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john ha

I have heard of the "administrator password" for a super-administrator.

But I have never "set" the "administrator password" or "super admin password".

I do, however, have a user account with admin privileges that I set a
password to.

Is that the same thing? Does my creating a user account with admin
privileges and password make the password for the super-admin the same, or
will the vista admin password still remain blank?

I'm wondering if this is the case, if a hacker tried to break into my system
to grab files, if I never set the administrator/super-admin password, does
that mean there is none, and they just walk right in,

or does it default to the password I have on my user account with admin
privileges?

Thank you again for your help!
 

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I have heard of the "administrator password" for a super-administrator.

But I have never "set" the "administrator password" or "super admin password".

I do, however, have a user account with admin privileges that I set a
password to.

Is that the same thing? Does my creating a user account with admin
privileges and password make the password for the super-admin the same, or
will the vista admin password still remain blank?

I'm wondering if this is the case, if a hacker tried to break into my system
to grab files, if I never set the administrator/super-admin password, does
that mean there is none, and they just walk right in,

or does it default to the password I have on my user account with admin
privileges?

Thank you again for your help!
Hello,

It is not the same thing. Unless you specifically set the root Administrator password (which you said you have not) then there is no password set. Therefore, a local hacker could just boot into Safe Mode and access your files.

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I have heard of the "administrator password" for a super-administrator.

But I have never "set" the "administrator password" or "super admin password".

I do, however, have a user account with admin privileges that I set a
password to.

Is that the same thing? Does my creating a user account with admin
privileges and password make the password for the super-admin the same, or
will the vista admin password still remain blank?

I'm wondering if this is the case, if a hacker tried to break into my system
to grab files, if I never set the administrator/super-admin password, does
that mean there is none, and they just walk right in,

or does it default to the password I have on my user account with admin
privileges?

Thank you again for your help!
Hello,

It is not the same thing. Unless you specifically set the root Administrator password (which you said you have not) then there is no password set. Therefore, a local hacker could just boot into Safe Mode and access your files.

Richard
No, safe mode will boot to the User account, not the Super-administrator.
 

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niemiro

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No, safe mode will boot to the User account, not the Super-administrator.
Oh, I had no idea. :o So for several years I have been wandering around with that misconception in my head! Also, why is it that if you lock yourself out of your files, you can usually recovery them in Safe Mode? Is it simply because it is Safe Mode and the security is relaxed? Thanks!
 

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niemiro

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If it *CAN*, then when does it? I am completely confused now!
 

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Paul Adare

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:49:03 -0700, john ha wrote:

> I have heard of the "administrator password" for a super-administrator.
>
> But I have never "set" the "administrator password" or "super admin password".
Wow, you're getting answers that are all over the map. Let me try to
clarify here.

1. There is no such thing as a "super-administrator. There is an account
named Administrator and you can add additional accounts that are members of
the Administrators group.
2. The difference between the account named Administrator and an account
that is a member of the Administrators group, is that the account named
Administrator, if used, will always have an administrative level access
token and will not be required to elevate by UAC when attempting to perform
a privileged operation.
3. Safe mode does not automatically "boot" into any particular account, be
it the Administrator account, an account that is a member of the
Administrators group, or a standard user account. Assuming you have a
password set on the account you need to logon after you've booted to Safe
mode.
4. In Vista and Windows 7, the account named Administrator is disabled by
default, so although you don't set a password on the account named
Administrator during setup, the account simply can't be used on a default
system regardless of what mode you're booting into.
5. From a security perspective there's really no reason to set a password
on the account named Administrator because of the previous point. In order
to be able to use the Administrator account, a hacker would first have to
crack the password of an existing account on your computer that is a member
of the Administrators group. If they were able to do so, they'd already
have administrative access to your computer and would have no need to use
the account named Administrator.
6. Finally, in order to take advantage of Safe mode in the first place, an
attacker would need to have physical possession of your computer, in which
case, the computer is no longer yours, and it belongs to the hacker any
way.


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niemiro

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Thank you! What a perfect description! Now we all know what Safe Mode is! Thanks again,

Richard
 

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"niemiro" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> If it *CAN*, then when does it? I am completely confused now!
Vista (and I assume Windows 7) is designed to activate the Administrator
account in safe mode if the last administrator level account is demoted
or removed. This was done so that an accidental demotion of the only
admin account still gives the user a way back in.

If you want security for your data even when the "attacker" has physical
access to your machine, you need to encrypt and manage the key properly.
Vista has support for TPM, which can safeguard your encryption key in
hardware so that if the attacker uses an alternate boot the key is not
released.
 

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niemiro

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Now I fully understand. Thanks everyone!
 

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Amitjoshi

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There is a default administrator account which is created defaultly when you installed your windows.
I think it is the supper administrator you called.
but it isn't actived unless you do.
here is how to active it:
Step 1: Start Windows PC
Step 2: When you can see the Windows login screen, press ctrl+alt+del keys Twice and it'll show Classic Login box
Step 3: Type Administrator as Username and leave the Password field blank
Step 4: Press the Enter Key and then you can be able to login the default windows administrator account which is it created by default when install windows.


Note: When you input the key combination Please don’t put the cursor on any account. And if you change the name or password before, you cannot login by this way.
 

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'john ha[_3_ Wrote:

> ;905929']I have heard of the "administrator password" for a
> super-administrator.
>
> But I have never "set" the "administrator password" or "super admin
> password".
>
> I do, however, have a user account with admin privileges that I set a
> password to.
>
> Is that the same thing? Does my creating a user account with admin
> privileges and password make the password for the super-admin the same,
> or
> will the vista admin password still remain blank?
>
> I'm wondering if this is the case, if a hacker tried to break into my
> system
> to grab files, if I never set the administrator/super-admin password,
> does
> that mean there is none, and they just walk right in,
>
> or does it default to the password I have on my user account with admin
>
> privileges?
>
> Thank you again for your help!


When you have installed Windows Vista first time, how long did it take
you to realize that you lost the administrator’s password? With me it
was about a week before I needed to make some changes in the file
system. It suddenly occurred to me that being logged in as
administrator might make the User Account Control dialog box go away,
but I didn’t know the administrator’s password! What the heck is the
Vista administrator’s default password?

Unlike the previous releases of Windows, Windows Vista does not
automatically create an Administrator account during installation. The
theory is that the typical Windows user does not need to run with
administrator privileges. Using a non-administrator account will
prevent a Windows user from accidentally deleting operating system
folder, files, and registry information, and prevent any Malware
infecting the computer from doing the same. However, if you really need
to run as an Administrator, you can easily activate the built-in
Administrator account yourself.

Here are the basic steps to activate Vista’s Administrator account and
assign it a password:

Logon to Vista using a standard user account
From the Start menu, navigate to the Command Prompt menu item in the
Accessories menu
Right-click on the Command Prompt menu item and select Run as
Administrator
Click the Continue button on the User Account Control dialog box
At the command prompt, enter net user administrator password, and hit
Enter
At the command prompt, enter net user administrator activate:yes, and
hit Enter
At the command prompt, enter exit and hit Enter to close the command
window
Log off and logon as Administrator using the password you selected
This procedure activates a user account named Administrator and assigns
it Full Control security privileges. The user name “Administrator” is
reserved, so you cannot create a user account with this name even if
you haven’t activated the built-in Administrator account. Depending on
the local password policy of the computer, you might be required to
enter a password of a minimum length or complexity, and not be allowed
to use a blank password.

I Forgot my Vista Administrator Password!
The User Accounts applet in Control Panel features the Create a
password reset disk wizard. Using this wizard, a floppy disk or USB
flash drive can be created that allows the password of a specific user
account on a specific Windows Vista computer to be reset by the user.
Possession of the reset disk is considered to be authorization to reset
the account’s password. The reset disk can also be reused to reset the
account’s password multiple times. However, you need to know the
password of the account you want to create the reset disk for, and you
must create the reset disk before you forget the account’s password.

To use the Vista password reset disk:

Insert the floppy or USB reset disk in the computer
Click the Reset password… item on the Vista logon screen to start the
Password Reset Wizard
Click the Next button
Enter a new password
Reenter the new password
If prompted, enter a password hint
Click the Next and Finished buttons
Enter your new password to logon to the user account




--
doctormrli

Guide to Reset Windows Password:
http://www.windowspasswordsrecovery.com/getting_started/index.htm
 

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