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Double Post when overclocked

Jake7771

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#1
:sarc: First post in a Forum.... Been fixin and buildin my own for years. Here goes...
When ever I change any settings from stock to OC and reboot or cold start my computer starts for about 3-4 seconds then reboots and most of the time posts on up and runs normal. Every now and then it will reboot a 3rd time but then goes back to stock settings and continues posting. I never get a bsod (bios F2), all power saving options disabled in bios, PCI-E at 100, memory timings loose. Once it posts it runs perfectly. I tried all kinds of different memory timings, goosed the cpu vid to 1.3, raised mch by .1 and fsb volts by .1 in an effort to find out why this posting phenomenon occurs. No matter what I have tried, when I OC this posting regimen occurs. I play Supreme Commander Forged alliance alot and no issues the game just rocks with all the goodies at max and 60fps with fraps. Any smoking grey matter out there with a clue?:confused:
 

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#2
Have you tested the OC by the usual means?

Run memtest, Prime95, Intel Burn Test etc.
 

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Jake7771

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#3
I usually don't run the "stress tests" due to time involved. I have run memtest to completion with no errors. However the problem I am experiencing is only occuring when I do a cold start. I have everything on power surge protection and turn off everything each night and then switch off the surge protectors isolating my system from power completely. In the morning or first start I power on the surge strip wait a few seconds and then hit the power button. It starts up normal, meaning the fans and lights and hardrives start up but just before bios posts (about 3-4 seconds) it reboots like I had hit the reset button manually, and then powers on up at whatever FSB I had selected. I have gone up to 3.2ghz where I am now. I have never BSOD'd in Vista 64 or XP. This seems to be isolated to the mb post up routine. Every now and then it will reboot a 3rd time and if that happens my bios resets itself to stock. If I hit delete and then go back and change it all back to my oc parameters and reboot its fine????? Something in the bios doesn't like what it sees on cold startups. I have my setup go to sleep after 30 minutes, and when I come back and hit the power button it comes to life without any rebooting. I did rma one stick of memory a month ago but the problem still remained with the new stick. Does removing the psu from power have anything to do with this? It never happens unless I have oc'd the bios. Perplexing?
 

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    Q6600
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    GA-X48-DS4 (F2)
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    Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC-8500 4x1gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 Radeon 4850's in Crossfire
    Sound Card
    Creative X-FI PCI Fatal1ty Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hans.G HG-281DPB 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    WD 640gb
    WD 500gb
    PSU
    Antec Tri Power 650w
    Case
    Antec 900
    Cooling
    Zalman cnps9700
    Mouse
    Logitech Laser
    Keyboard
    Microsoft 4000
    Internet Speed
    Smokin! (cable)
    Other Info
    CPU lapped, OC to 3.2ghz. temps 35-38c idle
    My first PC was Atari 520st. First build used a Cyrix 166MMX and Supermicro MB. Been hooked since! Was with AMD till C2.

Everlong

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#4
Only thing I can think of is what you said, and it might be something to do with removing power totally from the computer when you turn the surge strip off.

If you turn your PC off for the night, but leave the surge strip on, do you have the same problem?
 

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    XFX MB-750I-72P9 NF750i
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    ASUS Nvidia Geforce GTX470
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    ASUS Xonar DX
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    750 watt Thermaltake Toughpower
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    Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition)
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smarteyeball

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It sounds kind of similar to what happens to mine occasionaly. If I turn the PSU off while doing some inside work etc and then start the comptuer cold, my system powers up for a few seconds, at pre-POST it 'turns off' again and then restarts and continues to boot normally. It only ever happens after the MB has been without power for any length of time. I too am overclocked and can't remember if this occured at stock speeds.

I also have it connected through a surge protector, but I don't switch that off.

As to what causes it, I don't know. I just put it down to being a feature, not a bug ;)
 

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    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
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    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0

archie123

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#6
Do you have a Gigabyte motherboard by any chance?
 

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    XFX 780i
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    Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22"
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Jake7771

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#7
Yep, its a GA-X48-DS4 with F2 bios. Is this a Gigabyte anomaly? I have had no other problems but the occasional first post reboot and an extremely rare 3rd boot that resets bios to stock. I have absolutley no problems once I boot into Vista64, or XPpro or Windows 7.:huh: I play Supreme Commander, and Sins of Solar Empire maxed out with no problems.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    ME
    CPU
    Q6600
    Motherboard
    GA-X48-DS4 (F2)
    Memory
    Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC-8500 4x1gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 Radeon 4850's in Crossfire
    Sound Card
    Creative X-FI PCI Fatal1ty Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hans.G HG-281DPB 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    WD 640gb
    WD 500gb
    PSU
    Antec Tri Power 650w
    Case
    Antec 900
    Cooling
    Zalman cnps9700
    Mouse
    Logitech Laser
    Keyboard
    Microsoft 4000
    Internet Speed
    Smokin! (cable)
    Other Info
    CPU lapped, OC to 3.2ghz. temps 35-38c idle
    My first PC was Atari 520st. First build used a Cyrix 166MMX and Supermicro MB. Been hooked since! Was with AMD till C2.

smarteyeball

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#8
Mines an asus and it does the same-ish thing, so I doubt it's just a gigabyte issue.
 

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    Self Built
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    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0

archie123

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It is Gigabyte thing yes , mine did it when i first got my cpu to 3.4 gig , it jsut went away on its own?? lots of gigabyte owner/overclockers seem to suffer from it , it doesnt seem to do any harm
 

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    Intel Q9550 @ 4Gig / Titan Fenir
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    XFX 780i
    Memory
    4GB OCZ PC2-8500C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GTX260/216 SLI
    Sound Card
    Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital raptor 10000rpm sata
    PSU
    OCZ Modstream 700w
    Cooling
    Titan Fenir
    Mouse
    Logitech G5 Gamer
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    Razer Reclusa
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    8mb

smarteyeball

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#10

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0

Jake7771

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#11
Thanks everyone for the info. Just like some of you, my board suddenly stopped doing the double post on every start and I haven't changed the way I power off as I stated in my earlier posts. I just flashed to the new f3c bios on my GA-X48-DS4 (rev 1.3) due to the new intel ahci rom bios update from the stock 1.07 to the new 1.20 and now my post is much quicker on the ahci rom end of things as the intel rom used to take an additional 5-7 seconds to post.:D
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    ME
    CPU
    Q6600
    Motherboard
    GA-X48-DS4 (F2)
    Memory
    Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC-8500 4x1gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 Radeon 4850's in Crossfire
    Sound Card
    Creative X-FI PCI Fatal1ty Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hans.G HG-281DPB 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    WD 640gb
    WD 500gb
    PSU
    Antec Tri Power 650w
    Case
    Antec 900
    Cooling
    Zalman cnps9700
    Mouse
    Logitech Laser
    Keyboard
    Microsoft 4000
    Internet Speed
    Smokin! (cable)
    Other Info
    CPU lapped, OC to 3.2ghz. temps 35-38c idle
    My first PC was Atari 520st. First build used a Cyrix 166MMX and Supermicro MB. Been hooked since! Was with AMD till C2.

smarteyeball

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#12
Good to hear you sorted it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0

Jake7771

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#13
I think I might have found a link to the double post phenomena. I just bought a MS sidewinder mouse and then a couple of weeks later a MS 4000 keyboard (yesterday). I haven't got a double post since... maybe the ps2 ports had something to do with it as now I am usb entirely. I took my old MS natural multimedia and moved it to my other computer with a p35 gigabyte and e6600 on it. It had usb keyboard (mouse on ps2 w/adapter) prior to this and never doubleposted on oc to 2.7ghz, until I booted up with the ps2 keyboard port in use. I got a double post immediately and then reset bios to stock. It wouldn't take any effort to oc after that and just double posts and resets. It must be something on the isa bus that powers the ps2 keyboard port. The keyboard functions fine with intelletype6.3. That system runs xp64 btw. I would like to know if you other guys with this phenomena are running ps2 or usb keyboards?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    ME
    CPU
    Q6600
    Motherboard
    GA-X48-DS4 (F2)
    Memory
    Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC-8500 4x1gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 Radeon 4850's in Crossfire
    Sound Card
    Creative X-FI PCI Fatal1ty Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hans.G HG-281DPB 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    WD 640gb
    WD 500gb
    PSU
    Antec Tri Power 650w
    Case
    Antec 900
    Cooling
    Zalman cnps9700
    Mouse
    Logitech Laser
    Keyboard
    Microsoft 4000
    Internet Speed
    Smokin! (cable)
    Other Info
    CPU lapped, OC to 3.2ghz. temps 35-38c idle
    My first PC was Atari 520st. First build used a Cyrix 166MMX and Supermicro MB. Been hooked since! Was with AMD till C2.

smarteyeball

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#14
USB keyboard here. But it also occurred with only a ps/2 plugged in or only a USB bluetooth dongle. :huh:

I stumbled across another possible explanation:
when the system is switched back on what remains of that power in the capacitors try's to power the system on, but can't because of the "break" in the flow of power, hence why the system shuts off, and moments later powers up again.
It makes as much sense as anything else. However it's a bit worrying that even though you think you've discharged power before removing/installing components, that there might actually still be a charge in the mobo :shock:
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0

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