FolderShare vs Windows Live Sync log-ins

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

[Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]

My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in Nov-05.
Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT associated with a
Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).

Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will they
log-in after the transition?

Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current FolderShare
log-in in anticipation of the transition?

Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID once
the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)

I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be in the
same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.

Thanks.
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~PA Bear
 

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StephenB

I would suggest submitting this as an email support request for FolderShare:
https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlfoldershare&ct=eformts
-steve


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>[Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]
>
>My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in Nov-05.
>Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT associated with a
>Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).
>
>Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will they
>log-in after the transition?
>
>Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current FolderShare
>log-in in anticipation of the transition?
>
>Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID once
>the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)
>
>I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be in the
>same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.
>
>Thanks.
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MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
[email protected]
 

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Thanks, Stephen. Good idea. I'll reply to this thread if & when I hear
anything.
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~Robear

StephenB wrote:

> I would suggest submitting this as an email support request for
> FolderShare:
> https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlfoldershare&ct=eformts
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> [Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]
>>
>> My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in Nov-05.
>> Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT associated with a
>> Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).
>>
>> Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will they
>> log-in after the transition?
>>
>> Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current FolderShare
>> log-in in anticipation of the transition?
>>
>> Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID once
>> the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)
>>
>> I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be in
>> the same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.
>>
>> Thanks.
 

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Behold, Windows Live FolderShare Technical Support hath spoken! <w>

<QP>
....I understand that you are concerned that your access to the Windows Live
FolderShare be interrupted once Windows Live Sync has been released. I am
here to address this.

Robear, you are correct that Windows Live Sync will now be incorporated with
Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you will be
prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID services. Be
assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or Sync will not be
interrupted once it goes live.

The information above will help address your inquiry and I appreciate this
opportunity of providing you assistance.

You can also find the answers to some of the most common questions about
Windows Live FolderShare by going to
http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare
</QP>

Now we know. Thanks again, StephenB.

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> Thanks, Stephen. Good idea. I'll reply to this thread if & when I hear
> anything.
>
> StephenB wrote:

>> I would suggest submitting this as an email support request for
>> FolderShare:
>> https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlfoldershare&ct=eformts
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>> [Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]
>>>
>>> My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in
>>> Nov-05.
>>> Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT associated with a
>>> Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).
>>>
>>> Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will they
>>> log-in after the transition?
>>>
>>> Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current FolderShare
>>> log-in in anticipation of the transition?
>>>
>>> Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID
>>> once
>>> the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)
>>>
>>> I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be in
>>> the same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
 

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...winston

That was quick..
Thanks for raising the issue.

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ms-mvp mail


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:#[email protected]

> Behold, Windows Live FolderShare Technical Support hath spoken! <w>
>
> <QP>
> ...I understand that you are concerned that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare be interrupted once Windows Live Sync has
> been released. I am here to address this.
>
> Robear, you are correct that Windows Live Sync will now be incorporated with Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID
> user, you will be prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID services. Be assured that your access to the
> Windows Live FolderShare or Sync will not be interrupted once it goes live.
>
> The information above will help address your inquiry and I appreciate this opportunity of providing you assistance.
>
> You can also find the answers to some of the most common questions about Windows Live FolderShare by going to
> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare
> </QP>
>
> Now we know. Thanks again, StephenB.
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>> Thanks, Stephen. Good idea. I'll reply to this thread if & when I hear
>> anything.
>>
>> StephenB wrote:

>>> I would suggest submitting this as an email support request for
>>> FolderShare:
>>> https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlfoldershare&ct=eformts
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> [Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]
>>>>
>>>> My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in Nov-05.
>>>> Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT associated with a
>>>> Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).
>>>>
>>>> Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will they
>>>> log-in after the transition?
>>>>
>>>> Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current FolderShare
>>>> log-in in anticipation of the transition?
>>>>
>>>> Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID once
>>>> the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)
>>>>
>>>> I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be in
>>>> the same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>
 

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

QED: Would it behoove one to create the new Live ID in advance of the
transition or would doing so (needlessly) complicate matters?

I've pinged Tech Support about this, too.
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~PA Bear

....winston wrote:

> That was quick..
> Thanks for raising the issue.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> Behold, Windows Live FolderShare Technical Support hath spoken! <w>
>>
>> <QP>
>> ...I understand that you are concerned that your access to the Windows
>> Live FolderShare be interrupted once Windows Live Sync has been released.
>> I am here to address this. Robear, you are correct that Windows Live Sync
>> will now be incorporated
>> with Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you will
>> be prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID
>> services. Be assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or
>> Sync will not be interrupted once it goes live. The information above
>> will help address your inquiry and I appreciate this
>> opportunity of providing you assistance. You can also find the answers to
>> some of the most common questions about
>> Windows Live FolderShare by going to
>> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare </QP>
>>
>> Now we know. Thanks again, StephenB.
>>
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>> Thanks, Stephen. Good idea. I'll reply to this thread if & when I hear
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> StephenB wrote:
>>>> I would suggest submitting this as an email support request for
>>>> FolderShare:
>>>> https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlfoldershare&ct=eformts
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>> [Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]
>>>>>
>>>>> My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in
>>>>> Nov-05. Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT
>>>>> associated with a Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will they
>>>>> log-in after the transition?
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current
>>>>> FolderShare
>>>>> log-in in anticipation of the transition?
>>>>>
>>>>> Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID
>>>>> once the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be
>>>>> in
>>>>> the same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.
 

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Support says it'd be perfectly OK to create the new Live ID before being
prompted to do so.
--
~PA Bear

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> QED: Would it behoove one to create the new Live ID in advance of the
> transition or would doing so (needlessly) complicate matters?
>
> I've pinged Tech Support about this, too.
>
> ...winston wrote:

>> That was quick..
>> Thanks for raising the issue.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>> Behold, Windows Live FolderShare Technical Support hath spoken! <w>
>>>
>>> <QP>
>>> ...I understand that you are concerned that your access to the Windows
>>> Live FolderShare be interrupted once Windows Live Sync has been
>>> released.
>>> I am here to address this. Robear, you are correct that Windows Live
>>> Sync
>>> will now be incorporated
>>> with Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you will
>>> be prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID
>>> services. Be assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or
>>> Sync will not be interrupted once it goes live. The information above
>>> will help address your inquiry and I appreciate this
>>> opportunity of providing you assistance. You can also find the answers
>>> to
>>> some of the most common questions about
>>> Windows Live FolderShare by going to
>>> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare </QP>
>>>
>>> Now we know. Thanks again, StephenB.
>>>
>>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Stephen. Good idea. I'll reply to this thread if & when I
>>>> hear
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> StephenB wrote:
>>>>> I would suggest submitting this as an email support request for
>>>>> FolderShare:
>>>>> https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlfoldershare&ct=eformts
>>>>>
>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>> [Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in
>>>>>> Nov-05. Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT
>>>>>> associated with a Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> log-in after the transition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current
>>>>>> FolderShare
>>>>>> log-in in anticipation of the transition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID
>>>>>> once the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.
 

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whois101

First of all, forcing the use of the Live ID is shortsighted. In many
corporations, logging in to the Live ID is blocked by the firewall/proxy due
to the spam-magnet Hotmail/LiveMail (and also productivity reasons). This is
not likely to change.

Aside from the above, the Live-ID has been proven to be accessible to
spammers, even if never used. This makes it also accessible to hackers. Not a
very comfortable ID ... ehhh ... idea.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Support says it'd be perfectly OK to create the new Live ID before being
> prompted to do so.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> > QED: Would it behoove one to create the new Live ID in advance of the
> > transition or would doing so (needlessly) complicate matters?
> >
> > I've pinged Tech Support about this, too.
> >
> > ...winston wrote:

> >> That was quick..
> >> Thanks for raising the issue.
> >>
> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>> Behold, Windows Live FolderShare Technical Support hath spoken! <w>
> >>>
> >>> <QP>
> >>> ...I understand that you are concerned that your access to the Windows
> >>> Live FolderShare be interrupted once Windows Live Sync has been
> >>> released.
> >>> I am here to address this. Robear, you are correct that Windows Live
> >>> Sync
> >>> will now be incorporated
> >>> with Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you will
> >>> be prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID
> >>> services. Be assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or
> >>> Sync will not be interrupted once it goes live. The information above
> >>> will help address your inquiry and I appreciate this
> >>> opportunity of providing you assistance. You can also find the answers
> >>> to
> >>> some of the most common questions about
> >>> Windows Live FolderShare by going to
> >>> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare </QP>
> >>>
> >>> Now we know. Thanks again, StephenB.
> >>>
> >>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> >>>> Thanks, Stephen. Good idea. I'll reply to this thread if & when I
> >>>> hear
> >>>> anything.
> >>>>
> >>>> StephenB wrote:
> >>>>> I would suggest submitting this as an email support request for
> >>>>> FolderShare:
> >>>>> https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlfoldershare&ct=eformts
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>> [Crossposted to FolderShare and Windows Live Sync newsgroups]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My client's been using FolderShare since before MS acquired it in
> >>>>>> Nov-05. Their log-in (i.e., email address and password) is NOT
> >>>>>> associated with a Live ID or a Hotmail account (obviously).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Assuming a Live ID will be required to log-in to WLSync, how will
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>> log-in after the transition?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Should we create a new Live ID associated with their current
> >>>>>> FolderShare
> >>>>>> log-in in anticipation of the transition?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Will their current log-in automatically be associated with a Live ID
> >>>>>> once the transition takes place? (Kinda doubt it.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I imagine there are many other FolderShare users out there who may be
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> the same boat and the WLSync hasn't said a word about this AFAIK.
>
>
 

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David Thornton

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:43:16 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

[snip]

>Robear, you are correct that Windows Live Sync will now be incorporated with
>Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you will be
>prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID services. Be
>assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or Sync will not be
>interrupted once it goes live.
>
>The information above will help address your inquiry and I appreciate this
>opportunity of providing you assistance.
>
>You can also find the answers to some of the most common questions about
>Windows Live FolderShare by going to
>http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare
></QP>
This is not what I have found occurs. I am currently minus all
personal and shared folders with any login I try. See article:
Message-ID: <[email protected]> in
microsoft.public.windows.live.sync Subject: Re: All libraries
disappeared.

None of the accounts I have converted to Live Sync are showing any
personal or shared library information. One was not a Windows Live ID
enabled account but has since been converted to Windows Live ID. The
other (as well as a third) were Windows Live ID enabled.

HELP!
 

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Your are more than welcome to begin your own thread about /your/ issues
instead of hijacking threads of others, David. I wouldn't expect Sync to be
working properly until later next week at the earliest, if I were you. Good
luck


David Thornton wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:43:16 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>

>> Robear, you are correct that Windows Live Sync will now be incorporated
>> with Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you will
>> be
>> prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID services.
>> Be
>> assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or Sync will not
>> be interrupted once it goes live.
>>
>> The information above will help address your inquiry and I appreciate
>> this
>> opportunity of providing you assistance.
>>
>> You can also find the answers to some of the most common questions about
>> Windows Live FolderShare by going to
>> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare
>> </QP>
>
> This is not what I have found occurs. I am currently minus all
> personal and shared folders with any login I try. See article:
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> in
> microsoft.public.windows.live.sync Subject: Re: All libraries
> disappeared.
>
> None of the accounts I have converted to Live Sync are showing any
> personal or shared library information. One was not a Windows Live ID
> enabled account but has since been converted to Windows Live ID. The
> other (as well as a third) were Windows Live ID enabled.
>
> HELP!
 

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David Thornton

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Your are more than welcome to begin your own thread about /your/ issues
>instead of hijacking threads of others, David. I wouldn't expect Sync to be
>working properly until later next week at the earliest, if I were you. Good
>luck
I am amazed at receiving such a ridiculous response. Nobody *owns* a
thread in a newsgroup. It is perfectly legitimate for someone to reply
to an existing thread where their post follows on from articles
already posted in that thread. If everyone started a new thread about
the same or similar issues, rather than replying to existing threads,
it would defeat the point of threaded discussion. You'll also notice
that I have taken the trouble to post underneath your previous
comments, rather than above them. Therefore anyone reading this will
know that what I have written is a response to the quote above. All of
this is good USENET newsgroup etiquette that you should be able to
verify for yourself.

Regarding me *expecting* Live Sync to work properly; Foldershare was
working fine before the decision to turn it off and force everyone to
migrate to Live Sync. I at least expect any migration to give me the
same level of service that I experienced prior to it. I certainly
don't expect to be forced to migrate to a product that performs worse
than the previous version.

David Thornton

>David Thornton wrote:

>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:43:16 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>

>>> Robear, you are correct that Windows Live Sync will now be incorporated
>>> with Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you will
>>> be
>>> prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID services.
>>> Be
>>> assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or Sync will not
>>> be interrupted once it goes live.
>>>
>>> The information above will help address your inquiry and I appreciate
>>> this
>>> opportunity of providing you assistance.
>>>
>>> You can also find the answers to some of the most common questions about
>>> Windows Live FolderShare by going to
>>> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare
>>> </QP>
>>
>> This is not what I have found occurs. I am currently minus all
>> personal and shared folders with any login I try. See article:
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> in
>> microsoft.public.windows.live.sync Subject: Re: All libraries
>> disappeared.
>>
>> None of the accounts I have converted to Live Sync are showing any
>> personal or shared library information. One was not a Windows Live ID
>> enabled account but has since been converted to Windows Live ID. The
>> other (as well as a third) were Windows Live ID enabled.
>>
>> HELP!
 

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

This thread is about how one would log-in to Sync (once it went live) if
one's FolderShare log-in was not associated with a Windows Live ID. It is
not about any Personal or Shared libraries once one has logged-in.

David Thornton wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>

>> Your are more than welcome to begin your own thread about /your/ issues
>> instead of hijacking threads of others, David. I wouldn't expect Sync to
>> be working properly until later next week at the earliest, if I were you.
>> Good luck
>
> I am amazed at receiving such a ridiculous response. Nobody *owns* a
> thread in a newsgroup. It is perfectly legitimate for someone to reply
> to an existing thread where their post follows on from articles
> already posted in that thread. If everyone started a new thread about
> the same or similar issues, rather than replying to existing threads,
> it would defeat the point of threaded discussion. You'll also notice
> that I have taken the trouble to post underneath your previous
> comments, rather than above them. Therefore anyone reading this will
> know that what I have written is a response to the quote above. All of
> this is good USENET newsgroup etiquette that you should be able to
> verify for yourself.
>
> Regarding me *expecting* Live Sync to work properly; Foldershare was
> working fine before the decision to turn it off and force everyone to
> migrate to Live Sync. I at least expect any migration to give me the
> same level of service that I experienced prior to it. I certainly
> don't expect to be forced to migrate to a product that performs worse
> than the previous version.
>
> David Thornton
>

>> David Thornton wrote:

>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:43:16 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> Robear, you are correct that Windows Live Sync will now be incorporated
>>>> with Windows Live ID. Since you are a current non-Live ID user, you
>>>> will
>>>> be
>>>> prompted to register your account to enable it for the Live ID
>>>> services.
>>>> Be
>>>> assured that your access to the Windows Live FolderShare or Sync will
>>>> not
>>>> be interrupted once it goes live.
>>>>
>>>> The information above will help address your inquiry and I appreciate
>>>> this
>>>> opportunity of providing you assistance.
>>>>
>>>> You can also find the answers to some of the most common questions
>>>> about
>>>> Windows Live FolderShare by going to
>>>> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=wl_foldershare
>>>> </QP>
>>>
>>> This is not what I have found occurs. I am currently minus all
>>> personal and shared folders with any login I try. See article:
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> in
>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.sync Subject: Re: All libraries
>>> disappeared.
>>>
>>> None of the accounts I have converted to Live Sync are showing any
>>> personal or shared library information. One was not a Windows Live ID
>>> enabled account but has since been converted to Windows Live ID. The
>>> other (as well as a third) were Windows Live ID enabled.
>>>
>>> HELP!
 

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

No, just the Stay On-Topic Nazi.

PaulD wrote:

> On Dec 14, 2:08 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>

>> This thread is about how one would log-in to Sync (once it went live) if
>> one's FolderShare log-in was not associated with a Windows Live ID. It is
>> not about any Personal or Shared libraries once one has logged-in.
>
> Hark, all of ye: the Thread Nazi has SPOKEN!
 

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