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Desparate to recover an updated attachment!

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Melanie928

#1
I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message with Word
2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the "Save" icon
occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not thinking, when I
was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of Word to
close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the document with the
changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email message, it
doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the 2nd
version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file name when I do
a Save As.

Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
 

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Michael Walraven

#2
You may be out of luck, When you opened it from the email it probably was
assigned a temporary file name in a temporary location. When you were
'finished' it may have gotten saved to that temporary location and then,
because it was 'temporary' it may have been deleted. Searching for it (all
doc files since yesterday for instance) will probably not be effective using
the Vista search tools. I would recommend that you download 'Agent Ransack'
and use it to search for your file. But I don't have much hope.

http://www.mythicsoft.com (there is a free and a pay version, I use the
free).



I am sure that you know now that a better way would have been to save the
attachment at a place of your choosing and editing it from there.

Michael

"Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6ABC150F-FE9C-4A10-BBFC-8AC0000F6DB4@xxxxxx

> I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message with Word
> 2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the "Save" icon
> occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not thinking, when I
> was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of Word to
> close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the document with
> the
> changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email message,
> it
> doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the 2nd
> version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file name when I
> do
> a Save As.
>
> Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
 

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Melanie928

#3
I usually save the attachment to my hard drive immediately, but today I was
distracted. I did a test on another email attachment later and it did save
the changes to the attachment in the original message. Not sure why the one
I need didn't.

I'm going to try Agent Ransack and see if it can find a temp or backup file.

Thanks.

"Michael Walraven" wrote:

> You may be out of luck, When you opened it from the email it probably was
> assigned a temporary file name in a temporary location. When you were
> 'finished' it may have gotten saved to that temporary location and then,
> because it was 'temporary' it may have been deleted. Searching for it (all
> doc files since yesterday for instance) will probably not be effective using
> the Vista search tools. I would recommend that you download 'Agent Ransack'
> and use it to search for your file. But I don't have much hope.
>
> http://www.mythicsoft.com (there is a free and a pay version, I use the
> free).
>
>
>
> I am sure that you know now that a better way would have been to save the
> attachment at a place of your choosing and editing it from there.
>
> Michael
>
> "Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:6ABC150F-FE9C-4A10-BBFC-8AC0000F6DB4@xxxxxx

> > I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message with Word
> > 2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the "Save" icon
> > occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not thinking, when I
> > was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of Word to
> > close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the document with
> > the
> > changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email message,
> > it
> > doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the 2nd
> > version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file name when I
> > do
> > a Save As.
> >
> > Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
>
>
 

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Melanie928

#4
I love Agent Ransack! It found the temporary file that held all the changes
I made to the document. Thanks so much!

"Michael Walraven" wrote:

> You may be out of luck, When you opened it from the email it probably was
> assigned a temporary file name in a temporary location. When you were
> 'finished' it may have gotten saved to that temporary location and then,
> because it was 'temporary' it may have been deleted. Searching for it (all
> doc files since yesterday for instance) will probably not be effective using
> the Vista search tools. I would recommend that you download 'Agent Ransack'
> and use it to search for your file. But I don't have much hope.
>
> http://www.mythicsoft.com (there is a free and a pay version, I use the
> free).
>
>
>
> I am sure that you know now that a better way would have been to save the
> attachment at a place of your choosing and editing it from there.
>
> Michael
>
> "Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:6ABC150F-FE9C-4A10-BBFC-8AC0000F6DB4@xxxxxx

> > I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message with Word
> > 2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the "Save" icon
> > occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not thinking, when I
> > was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of Word to
> > close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the document with
> > the
> > changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email message,
> > it
> > doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the 2nd
> > version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file name when I
> > do
> > a Save As.
> >
> > Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
>
>
 

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Ron Sommer

#5
There is no mechanism to save changes back to an email attachment in the
original message.
I don't know the procedure that you used.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:469DD018-C9E6-4C52-ABFD-FD11635E747E@xxxxxx

> I usually save the attachment to my hard drive immediately, but today I
> was
> distracted. I did a test on another email attachment later and it did
> save
> the changes to the attachment in the original message. Not sure why the
> one
> I need didn't.
>
> I'm going to try Agent Ransack and see if it can find a temp or backup
> file.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Michael Walraven" wrote:
>

>> You may be out of luck, When you opened it from the email it probably was
>> assigned a temporary file name in a temporary location. When you were
>> 'finished' it may have gotten saved to that temporary location and then,
>> because it was 'temporary' it may have been deleted. Searching for it
>> (all
>> doc files since yesterday for instance) will probably not be effective
>> using
>> the Vista search tools. I would recommend that you download 'Agent
>> Ransack'
>> and use it to search for your file. But I don't have much hope.
>>
>> http://www.mythicsoft.com (there is a free and a pay version, I use the
>> free).
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure that you know now that a better way would have been to save the
>> attachment at a place of your choosing and editing it from there.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> "Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:6ABC150F-FE9C-4A10-BBFC-8AC0000F6DB4@xxxxxx

>> > I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message with
>> > Word
>> > 2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the "Save"
>> > icon
>> > occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not thinking,
>> > when I
>> > was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of Word
>> > to
>> > close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the document
>> > with
>> > the
>> > changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email
>> > message,
>> > it
>> > doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the 2nd
>> > version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file name
>> > when I
>> > do
>> > a Save As.
>> >
>> > Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
>>
>>
 

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Robert Aldwinckle

#6
"Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B16BB649-CBD4-4D59-88B7-16365C47A924@xxxxxx

> I love Agent Ransack! It found the temporary file that held all the changes
> I made to the document. Thanks so much!

Can you elaborate please on whether your utility found a deleted file
and undeleted it or just found a file in the TIF which had been abandoned?
AFAIK the only way that the latter could have happened is if you had
closed the E-mail window which contained your attachment
before you closed the application which was launched by opening it.

Another possibility that I have asked Word users about before is
whether they could find their work saved as an Undo file.
Presumably that possibility could only exist when Word is not used
after the error with the attachment is made. I don't use Word
so this idea is just speculation on my part. Usually I cross-post these
answers to a Word NG but I won't bother this time.


TIA

Robert Aldwinckle
---


>
> "Michael Walraven" wrote:
>

>> You may be out of luck, When you opened it from the email it probably was
>> assigned a temporary file name in a temporary location. When you were
>> 'finished' it may have gotten saved to that temporary location and then,
>> because it was 'temporary' it may have been deleted. Searching for it (all
>> doc files since yesterday for instance) will probably not be effective using
>> the Vista search tools. I would recommend that you download 'Agent Ransack'
>> and use it to search for your file. But I don't have much hope.
>>
>> http://www.mythicsoft.com (there is a free and a pay version, I use the
>> free).
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure that you know now that a better way would have been to save the
>> attachment at a place of your choosing and editing it from there.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> "Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:6ABC150F-FE9C-4A10-BBFC-8AC0000F6DB4@xxxxxx

>> > I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message with Word
>> > 2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the "Save" icon
>> > occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not thinking, when I
>> > was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of Word to
>> > close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the document with
>> > the
>> > changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email message,
>> > it
>> > doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the 2nd
>> > version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file name when I
>> > do
>> > a Save As.
>> >
>> > Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
>>
>>
 

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Michael Walraven

#7
Glad to have been of help.
Michael


"Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B16BB649-CBD4-4D59-88B7-16365C47A924@xxxxxx

> I love Agent Ransack! It found the temporary file that held all the
> changes
> I made to the document. Thanks so much!
>
> "Michael Walraven" wrote:
>

>> You may be out of luck, When you opened it from the email it probably was
>> assigned a temporary file name in a temporary location. When you were
>> 'finished' it may have gotten saved to that temporary location and then,
>> because it was 'temporary' it may have been deleted. Searching for it
>> (all
>> doc files since yesterday for instance) will probably not be effective
>> using
>> the Vista search tools. I would recommend that you download 'Agent
>> Ransack'
>> and use it to search for your file. But I don't have much hope.
>>
>> http://www.mythicsoft.com (there is a free and a pay version, I use the
>> free).
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure that you know now that a better way would have been to save the
>> attachment at a place of your choosing and editing it from there.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> "Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:6ABC150F-FE9C-4A10-BBFC-8AC0000F6DB4@xxxxxx

>> > I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message with
>> > Word
>> > 2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the "Save"
>> > icon
>> > occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not thinking,
>> > when I
>> > was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of Word
>> > to
>> > close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the document
>> > with
>> > the
>> > changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email
>> > message,
>> > it
>> > doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the 2nd
>> > version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file name
>> > when I
>> > do
>> > a Save As.
>> >
>> > Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
>>
>>
 

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Michael Santovec

#8
WLM works different than Outlook Express. It appears, at least on my PC
(XP with WLM version 12), that it never even tries to delete attachments
from the TIF. They seem to stay there indefinitely. (Until you clear
the TIF including offline content). If you go looking you may be
surprised at all the attachments that are still there.

Any attachments, if they are still there, will Not show if you look at
the TIF from IE or the Windows Explorer normally. You will be able to
see them if you use Start, Run and enter the command:

%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\
or
C:\Documents and Settings\XXXX\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\

where XXXX is the Windows user. This assumes that you have not moved
the TIF. You can check the actual location by looking in IE at Tools,
Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings. The
\Content.IE5\ at the end is import or else you won't be able to see all
the files. You should see 4 folders with names such as A1B2C3D4.
You'll need to look in each folder for the missing files. The Search
function won't work.

An alternate access method is to open a Command Prompt window and use
"DOS" commands to locate and copy the file elsewhere. If you start at
the folder above the TIF and use the command
DIR /A /S *.DOC
(or whatever the file extension is) it will indicate if the file is
still there. You'll need to use a COPY command to copy the file
elsewhere. This will be cumbersome because of the peculiar folder
names.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B16BB649-CBD4-4D59-88B7-16365C47A924@xxxxxx

>> I love Agent Ransack! It found the temporary file that held all the
>> changes
>> I made to the document. Thanks so much!
>
>
> Can you elaborate please on whether your utility found a deleted file
> and undeleted it or just found a file in the TIF which had been
> abandoned?
> AFAIK the only way that the latter could have happened is if you had
> closed the E-mail window which contained your attachment
> before you closed the application which was launched by opening it.
>
> Another possibility that I have asked Word users about before is
> whether they could find their work saved as an Undo file.
> Presumably that possibility could only exist when Word is not used
> after the error with the attachment is made. I don't use Word
> so this idea is just speculation on my part. Usually I cross-post
> these
> answers to a Word NG but I won't bother this time.
>
>
> TIA
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>

>>
>> "Michael Walraven" wrote:
>>

>>> You may be out of luck, When you opened it from the email it
>>> probably was
>>> assigned a temporary file name in a temporary location. When you
>>> were
>>> 'finished' it may have gotten saved to that temporary location and
>>> then,
>>> because it was 'temporary' it may have been deleted. Searching for
>>> it (all
>>> doc files since yesterday for instance) will probably not be
>>> effective using
>>> the Vista search tools. I would recommend that you download 'Agent
>>> Ransack'
>>> and use it to search for your file. But I don't have much hope.
>>>
>>> http://www.mythicsoft.com (there is a free and a pay version, I use
>>> the
>>> free).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am sure that you know now that a better way would have been to
>>> save the
>>> attachment at a place of your choosing and editing it from there.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> "Melanie928" <Melanie928@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:6ABC150F-FE9C-4A10-BBFC-8AC0000F6DB4@xxxxxx
>>> > I opened an Word document that was attached to an email message
>>> > with Word
>>> > 2007. I did a lot of updates to the document, clicking on the
>>> > "Save" icon
>>> > occasionally to make sure I didn't lose the changes. Not
>>> > thinking, when I
>>> > was done, I clicked on the "x" in the upper right hand corner of
>>> > Word to
>>> > close to the document. Now I can't find the version of the
>>> > document with
>>> > the
>>> > changes. When I open the document that's attached to the email
>>> > message,
>>> > it
>>> > doesn't have the changes. Although it looks like it's opening the
>>> > 2nd
>>> > version of this attachment since it has a "(2)" after the file
>>> > name when I
>>> > do
>>> > a Save As.
>>> >
>>> > Any ideas how I can find my document with the changes?
>>>
>>>
>
 

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