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Firewire (IEEE 1394) not working

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#1
I can´t connect my video camera Sony DV with the firewire connection.
I tried the two connections (frontal and back).I am using the 9 pin
connector
Before installing Vista It worked perfectly.
I can connect to my laptop (with a 6 pin cable) and to another older
computer with windows XP with the same 9 pin cable without problems.
As anybody a solution ?
 

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Cari \(MS-MVP\)

#2
Does the IEEE 1394 port show up in Device Manager under it's Bus host
controller entry? If this port is on the motherboard, did you remember to
install the motherboard utility drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's
website?
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"Hugo" <hugovdb@cosefa.com.ar> wrote in message
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>I can´t connect my video camera Sony DV with the firewire connection.
> I tried the two connections (frontal and back).I am using the 9 pin
> connector
> Before installing Vista It worked perfectly.
> I can connect to my laptop (with a 6 pin cable) and to another older
> computer with windows XP with the same 9 pin cable without problems.
> As anybody a solution ?
 

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H
#3
Yes. under the Bus host controler appears "Texas Instrument OHCI compliant
IEEE 1394 host controller". The same as in another computer where I have no
problems.
When I connect the Sony DV camcorder on my laptop (Windows XP) I hear a
sound and in Windows explorer appears as a drive the camera. At the same
time in the Device Manager under Imaging Devicer also appears the DV
camcorder.
Nothing of this happens with my desktop con Vista. The drivers for the IEEE
port are from Microsoft version 6.0....


"Cari (MS-MVP)" <NewsGroups@coribright.com> escribió en el mensaje de
noticias news:e7pBDeg5HHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Does the IEEE 1394 port show up in Device Manager under it's Bus host
> controller entry? If this port is on the motherboard, did you remember to
> install the motherboard utility drivers from the motherboard
> manufacturer's website?
> --
> Cari (MS-MVP)
> Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
> http://www.coribright.com/windows
>
> "Hugo" <hugovdb@cosefa.com.ar> wrote in message
> news:9742BFE3-F0FF-479D-AB9F-061BFDBDE347@microsoft.com...
>>I can´t connect my video camera Sony DV with the firewire connection.
>> I tried the two connections (frontal and back).I am using the 9 pin
>> connector
>> Before installing Vista It worked perfectly.
>> I can connect to my laptop (with a 6 pin cable) and to another older
>> computer with windows XP with the same 9 pin cable without problems.
>> As anybody a solution ?

>
 

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vibhub

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#4
I have Sony DCR-TRV18E Digital Video Camera. When I try to import the video using a 4-pin IEEE1394 cable on Windows Vista using Microsoft Movie Maker, I get the message that my camera is not connected to the laptop.

Is there any driver that needs to be installed or could there be a problem in the cable itself?

Vibhu
 

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Cari \(MS-MVP\)

#5
A 4pin to 4pin 1394 cable isn't powered like a 6pin one. If you're using a
notebook and only have access to 4pin (either end) then ensure you have the
camcorder using A/C power, which should be enough to keep the connection
going. If you are on a desktop, use the 6pin (PC end) to 4pin (camcorder
end) and you should get a good connection.
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"vibhub" <vibhub.35l3z7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> I have Sony DCR-TRV18E Digital Video Camera. When I try to import the
> video using a 4-pin IEEE1394 cable on Windows Vista using Microsoft
> Movie Maker, I get the message that my camera is not connected to the
> laptop.
>
> Is there any driver that needs to be installed or could there be a
> problem in the cable itself?
>
> Vibhu
>
>
> --
> vibhub
 

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Giant Rumblebuffin

#6
The first time this 'unsovable question has had an intelligent answer!

I can add a reasonable one too. If you are somewhere without power....like
in the bush....use a 4 pin firewire to USB cable


"Cari (MS-MVP)" <newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>A 4pin to 4pin 1394 cable isn't powered like a 6pin one. If you're using a
>notebook and only have access to 4pin (either end) then ensure you have the
>camcorder using A/C power, which should be enough to keep the connection
>going. If you are on a desktop, use the 6pin (PC end) to 4pin (camcorder
>end) and you should get a good connection.
> --
> Cari (MS-MVP) Printing & Imaging
> www.coribright.com/windows
>
> "vibhub" <vibhub.35l3z7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:vibhub.35l3z7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...

>>
>> I have Sony DCR-TRV18E Digital Video Camera. When I try to import the
>> video using a 4-pin IEEE1394 cable on Windows Vista using Microsoft
>> Movie Maker, I get the message that my camera is not connected to the
>> laptop.
>>
>> Is there any driver that needs to be installed or could there be a
>> problem in the cable itself?
>>
>> Vibhu
>>
>>
>> --
>> vibhub
>
>
 

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joshwenning

#7
I am having a similar issue as well. My Canon ZR800 was recognized and
working perfectly last week with the DV (4 -pin) out of the camera into the
4-pin IEEE 1394 port on my Dell Vostro. However, now when I hook it up again
the computer recognizes it (pings), it shows up in the registry, but there is
a yellow triangle with an exclamation point and the machine is asking for a
driver. Canon says the driver is pre-installed in Vista, Dell says it is a
Vista issue, Microsoft said to come here. I have tried downloading the
recommended hotfix without any luck. Cameras are plugged in and cords are
new. Again, it worked last week, now it doesn't...
 

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aviewfromhaifa

#8
On Mar 28, 11:05 pm, joshwenning
<joshwenn...@xxxxxx> wrote:

> I am having a similar issue as well. My Canon ZR800 was recognized and
> working perfectly last week with the DV (4 -pin) out of the camera into the
> 4-pin IEEE 1394 port on my Dell Vostro. However, now when I hook it up again
> the computer recognizes it (pings), it shows up in the registry, but there is
> a yellow triangle with an exclamation point and the machine is asking for a
> driver. Canon says the driver is pre-installed in Vista, Dell says it is a
> Vista issue, Microsoft said to come here. I have tried downloading the
> recommended hotfix without any luck. Cameras are plugged in and cords are
> new. Again, it worked last week, now it doesn't...
Same here. Working last week and now not. I have a feeling it has to
do with a security patch that vista installed in an update. I also
suddenly don't see my power and sound displays on the lower right
corner. Thanks Vista you've done it again. Adobe please port to
Linux so I can dumb Windows forever, what a dream.
 

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3banana

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#9
Having scoured the internet for info I finally came across a tip incorporated below to fix my Sony camcorder to Vista 1394 firewire problem

Shuttle XPC SB75G2
P4 3.07
1Gb Mem
ATI 256Mb 1950XT
dual 360Gb SATA drives
Vista Ultimate

Sony DCR-PC330e camcorder

Before:
Vista says 1394 driver Ok
plug in camera- no response from Vista when camera is connected


procedure; (that worked for me)

In device manager
Uninstall 1394 device
turn camera on
plug in to 1394 port

in device manager;
Action/scan for hardware changes
system sees 1394 port, installs driver automatically

system then detected Sony DV-VCR automatically
manualy install driver by right clicking it in Device manager and selecting 'update driver software'
do not let it do it automatically, select 'browse my computer for driver software'
point it at c:\windows

it detects it as a 61883 class bus device and installs driver
camcorder appears in device manager as imaging device
after completion it brought up the autoplay window to ask how I wanted to import the video


jobsagoodun:party:

hope this helps:cool:
 

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pablo dee

#10
NOPE doesn't work on my system... it's a Vista problem... I'm running
Ultimate and a panasonic cam that works fine on my XP machine won't even
be recognised on my Vista pc .... a friend who has a sony cam and a
different pc has the same issue so it's NOT a hardware issue it's the
OS... i notice that some manufacturers (ie Epson) are now telling
customers that Vista WILL NOT WORK with firewire ... i checked some of
the support areas on here and it looks like MS is intentionally reducing
the support for firewire ... I think they should highlight this when you
purchase Vista as it is sold as being designed for multimedia and
firewire is very popular ... i should have got a XP machine :( boo hoo
... next time I purchase a pc i don't think it will be one using an MS
OS !


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I use a Firewire Direct NitroAV Firewire 800 controller in Vista x64 Ultimate. Do you have the drivers installed in the device manager?
 

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#12
Here's my story.... any more input on resolutions! Pleae reply.

I bought Vista (Home Edition 32-bit) in December '07 from Dell. For 5
months, my Sony Hi8 DV Camcorder worked great. I could download movies
without a problem using a 4 to 6 pin firewire cable (IEEE 1394) right into
Adobe Premier Elements 4.0 for editing.

Until May... at some point, the same camera via the same firewire cable is
now no longer recognized by the computer, or by the software, and doesn't
even appear in my device manager list. The only change I made was the
purchase of a Dell 22" LCD monitor with an intregal webcam.

I talked with Dell online, and they want me to revert to factory settings. I
didn't do this. I talked with Adobe online and they suggested deleting the
firewire port registry key. I didn't do this. I talked with Sony and they
said to have the camera fixed. I decided to have the camera serviced for $110.

Unfortunately, that did not fix the problem. The camera is still not
recognized. Thinking it might be the webcam drivers blocking the imaging
device, I tried to uninstall all the components of that webcam, but I don't
know if I did it correctly, because that didn't seem to work. And Vista goes
looking for the webcam drivers and loads it again.

I bought a new Sony mini-DV camera. That does not work either.

The cables and ports I have used all work because it allows me to plug in
and use my Sony CD/DVD-ROM device.

Any ideas why it would just stop working? And any ideas on how to get Vista
to recognize my camera?
 

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Expertz

#13
FIREWIRE (IEEE 1394) TROUBLESHOOTING

'Description of 1394 Connection in Windows XP '
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307736/en-us)

This article describes the 1394 connection in Windows XP. Windows XP
provides support for Internet Protocol (IP) networking over the IEEE
1394 bus. The interface is listed in the Network Connections folder as
"1394 Connection".

'Using IEEE 1394 (FireWire) Devices with Windows XP'
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310433/en-us)

This article describes the Institute of Electrical and Electronic
Engineers (IEEE) 1394 standard and how to use IEEE 1394 with Microsoft
Windows XP. NOTE : Apple Computer FireWire is a common implementation of
the IEEE 1394 standard.

'General Troubleshooting for IEEE 1394 Devices and Host Controllers'
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314873/en-us)

This article lists basic steps for troubleshooting Institute of
Electrical and Electronics Engineering (IEEE) 1394 devices and host
controllers.

'1394 Storage Device Does Not Work After You Insert or Remove 1394
Device' (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311430/en-us)

A 1394 storage device with more than one Logical Unit Number (LUN) may
stop functioning if another 1394 device is either inserted or removed
from the computer.

For more check out 'this' (http://kadaitcha.cx/xp/firewire.html) link


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Having scoured the internet for info I finally came across a tip incorporated below to fix my Sony camcorder to Vista 1394 firewire problem

Shuttle XPC SB75G2
P4 3.07
1Gb Mem
ATI 256Mb 1950XT
dual 360Gb SATA drives
Vista Ultimate

Sony DCR-PC330e camcorder

Before:
Vista says 1394 driver Ok
plug in camera- no response from Vista when camera is connected


procedure; (that worked for me)

In device manager
Uninstall 1394 device
turn camera on
plug in to 1394 port

in device manager;
Action/scan for hardware changes
system sees 1394 port, installs driver automatically

system then detected Sony DV-VCR automatically
manualy install driver by right clicking it in Device manager and selecting 'update driver software'
do not let it do it automatically, select 'browse my computer for driver software'
point it at c:\windows

it detects it as a 61883 class bus device and installs driver
camcorder appears in device manager as imaging device
after completion it brought up the autoplay window to ask how I wanted to import the video
Great result, but didn;'t work for me either.

This seems ot be a problem for lots of people on the net, and I have given up trying to fix fire wire and resorted to a USB Video Capture cable. Do a sear4ch for one of those to import your video camera VGA signal intot he computer.
 

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Bucerias

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Having scoured the internet for info I finally came across a tip incorporated below to fix my Sony camcorder to Vista 1394 firewire problem

Shuttle XPC SB75G2
P4 3.07
1Gb Mem
ATI 256Mb 1950XT
dual 360Gb SATA drives
Vista Ultimate

Sony DCR-PC330e camcorder

Before:
Vista says 1394 driver Ok
plug in camera- no response from Vista when camera is connected


procedure; (that worked for me)

In device manager
Uninstall 1394 device
turn camera on
plug in to 1394 port

in device manager;
Action/scan for hardware changes
system sees 1394 port, installs driver automatically

system then detected Sony DV-VCR automatically
manualy install driver by right clicking it in Device manager and selecting 'update driver software'
do not let it do it automatically, select 'browse my computer for driver software'
point it at c:\windows

it detects it as a 61883 class bus device and installs driver
camcorder appears in device manager as imaging device
after completion it brought up the autoplay window to ask how I wanted to import the video


jobsagoodun:party:

hope this helps:cool:
I am running Vista Home Premium 32 bit on my Acer laptop. The pcmcia firewire works on my neighbors XP laptop but not on my laptop. Do you think the jobsagoodun solution would work for my Canon camcorder connected to the firewire? I sure hope someone can help me. I am new to this site. Bucerias
 

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KevReid

#16
I have been having the same problem - only in my case I can sometimes
get the camera to be recognised. I have the same problem on a Laptop
with XP sp2 and on Vista ultimate.

I found this link

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222

and follwed the registry edits to get mine to a state where it is more
reliable.

The problem appears to be with older firewire enabled cameras. When XP
SP 2 was released microsoft changed the SipSpeed setting from 100 to 400
but this can be too fast for some older equipment.

I created the SipSpeed entry in the registry and XP2 was fine.

I took a chance making the same change for Vista and it looks a lot
more reliable since then.

I guess there could be some newer cameras that have the same problem as
well if they have the old firewire connection speed.

Good Luck


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Having scoured the internet for info I finally came across a tip incorporated below to fix my Sony camcorder to Vista 1394 firewire problem

Shuttle XPC SB75G2
P4 3.07
1Gb Mem
ATI 256Mb 1950XT
dual 360Gb SATA drives
Vista Ultimate

Sony DCR-PC330e camcorder

Before:
Vista says 1394 driver Ok
plug in camera- no response from Vista when camera is connected


procedure; (that worked for me)

In device manager
Uninstall 1394 device
turn camera on
plug in to 1394 port

in device manager;
Action/scan for hardware changes
system sees 1394 port, installs driver automatically

system then detected Sony DV-VCR automatically
manualy install driver by right clicking it in Device manager and selecting 'update driver software'
do not let it do it automatically, select 'browse my computer for driver software'
point it at c:\windows

it detects it as a 61883 class bus device and installs driver
camcorder appears in device manager as imaging device
after completion it brought up the autoplay window to ask how I wanted to import the video


jobsagoodun:party:

hope this helps:cool:

Worked perfect. 64 Ultimate Pan PVGS50D > ToshU405. 4 <-> IEEE. Thanks. Was struggling for a few.
 

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Strange that when you search for this exact problem on Google you come up with a million questions, and no real answers...

I am probably more frustrated than anyone else on here, because it has worked on my Vista computer in the past, and now isn't!

I have a Dell XPS with 1394 on board, using a Ricoh 1394 driver. I have restarted, bought a new firewire cable, tried using the USB, resetting the camera, unplugging, replugging, uninstalling the 1394 device, Searching for updates etc... to no avail.


Bottom line, my devices show a 1394 device, and show the driver as the most updated, but when I plug in a working Sony Camcorder (DCR-TRV38) I don't get a ba-ding at all. I suspected a bad cable, so bought a brand new one, still nothing.

I am using Adobe Premier Pro CS2 to attempt the importing, and have done so successfully in the past. There are even videos on this computer that I have captured from this camera with this unit.

I am out of ideas.

Lastly, when I plug in the USB as a last gasp effort to download stuff, it tried to find a driver, then said there was a compatibility issue with the Sony and Vista. After reading that three or so times I accidentally in a fit of rage pressed "don't tell me this anymore with this device" or something, and now wish I hadn't. Any way to undo that little drama?

Thanks for any help. I have important video on this camera that I am trying to capture to help me in a frivolous lawsuit against me by someone trying to weasel out of paying a bill, and need to get to it quickly.

I can´t connect my video camera Sony DV with the firewire connection.
I tried the two connections (frontal and back).I am using the 9 pin
connector
Before installing Vista It worked perfectly.
I can connect to my laptop (with a 6 pin cable) and to another older
computer with windows XP with the same 9 pin cable without problems.
As anybody a solution ?
 

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