license issue with mp3 stuff

[richard]

windows vista home premium/ windows media player 11

Today I can no longer play certain mp3's I have. I am told I need a
license and to get it, I am sent to a website that does nothing.
http://wmasf.musicnet.com/


No information on the website is offered to obtain the license other
than to go to certain other websites, and pay for the license.

Up until today, I could play the mp3's with no problems.
Perhaps due in part in using "Rhapsody" for the first time.

My problem is, how and where exactly do I obtain this "license" which
should be free, or at least at bare minimal cost for ALL of my mp3's?
Not just a select few.

It's my damn property, microsoft ain't gonna tell me how and when i
can use it.

 

[zachd [MSFT]]

How could those be MP3 files? Either they're not MP3s or your decoder is
broken. This isn't how MP3s work.

--
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"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> windows vista home premium/ windows media player 11
>
> Today I can no longer play certain mp3's I have. I am told I need a
> license and to get it, I am sent to a website that does nothing.
> http://wmasf.musicnet.com/
>
>
> No information on the website is offered to obtain the license other
> than to go to certain other websites, and pay for the license.
>
> Up until today, I could play the mp3's with no problems.
> Perhaps due in part in using "Rhapsody" for the first time.
>
> My problem is, how and where exactly do I obtain this "license" which
> should be free, or at least at bare minimal cost for ALL of my mp3's?
> Not just a select few.
>
> It's my damn property, microsoft ain't gonna tell me how and when i
> can use it.
>

 

[richard]

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:43:17 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>How could those be MP3 files? Either they're not MP3s or your decoder is
>broken. This isn't how MP3s work.
>

Ok. Kind of an error on my part. They are "WMA" files. Even so wmp11
directs you to a website which does nothing. Giving you absolutely no
information on obtaining a license.

 

[Bill Condie]

Re: license issue with WMA [was MP3] stuff

Sounds like they were purchased online by track, and they're telling you to
prove you bought 'em legally.

Are you using them on a different computer?

Just went through this with stuff I bought from MusicMatch and had forgotten
about till I decided to burn a new printable CD this week.

MM is now owned by Yahoo and it took forever . . . .


"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:43:17 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>

>>
>>How could those be MP3 files? Either they're not MP3s or your decoder is
>>broken. This isn't how MP3s work.
>>

>
> Ok. Kind of an error on my part. They are "WMA" files. Even so wmp11
> directs you to a website which does nothing. Giving you absolutely no
> information on obtaining a license.
>

 

[zachd [MSFT]]

That's the license reissuance URL that WMP was given for that content. If
that URL doesn't work, contact the vendor directly (their web site or
whatnot) and ask for license reissuance. Only the vendor can make those
files work.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:43:17 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>

>>
>>How could those be MP3 files? Either they're not MP3s or your decoder is
>>broken. This isn't how MP3s work.
>>

>
> Ok. Kind of an error on my part. They are "WMA" files. Even so wmp11
> directs you to a website which does nothing. Giving you absolutely no
> information on obtaining a license.
>

 

[richard]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:19:22 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I have. They act like they have no idea what's going on.
I know you may not be a lawyer, but what gives these "vendors" the
legal right to attach a "license" to copyrighted material they do not
own the copyright to?
As these are "WMA" files, which is a microsoft product, then the
license should actually come from microsoft, which should be nothing
more than a formality. Microsoft does not have the legal authority to
protect a copyright that is not theirs.

Last night, I tried out several converters. Only problem is, most of
them balked and said because of the license issue, they could not
convert. Again, what gives microsoft the right to deny use of
copyrighted material they did not copyright?

>
>That's the license reissuance URL that WMP was given for that content. If
>that URL doesn't work, contact the vendor directly (their web site or
>whatnot) and ask for license reissuance. Only the vendor can make those
>files work.
>
>--
>Speaking for myself only.
>See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

 

[richard]

Re: license issue with WMA [was MP3] stuff

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:55:10 -0500, "Bill Condie"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sounds like they were purchased online by track, and they're telling you to
>prove you bought 'em legally.
>
>Are you using them on a different computer?

Yes and this one has vista premium. If I have to, I may put XP on it
just to avoid the license problem.

I got these songs from usenet so it's possible the poster got them
from a pay source.

>
>Just went through this with stuff I bought from MusicMatch and had forgotten
>about till I decided to burn a new printable CD this week.
>
>MM is now owned by Yahoo and it took forever . . . .
>

 

[Bill Condie]

Re: license issue with WMA [was MP3] stuff

Don't think that will help. The number of uses/devices is limited.

"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:55:10 -0500, "Bill Condie"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>

>>Sounds like they were purchased online by track, and they're telling you
>>to
>>prove you bought 'em legally.
>>
>>Are you using them on a different computer?

>
> Yes and this one has vista premium. If I have to, I may put XP on it
> just to avoid the license problem.
>
> I got these songs from usenet so it's possible the poster got them
> from a pay source.
>

>>
>>Just went through this with stuff I bought from MusicMatch and had
>>forgotten
>>about till I decided to burn a new printable CD this week.
>>
>>MM is now owned by Yahoo and it took forever . . . .
>>

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> richard
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:19:22 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I have. They act like they have no idea what's going on.
>I know you may not be a lawyer, but what gives these "vendors" the
>legal right to attach a "license" to copyrighted material they do not
>own the copyright to?

The copyright owner reaches a licensing agreement with the vendor.

 

[richard]

Re: license issue with WMA [was MP3] stuff

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:41:07 -0500, "Bill Condie"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Which violates the copyright laws.
When you purchase an item in a store, they are, by law, granting you
unlimited use of that item. They can not do so otherwise. They do not
own the copyright.

So you buy a car and you can use it only for 10 times?
I don't think so.

>Don't think that will help. The number of uses/devices is limited.
>
>"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]

>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:55:10 -0500, "Bill Condie"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>

>>>Sounds like they were purchased online by track, and they're telling you
>>>to
>>>prove you bought 'em legally.
>>>
>>>Are you using them on a different computer?

>>
>> Yes and this one has vista premium. If I have to, I may put XP on it
>> just to avoid the license problem.
>>
>> I got these songs from usenet so it's possible the poster got them
>> from a pay source.
>>

>>>
>>>Just went through this with stuff I bought from MusicMatch and had
>>>forgotten
>>>about till I decided to burn a new printable CD this week.
>>>
>>>MM is now owned by Yahoo and it took forever . . . .
>>>

 

[richard]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:22:39 -0700, DevilsPGD
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In message <[email protected]> richard
><[email protected]> wrote:
>

>>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:19:22 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>I have. They act like they have no idea what's going on.
>>I know you may not be a lawyer, but what gives these "vendors" the
>>legal right to attach a "license" to copyrighted material they do not
>>own the copyright to?

>
>The copyright owner reaches a licensing agreement with the vendor.

Uh no. The RIAA is not in charge of copyright laws as they think they
are. When you buy a DVD, are you limited to 10 uses? The big
difference here is that the RIAA is trying their damndest to
manipulate how the consumer MUST enjoy music. Microsoft is in cahoots
with them and working to ensure that YOU can not do anything without
their permission. So you, the consumer,can tell Bill Gates to go shove
it and not use his products.

So I play my song 10 times. In order to play more, I have to buy
another copy? You see how the RIAA is handling this? It's all about
making more money for them. I legally purchased the song and now I'm
forced to buy it again? Up yours RIAA.

 

[zachd [MSFT]]

I thought we were engaging in a technical discussion. By throwing around
"legal authority" and other unfriendly terms, I need to bow out of this
discussion (or any discussion where "legal" opinions threaten to dominate
the discussion). I hope that your research in this field goes well.

Respectfully,
-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:19:22 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have. They act like they have no idea what's going on.
> I know you may not be a lawyer, but what gives these "vendors" the
> legal right to attach a "license" to copyrighted material they do not
> own the copyright to?
> As these are "WMA" files, which is a microsoft product, then the
> license should actually come from microsoft, which should be nothing
> more than a formality. Microsoft does not have the legal authority to
> protect a copyright that is not theirs.
>
> Last night, I tried out several converters. Only problem is, most of
> them balked and said because of the license issue, they could not
> convert. Again, what gives microsoft the right to deny use of
> copyrighted material they did not copyright?
>
>
>

>>
>>That's the license reissuance URL that WMP was given for that content. If
>>that URL doesn't work, contact the vendor directly (their web site or
>>whatnot) and ask for license reissuance. Only the vendor can make those
>>files work.
>>
>>--
>>Speaking for myself only.
>>See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>rights.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> richard
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:22:39 -0700, DevilsPGD
><[email protected]> wrote:
>

>>In message <[email protected]> richard
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>

>>>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:19:22 -0800, "zachd [MSFT]"
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>I have. They act like they have no idea what's going on.
>>>I know you may not be a lawyer, but what gives these "vendors" the
>>>legal right to attach a "license" to copyrighted material they do not
>>>own the copyright to?

>>
>>The copyright owner reaches a licensing agreement with the vendor.

>
>Uh no. The RIAA is not in charge of copyright laws as they think they
>are. When you buy a DVD, are you limited to 10 uses? The big
>difference here is that the RIAA is trying their damndest to
>manipulate how the consumer MUST enjoy music. Microsoft is in cahoots
>with them and working to ensure that YOU can not do anything without
>their permission. So you, the consumer,can tell Bill Gates to go shove
>it and not use his products.
>
>So I play my song 10 times. In order to play more, I have to buy
>another copy? You see how the RIAA is handling this? It's all about
>making more money for them. I legally purchased the song and now I'm
>forced to buy it again? Up yours RIAA.

No one said you need to buy another copy, just that you need to request
license reissuance.

Or, better yet, don't buy DRM'd music if it's not to your taste. I, for
one, refuse DRM'd material entirely -- Sometimes that means I pay more,
sometimes that means I do without, but either way, I consider myself
better off then wasting money on DRM encrusted material.

 

[Bill Condie]

Re: license issue with WMA [was MP3] stuff

Not PLAY it only 10 times; don't put it on 10 different computers.

They don't want you buying it then emailing it to me


"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:hvm1p3h6v1nrhvv2lpnlu75olf0u2l22cp[email protected]

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:41:07 -0500, "Bill Condie"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Which violates the copyright laws.
> When you purchase an item in a store, they are, by law, granting you
> unlimited use of that item. They can not do so otherwise. They do not
> own the copyright.
>
> So you buy a car and you can use it only for 10 times?
> I don't think so.
>
>

>>Don't think that will help. The number of uses/devices is limited.
>>
>>"richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]

>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:55:10 -0500, "Bill Condie"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sounds like they were purchased online by track, and they're telling
>>>>you
>>>>to
>>>>prove you bought 'em legally.
>>>>
>>>>Are you using them on a different computer?
>>>
>>> Yes and this one has vista premium. If I have to, I may put XP on it
>>> just to avoid the license problem.
>>>
>>> I got these songs from usenet so it's possible the poster got them
>>> from a pay source.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Just went through this with stuff I bought from MusicMatch and had
>>>>forgotten
>>>>about till I decided to burn a new printable CD this week.
>>>>
>>>>MM is now owned by Yahoo and it took forever . . . .
>>>>

 

[Kentz Dominique]

Windows vista home premium/ windows media player 11. Today I can no longer
play certain mp3's I have.I am told I need a license and sent to a website
that does noting.Http;//wmasf.musicnet.com/ No
information on the website is offered to obtain the license other than
websites, and pay for the license. Up until today,I could play the mp3's
with no problems. Perhaps due in part in using "Rhapsody" for the first
time. My problem is,
how and where exatly do I obtain this "license" which should be free,or at
least at bare minimal cost for All of my mp3's? Not
just a select few. It's my damn property,
microsoft ain't gonna tell me how and when I can use it.

url:http://www.ureader.com/msg/16921280.aspx

 

[zachd [MSFT]]

If you're getting a message like that, they aren't MP3 files.

Where did these files come from originally... ?

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

On 5/18/2010 11:46 PM, Kentz Dominique wrote:

> Windows vista home premium/ windows media player 11. Today I can no longer
> play certain mp3's I have.I am told I need a license and sent to a website
> that does noting.Http;//wmasf.musicnet.com/ No
> information on the website is offered to obtain the license other than
> websites, and pay for the license. Up until today,I could play the mp3's
> with no problems. Perhaps due in part in using "Rhapsody" for the first
> time. My problem is,
> how and where exatly do I obtain this "license" which should be free,or at
> least at bare minimal cost for All of my mp3's? Not
> just a select few. It's my damn property,
> microsoft ain't gonna tell me how and when I can use it.
>
> url:http://www.ureader.com/msg/16921280.aspx