Locked Out Of A Dell Laptop

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Sandgroper

A friend of mine has been locked out of his Dell laptop and cannot find the
password for the single account that it has.

The laptop has Vista Ultimate installed on it and I am unable to activate
the hidden administrator's account to get into Vista.

Other investigations using other software shows only 2 accounts ,
Administrator and Guest but not the actual user single account that shows
up onto the login screen.
( I have managed to blank out the Administrator and Guest passwords )

I have a standard Vista Recovery Disk , but I am unable to either repair or
re-install Vista from the Dell hidden partition , and the only alternative
is to install a unused retail version of Vista Home Premium that my friend
has been given awhile ago.

I have 2 questions

1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a different
place as compared to other versions of Vista ?

2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop ,
will I have problems with the propriety hardware that is on the Dell laptop
and would I need to find all the Dell drivers for the laptop ?




Thanks.


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"Sandgroper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A friend of mine has been locked out of his Dell laptop and cannot find the password for the
> single account that it has.
>
> The laptop has Vista Ultimate installed on it and I am unable to activate the hidden
> administrator's account to get into Vista.
>
> Other investigations using other software shows only 2 accounts , Administrator and Guest but not
> the actual user single account that shows up onto the login screen.
> ( I have managed to blank out the Administrator and Guest passwords )
>
> I have a standard Vista Recovery Disk , but I am unable to either repair or re-install Vista from
> the Dell hidden partition , and the only alternative is to install a unused retail version of
> Vista Home Premium that my friend has been given awhile ago.
>
> I have 2 questions
>
> 1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a different place as compared to other
> versions of Vista ?
>
> 2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop , will I have problems with
> the propriety hardware that is on the Dell laptop and would I need to find all the Dell drivers
> for the laptop ?
>
1) Not as far as I know.
2) The hardware shouldn't be a problem, but you may have to find drivers.

Why can't you activate the built-in Administrators account ?
If you boot the repair disk and select the command prompt try:
net user Administrator /active:yes
(I'm guessing you used the NT Password Editor from Pogostick to blank out any passwords.)
 

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ray

On Thu, 27 May 2010 19:04:04 +0800, Sandgroper wrote:

> A friend of mine has been locked out of his Dell laptop and cannot find
> the password for the single account that it has.
>
> The laptop has Vista Ultimate installed on it and I am unable to
> activate the hidden administrator's account to get into Vista.
>
> Other investigations using other software shows only 2 accounts ,
> Administrator and Guest but not the actual user single account that
> shows up onto the login screen.
> ( I have managed to blank out the Administrator and Guest passwords )
>
> I have a standard Vista Recovery Disk , but I am unable to either repair
> or re-install Vista from the Dell hidden partition , and the only
> alternative is to install a unused retail version of Vista Home Premium
> that my friend has been given awhile ago.
>
> I have 2 questions
>
> 1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a different
> place as compared to other versions of Vista ?
>
> 2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop ,
> will I have problems with the propriety hardware that is on the Dell
> laptop and would I need to find all the Dell drivers for the laptop ?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks.
FWIW - there used to be a utility on the Knoppix Live CD to reset an ms
admin password - that should allow you to gain access.
 

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Sandgroper

"Dave-UK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> I have 2 questions
>>
>> 1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a different
>> place as compared to other versions of Vista ?
>>
>> 2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop ,
>> will I have problems with the propriety hardware that is on the Dell
>> laptop and would I need to find all the Dell drivers for the laptop ?
>>
>
> 1) Not as far as I know.
> 2) The hardware shouldn't be a problem, but you may have to find drivers.
>
> Why can't you activate the built-in Administrators account ?
> If you boot the repair disk and select the command prompt try:
> net user Administrator /active:yes
> (I'm guessing you used the NT Password Editor from Pogostick to blank out
> any passwords.)
I used a standard Vista Recovery Disk that I downloaded and burnt to disk ,
I can boot into the disk , run the fix problems utility , which says nothing
is wrong and if I use the command prompt and use the net user command it
displays only Administrator and Guest and not the user on the login screen.
when I run the net user /active:yes command , it works , but when I boot
into Vista , the administrator account doesn't show up on the login screen ,
just the 1 single user that has been there all along.

After that , I used Trinity to check the password files and the only users
that showed up were Administrator and Guest and no other username.
I went and reset/blanked both the Administrator and Guest passwords .

So I am back to where I have started from , a login screen with just one
user that I can't find anywhere and no Administrator listed on the screen.
I would like to keep the OS , otherwise I don't want to have to hunt around
to get any obscure Dell proprietary drivers that may not even work.

Have you got any other suggestions ?

Thanks

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Sandgroper

"ray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 27 May 2010 19:04:04 +0800, Sandgroper wrote:
>

>> A friend of mine has been locked out of his Dell laptop and cannot find
>> the password for the single account that it has.
>>
>> The laptop has Vista Ultimate installed on it and I am unable to
>> activate the hidden administrator's account to get into Vista.
>>
>> Other investigations using other software shows only 2 accounts ,
>> Administrator and Guest but not the actual user single account that
>> shows up onto the login screen.
>> ( I have managed to blank out the Administrator and Guest passwords )
>>
>> I have a standard Vista Recovery Disk , but I am unable to either repair
>> or re-install Vista from the Dell hidden partition , and the only
>> alternative is to install a unused retail version of Vista Home Premium
>> that my friend has been given awhile ago.
>>
>> I have 2 questions
>>
>> 1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a different
>> place as compared to other versions of Vista ?
>>
>> 2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop ,
>> will I have problems with the propriety hardware that is on the Dell
>> laptop and would I need to find all the Dell drivers for the laptop ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> FWIW - there used to be a utility on the Knoppix Live CD to reset an ms
> admin password - that should allow you to gain access.
I have used Ophcrack and Trinity and I still can't get access to either the
Administrator account or list the 1 single user that is listed on the login
screen.


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Dave-UK

"Sandgroper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave-UK" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]

>>>
>>> I have 2 questions
>>>
>>> 1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a different place as compared to
>>> other versions of Vista ?
>>>
>>> 2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop , will I have problems
>>> with the propriety hardware that is on the Dell laptop and would I need to find all the Dell
>>> drivers for the laptop ?
>>>
>>
>> 1) Not as far as I know.
>> 2) The hardware shouldn't be a problem, but you may have to find drivers.
>>
>> Why can't you activate the built-in Administrators account ?
>> If you boot the repair disk and select the command prompt try:
>> net user Administrator /active:yes
>> (I'm guessing you used the NT Password Editor from Pogostick to blank out any passwords.)
>
> I used a standard Vista Recovery Disk that I downloaded and burnt to disk , I can boot into the
> disk , run the fix problems utility , which says nothing is wrong and if I use the command prompt
> and use the net user command it displays only Administrator and Guest and not the user on the
> login screen.
> when I run the net user /active:yes command , it works , but when I boot into Vista , the
> administrator account doesn't show up on the login screen , just the 1 single user that has been
> there all along.
>
> After that , I used Trinity to check the password files and the only users that showed up were
> Administrator and Guest and no other username.
> I went and reset/blanked both the Administrator and Guest passwords .
>
> So I am back to where I have started from , a login screen with just one user that I can't find
> anywhere and no Administrator listed on the screen.
> I would like to keep the OS , otherwise I don't want to have to hunt around to get any obscure
> Dell proprietary drivers that may not even work.
>
> Have you got any other suggestions ?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
I haven't used either Trinity or Ophcrack so I don't know
anything about them. All I can suggest is you try my rescue
disk, it has the Linux NT Password Editor in a GUI format and
can activate the Administrator account.
If any account fails to show then it's possibly corrupted.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5B4FWYEL
 

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ray

On Fri, 28 May 2010 02:10:19 +0800, Sandgroper wrote:

> "ray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 19:04:04 +0800, Sandgroper wrote:
>>

>>> A friend of mine has been locked out of his Dell laptop and cannot
>>> find the password for the single account that it has.
>>>
>>> The laptop has Vista Ultimate installed on it and I am unable to
>>> activate the hidden administrator's account to get into Vista.
>>>
>>> Other investigations using other software shows only 2 accounts ,
>>> Administrator and Guest but not the actual user single account that
>>> shows up onto the login screen.
>>> ( I have managed to blank out the Administrator and Guest passwords )
>>>
>>> I have a standard Vista Recovery Disk , but I am unable to either
>>> repair or re-install Vista from the Dell hidden partition , and the
>>> only alternative is to install a unused retail version of Vista Home
>>> Premium that my friend has been given awhile ago.
>>>
>>> I have 2 questions
>>>
>>> 1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a
>>> different place as compared to other versions of Vista ?
>>>
>>> 2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop
>>> , will I have problems with the propriety hardware that is on the Dell
>>> laptop and would I need to find all the Dell drivers for the laptop ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> FWIW - there used to be a utility on the Knoppix Live CD to reset an ms
>> admin password - that should allow you to gain access.
>
> I have used Ophcrack and Trinity and I still can't get access to either
> the Administrator account or list the 1 single user that is listed on
> the login screen.
Trying to crack a password is not the same as resetting it.
 

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Don_T_Spamme

Ultimate has more security than other versons....did the laptop have
bitlocker enabled?

To use the hidden partition, you need a Dell recovery cd as well. I might be
wrong, but
I believe the hidden partition only has drivers and some files ( software)
dependent on the build, it is not
a complete and working OS image.

If you use a retail version to install, you will have to install propietary
drivers for the Dell hardware
to work, not impossible, just a pain in the neck.




"Sandgroper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

>A friend of mine has been locked out of his Dell laptop and cannot find the
>password for the single account that it has.
>
> The laptop has Vista Ultimate installed on it and I am unable to activate
> the hidden administrator's account to get into Vista.
>
> Other investigations using other software shows only 2 accounts ,
> Administrator and Guest but not the actual user single account that shows
> up onto the login screen.
> ( I have managed to blank out the Administrator and Guest passwords )
>
> I have a standard Vista Recovery Disk , but I am unable to either repair
> or re-install Vista from the Dell hidden partition , and the only
> alternative is to install a unused retail version of Vista Home Premium
> that my friend has been given awhile ago.
>
> I have 2 questions
>
> 1) Is the Vista Ultimate user account passwords located in a different
> place as compared to other versions of Vista ?
>
> 2) if I install this retail version of Home Premium on the Dell laptop ,
> will I have problems with the propriety hardware that is on the Dell
> laptop and would I need to find all the Dell drivers for the laptop ?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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>
> Sandgroper
> ----------------------------------------------
> Save planet Earth !
> It is the only place that has Pizza and Beer !
>
>
>
>
 

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