one machine cycle instead of 2 machine
cycles using a 32 bit OS.
Also the OP would get the benefit of moving blocks of data 64 bits per
machine cycle instead of 2 in the 64 bit OS uses has 64 bit registers
instead of 32 bit registers
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Oa2t1xkEIHA.1316@xxxxxx

> People buying 64bit hardware with 32bit software installed are NOT being
> hoodwinked. They are getting the OS that is most likely to be compatible
> with hardware generally available for home/small office use.
>
> Unless you are having to run a 64bit mission critical application which
> requires more than 4gb RAM, there is presently little advantage to running
> a 64bit OS.
>
> You would be well advised to re-instate your 32bit OS by whatever means
> you have at your disposal..
>
>
> "ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...

>>
>> I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531.
>> It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
>> it was 32 bit.
>>
>> I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
>> After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
>> "windows is loading files..."
>> copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
>> and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
>>
>> I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
>> all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
>> (and most probably don't comprehend it).
>>
>> What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
>> possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
>>
>>
>> --
>> ceestand
>
 

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Mike Hall - MVP

#6
64bit Vista will run 32bit apps, but still runs them as 32bit. Unless ported
to 64bit, there is no perceptible performance gain, but there is a hit in
that drivers for some devices may not be available for 64bit, especially
devices squarely aimed at the home user.

Until there is a mass move to 64bit applications, use of a 64bit OS is still
much of a niche, and can't be fully recommended at this point in time for
all users.

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
"JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:087513B8-7BB0-4878-9F79-327CDA3650A5@xxxxxx

> Although the OP probably does not have any 64 bit user applications
> installed he will get the benefit of the OS itself being a 64 bit program
> means that the new 64 bit instructions which combine the contents of 2 32
> bit instructions can execute in one machine cycle instead of 2 machine
> cycles using a 32 bit OS.
> Also the OP would get the benefit of moving blocks of data 64 bits per
> machine cycle instead of 2 in the 64 bit OS uses has 64 bit registers
> instead of 32 bit registers
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Oa2t1xkEIHA.1316@xxxxxx

>> People buying 64bit hardware with 32bit software installed are NOT being
>> hoodwinked. They are getting the OS that is most likely to be compatible
>> with hardware generally available for home/small office use.
>>
>> Unless you are having to run a 64bit mission critical application which
>> requires more than 4gb RAM, there is presently little advantage to
>> running a 64bit OS.
>>
>> You would be well advised to re-instate your 32bit OS by whatever means
>> you have at your disposal..
>>
>>
>> "ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...

>>>
>>> I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531.
>>> It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
>>> it was 32 bit.
>>>
>>> I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
>>> After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
>>> "windows is loading files..."
>>> copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
>>> and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
>>>
>>> I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
>>> all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
>>> (and most probably don't comprehend it).
>>>
>>> What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
>>> possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ceestand
>>
>
 

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#7
I disagree.
I am fully aware that 32 bit apps still run as 32 bit ps. However, you do
seem to be aware that the OS itself is a 64 bit app and therefore runs
faster and all blocks of data moved by the OS move in 1/2 the time as I
stated in my previous post.
I understand also that almost all drivers that are available in 32 bit Vista
are now available also in 64 bit vista since once the vendors supplied 32
bit drivers for all of their products they worked to provide 64 bit drivers
for the same products.
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eSlh5dmEIHA.5044@xxxxxx

> 64bit Vista will run 32bit apps, but still runs them as 32bit. Unless
> ported to 64bit, there is no perceptible performance gain, but there is a
> hit in that drivers for some devices may not be available for 64bit,
> especially devices squarely aimed at the home user.
>
> Until there is a mass move to 64bit applications, use of a 64bit OS is
> still much of a niche, and can't be fully recommended at this point in
> time for all users.
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
> Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:087513B8-7BB0-4878-9F79-327CDA3650A5@xxxxxx

>> Although the OP probably does not have any 64 bit user applications
>> installed he will get the benefit of the OS itself being a 64 bit program
>> means that the new 64 bit instructions which combine the contents of 2 32
>> bit instructions can execute in one machine cycle instead of 2 machine
>> cycles using a 32 bit OS.
>> Also the OP would get the benefit of moving blocks of data 64 bits per
>> machine cycle instead of 2 in the 64 bit OS uses has 64 bit registers
>> instead of 32 bit registers
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Oa2t1xkEIHA.1316@xxxxxx

>>> People buying 64bit hardware with 32bit software installed are NOT being
>>> hoodwinked. They are getting the OS that is most likely to be compatible
>>> with hardware generally available for home/small office use.
>>>
>>> Unless you are having to run a 64bit mission critical application which
>>> requires more than 4gb RAM, there is presently little advantage to
>>> running a 64bit OS.
>>>
>>> You would be well advised to re-instate your 32bit OS by whatever means
>>> you have at your disposal..
>>>
>>>
>>> "ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
>>>>
>>>> I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531.
>>>> It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
>>>> it was 32 bit.
>>>>
>>>> I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
>>>> After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
>>>> "windows is loading files..."
>>>> copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
>>>> and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
>>>>
>>>> I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
>>>> all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
>>>> (and most probably don't comprehend it).
>>>>
>>>> What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
>>>> possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ceestand
>>>
>>
>
 

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jerryw4386

#8
"David B." wrote:

> "I don't think all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a
> 32-bit system (and most probably don't comprehend it)."
> Probably 90% of them have no clue or could care less what the difference is,
> most are better of with the 32 bit version, it's a matter of support.
>
> --
>
> ----
> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> _________________________________________________________________________________
>
>
> "ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...

> >
> > I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron 531.
> > It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
> > it was 32 bit.
> >
> > I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
> > After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
> > "windows is loading files..."
> > copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
> > and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
> >
> > I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
> > all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
> > (and most probably don't comprehend it).
> >
> > What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
> > possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
> >
> >
> > --
> > ceestand
>
> then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
Hi ceestand
Go to the bios and set them to ata mode not raid and see if that will help !
OH by the way Dell has dropped all Vista\XP Pro 64 bit drivers for most of
there PC,s
as of yesterday go to driver downloads you will see !
I got in tuch with a Dell mod he sayed it was true !!
Bad move Dell !!
Good Luck with your install of 64 bit.
See Yea
 

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Mike Hall - MVP

#9
It doesn't make everything twice as fast though, nor anything close..

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"JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:68CDDBB5-DCAD-479F-8FC4-985F7CAE32DF@xxxxxx

>I disagree.
> I am fully aware that 32 bit apps still run as 32 bit ps. However, you do
> seem to be aware that the OS itself is a 64 bit app and therefore runs
> faster and all blocks of data moved by the OS move in 1/2 the time as I
> stated in my previous post.
> I understand also that almost all drivers that are available in 32 bit
> Vista are now available also in 64 bit vista since once the vendors
> supplied 32 bit drivers for all of their products they worked to provide
> 64 bit drivers for the same products.
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eSlh5dmEIHA.5044@xxxxxx

>> 64bit Vista will run 32bit apps, but still runs them as 32bit. Unless
>> ported to 64bit, there is no perceptible performance gain, but there is a
>> hit in that drivers for some devices may not be available for 64bit,
>> especially devices squarely aimed at the home user.
>>
>> Until there is a mass move to 64bit applications, use of a 64bit OS is
>> still much of a niche, and can't be fully recommended at this point in
>> time for all users.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>> Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:087513B8-7BB0-4878-9F79-327CDA3650A5@xxxxxx

>>> Although the OP probably does not have any 64 bit user applications
>>> installed he will get the benefit of the OS itself being a 64 bit
>>> program means that the new 64 bit instructions which combine the
>>> contents of 2 32 bit instructions can execute in one machine cycle
>>> instead of 2 machine cycles using a 32 bit OS.
>>> Also the OP would get the benefit of moving blocks of data 64 bits per
>>> machine cycle instead of 2 in the 64 bit OS uses has 64 bit registers
>>> instead of 32 bit registers
>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:Oa2t1xkEIHA.1316@xxxxxx
>>>> People buying 64bit hardware with 32bit software installed are NOT
>>>> being hoodwinked. They are getting the OS that is most likely to be
>>>> compatible with hardware generally available for home/small office use.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are having to run a 64bit mission critical application which
>>>> requires more than 4gb RAM, there is presently little advantage to
>>>> running a 64bit OS.
>>>>
>>>> You would be well advised to re-instate your 32bit OS by whatever means
>>>> you have at your disposal..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron
>>>>> 531.
>>>>> It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS as
>>>>> it was 32 bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
>>>>> After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
>>>>> "windows is loading files..."
>>>>> copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
>>>>> and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
>>>>>
>>>>> I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
>>>>> all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
>>>>> (and most probably don't comprehend it).
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
>>>>> possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ceestand
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 

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#10
I agree and I never said or claimed that it did in fact I though I stated
that it did not especially if you were using 32 bit apps.
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eMX9QHrEIHA.4772@xxxxxx

> It doesn't make everything twice as fast though, nor anything close..
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
> Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:68CDDBB5-DCAD-479F-8FC4-985F7CAE32DF@xxxxxx

>>I disagree.
>> I am fully aware that 32 bit apps still run as 32 bit ps. However, you do
>> seem to be aware that the OS itself is a 64 bit app and therefore runs
>> faster and all blocks of data moved by the OS move in 1/2 the time as I
>> stated in my previous post.
>> I understand also that almost all drivers that are available in 32 bit
>> Vista are now available also in 64 bit vista since once the vendors
>> supplied 32 bit drivers for all of their products they worked to provide
>> 64 bit drivers for the same products.
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eSlh5dmEIHA.5044@xxxxxx

>>> 64bit Vista will run 32bit apps, but still runs them as 32bit. Unless
>>> ported to 64bit, there is no perceptible performance gain, but there is
>>> a hit in that drivers for some devices may not be available for 64bit,
>>> especially devices squarely aimed at the home user.
>>>
>>> Until there is a mass move to 64bit applications, use of a 64bit OS is
>>> still much of a niche, and can't be fully recommended at this point in
>>> time for all users.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>> Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:087513B8-7BB0-4878-9F79-327CDA3650A5@xxxxxx
>>>> Although the OP probably does not have any 64 bit user applications
>>>> installed he will get the benefit of the OS itself being a 64 bit
>>>> program means that the new 64 bit instructions which combine the
>>>> contents of 2 32 bit instructions can execute in one machine cycle
>>>> instead of 2 machine cycles using a 32 bit OS.
>>>> Also the OP would get the benefit of moving blocks of data 64 bits per
>>>> machine cycle instead of 2 in the 64 bit OS uses has 64 bit registers
>>>> instead of 32 bit registers
>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:Oa2t1xkEIHA.1316@xxxxxx
>>>>> People buying 64bit hardware with 32bit software installed are NOT
>>>>> being hoodwinked. They are getting the OS that is most likely to be
>>>>> compatible with hardware generally available for home/small office
>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you are having to run a 64bit mission critical application
>>>>> which requires more than 4gb RAM, there is presently little advantage
>>>>> to running a 64bit OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> You would be well advised to re-instate your 32bit OS by whatever
>>>>> means you have at your disposal..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "ceestand" <ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ceestand.2yoio8@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having trouble installing Windows Vista 64-bit on my Inspiron
>>>>>> 531.
>>>>>> It shipped with Vista 32 bit. I couldn't install from inside the OS
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> it was 32 bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wiped the HD and tried booting with the 64 disk.
>>>>>> After the bios and RAID screens, it goes:
>>>>>> "windows is loading files..."
>>>>>> copyright microsoft corporation (with bar)
>>>>>> and then hangs and gives me BSOD with stop error 0x0000007E
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've read online that people have had the same problem. I don't think
>>>>>> all the Dell customers out there know they're getting a 32-bit system
>>>>>> (and most probably don't comprehend it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm wondering, is if I manage to install XP 64-bit, could it
>>>>>> possibly help by allowing me to install Vista over it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ceestand
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 

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