.mov videos don't work in Vista, can't convert

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Silverwire

My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n Vista Hm
Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of junk
for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.

I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs, updates,
other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio, poor
quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.

Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime to
get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music, videos
and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was scammed by
ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.

Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible to
get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I just
want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money for!

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Bob

Do you also complain that you can't use a hammer to cook eggs?!

Download and install QuickTime
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"Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n Vista
> Hm
> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
> junk
> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>
> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> updates,
> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
> poor
> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>
> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime to
> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music, videos
> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was scammed
> by
> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>
> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
> to
> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> just
> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
> for!
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
 

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Bob F.

"Silverwire" ,
Sometimes it's not obvious as to what's going on here. We are dealing with
some inter-company turf rights involving ipr and royalty agreement(s). The
simplest solution is for the customer to to add the free additions as they
are needed. For the comanpanies to get together and integrate them for
you...we that's just asking too much. That's American business for you. ;-)

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"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Do you also complain that you can't use a hammer to cook eggs?!
>
> Download and install QuickTime
> -------
> *Report back, please*
> [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to
> so that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
>
> [How to ask a question]
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
> "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

>> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
>> Vista Hm
>> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
>> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
>> junk
>> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>>
>> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
>> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
>> updates,
>> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
>> poor
>> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>>
>> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime
>> to
>> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
>> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
>> videos
>> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
>> scammed by
>> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>>
>> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
>> to
>> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
>> just
>> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
>> for!
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
>
 

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Dave

QuickTime pro

Nero 8

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/free-dvd-video-software.htm


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Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


"Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n Vista
> Hm
> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
> junk
> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>
> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> updates,
> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
> poor
> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>
> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime to
> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music, videos
> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was scammed
> by
> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>
> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
> to
> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> just
> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
> for!
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
 

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PapaJohn

My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in Vista
yet.

3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know converts
MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.

Good idea, something to check.
--
website references are to www.papajohn.org

PapaJohn (MVP)


"Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n Vista
> Hm
> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
> junk
> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>
> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> updates,
> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
> poor
> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>
> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime to
> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music, videos
> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was scammed
> by
> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>
> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
> to
> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> just
> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
> for!
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
 

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PapaJohn

I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested the
new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to WMV.

It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good, and
is in sync.
--
website references are to www.papajohn.org

PapaJohn (MVP)


"PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:O%[email protected]

> My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
> about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
> Vista yet.
>
> 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know converts
> MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
> converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
>
> Good idea, something to check.
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
>
>
> "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

>> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
>> Vista Hm
>> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
>> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
>> junk
>> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>>
>> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
>> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
>> updates,
>> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
>> poor
>> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>>
>> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime
>> to
>> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
>> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
>> videos
>> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
>> scammed by
>> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>>
>> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
>> to
>> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
>> just
>> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
>> for!
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
>
>
 

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Silverwire

"PapaJohn" wrote:

> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested the
> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to WMV.
>
> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good, and
> is in sync.
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
>
>
> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:O%[email protected]

> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
> > Vista yet.
> >
> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know converts
> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >
> > Good idea, something to check.
> > --
> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >
> > PapaJohn (MVP)
> >
> >
> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]

> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
> >> Vista Hm
> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
> >> junk
> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >>
> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> >> updates,
> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
> >> poor
> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >>
> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime
> >> to
> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
> >> videos
> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
> >> scammed by
> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >>
> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
> >> to
> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> >> just
> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
> >> for!
> >>
> >> ----------------
> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
> >> "I
> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> >> this
> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> then
> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >>
> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
> >
> >
>
>
>
 

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Silverwire

Thanks, PapaJohn. You are most helpful on any forum I found & only one
giving info specific to my problem tho its not yet solved cuz I dont have
iTunes or QuickTime & all forums say free quicktime doesn't work to convert
..mov on Vista. So do I need to buy QuicktimePro or whatever has iTunes
bundled & install SP1 before I can convert .mov? Or do U have any other
solution? So far, I find no other workable "free" or paid solutions on any
forum or ad, & I don't want to buy something that won't work.

I havent installed SP1 yet cuz I just read caution on Windows Update for
Vista users to wait til April for "automatic" update of SP1. Also Office
Depot computer rep told me yesterday MS plans release of SP2 in April or May
so I wonder if SP2 is "fix" of SP1 and reason for caution remark. Any idea on
this?

Sorry to ask so many questions but I am new to Vista, had Windows 2000 b4
Vista (no XP), and no movie or digital photo or ipod, etc. experience and
trying not to crash my system like I hear others do from trying random stuff.
Checkd out ur website - it's GREAT! Very well written, clear explanations for
lots of other problems. Other users should check it out.
Thanks again.
Silverwire
---------

"PapaJohn" wrote:

> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested the
> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to WMV.
>
> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good, and
> is in sync.
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
>
>
> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:O%[email protected]

> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
> > Vista yet.
> >
> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know converts
> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >
> > Good idea, something to check.
> > --
> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >
> > PapaJohn (MVP)
> >
> >
> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]

> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
> >> Vista Hm
> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
> >> junk
> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >>
> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> >> updates,
> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
> >> poor
> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >>
> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime
> >> to
> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
> >> videos
> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
> >> scammed by
> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >>
> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
> >> to
> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> >> just
> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
> >> for!
> >>
> >> ----------------
> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
> >> "I
> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> >> this
> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> then
> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >>
> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
> >
> >
>
>
>
 

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PapaJohn

I use iTunes on my XP, Vista and Vista SP1 systems... it's a free download
from

http://www.apple.com/mac/

the installation includes a QuickTime player... which provides the codec
needed by the Expression Encoder to handle MOV files.... just to recap
what's happening.

I'd wait on SP1 until you need it or it's automatically updated by
Microsoft. The only reason I have one system running it is because I'm a
beta tester. My production system doesn't have it.

Thanks for the good comments...
--
website references are to www.papajohn.org

PapaJohn (MVP)


"Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> Thanks, PapaJohn. You are most helpful on any forum I found & only one
> giving info specific to my problem tho its not yet solved cuz I dont have
> iTunes or QuickTime & all forums say free quicktime doesn't work to
> convert
> .mov on Vista. So do I need to buy QuicktimePro or whatever has iTunes
> bundled & install SP1 before I can convert .mov? Or do U have any other
> solution? So far, I find no other workable "free" or paid solutions on any
> forum or ad, & I don't want to buy something that won't work.
>
> I havent installed SP1 yet cuz I just read caution on Windows Update for
> Vista users to wait til April for "automatic" update of SP1. Also Office
> Depot computer rep told me yesterday MS plans release of SP2 in April or
> May
> so I wonder if SP2 is "fix" of SP1 and reason for caution remark. Any idea
> on
> this?
>
> Sorry to ask so many questions but I am new to Vista, had Windows 2000 b4
> Vista (no XP), and no movie or digital photo or ipod, etc. experience and
> trying not to crash my system like I hear others do from trying random
> stuff.
> Checkd out ur website - it's GREAT! Very well written, clear explanations
> for
> lots of other problems. Other users should check it out.
> Thanks again.
> Silverwire
> ---------
>
> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>

>> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested
>> the
>> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to
>> WMV.
>>
>> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
>> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
>> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good,
>> and
>> is in sync.
>> --
>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>
>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>
>>
>> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:O%[email protected]

>> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
>> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
>> > Vista yet.
>> >
>> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
>> > converts
>> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
>> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
>> >
>> > Good idea, something to check.
>> > --
>> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
>> >
>> > PapaJohn (MVP)
>> >
>> >
>> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]
>> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
>> >> Vista Hm
>> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
>> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces
>> >> of
>> >> junk
>> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>> >>
>> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have
>> >> same
>> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
>> >> updates,
>> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost
>> >> audio,
>> >> poor
>> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>> >>
>> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
>> >> Quicktime
>> >> to
>> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use
>> >> this
>> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
>> >> videos
>> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
>> >> scammed by
>> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>> >>
>> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
>> >> possible
>> >> to
>> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
>> >> just
>> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of
>> >> money
>> >> for!
>> >>
>> >> ----------------
>> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> >> the
>> >> "I
>> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> follow
>> >> this
>> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> >> then
>> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >>
>> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
 

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OK, great! Guess that's why free quicktime wasn't working for all those who
complained on forums cuz they hadn't loaded SP1 to Vista & other codecs
didn't work. I'll wait til SP1 is auto loaded so I have right codec then
download itunes & quicktime. Ur post should help others with same conversion
problem.
I will post again as soon as I try it to let U know if solved.
Thanks,
Silverwire
--------
"PapaJohn" wrote:

> I use iTunes on my XP, Vista and Vista SP1 systems... it's a free download
> from
>
> http://www.apple.com/mac/
>
> the installation includes a QuickTime player... which provides the codec
> needed by the Expression Encoder to handle MOV files.... just to recap
> what's happening.
>
> I'd wait on SP1 until you need it or it's automatically updated by
> Microsoft. The only reason I have one system running it is because I'm a
> beta tester. My production system doesn't have it.
>
> Thanks for the good comments...
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
>
>
> "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

> > Thanks, PapaJohn. You are most helpful on any forum I found & only one
> > giving info specific to my problem tho its not yet solved cuz I dont have
> > iTunes or QuickTime & all forums say free quicktime doesn't work to
> > convert
> > .mov on Vista. So do I need to buy QuicktimePro or whatever has iTunes
> > bundled & install SP1 before I can convert .mov? Or do U have any other
> > solution? So far, I find no other workable "free" or paid solutions on any
> > forum or ad, & I don't want to buy something that won't work.
> >
> > I havent installed SP1 yet cuz I just read caution on Windows Update for
> > Vista users to wait til April for "automatic" update of SP1. Also Office
> > Depot computer rep told me yesterday MS plans release of SP2 in April or
> > May
> > so I wonder if SP2 is "fix" of SP1 and reason for caution remark. Any idea
> > on
> > this?
> >
> > Sorry to ask so many questions but I am new to Vista, had Windows 2000 b4
> > Vista (no XP), and no movie or digital photo or ipod, etc. experience and
> > trying not to crash my system like I hear others do from trying random
> > stuff.
> > Checkd out ur website - it's GREAT! Very well written, clear explanations
> > for
> > lots of other problems. Other users should check it out.
> > Thanks again.
> > Silverwire
> > ---------
> >
> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >

> >> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested
> >> the
> >> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to
> >> WMV.
> >>
> >> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
> >> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
> >> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good,
> >> and
> >> is in sync.
> >> --
> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>
> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>
> >>
> >> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:O%[email protected]
> >> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
> >> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
> >> > Vista yet.
> >> >
> >> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
> >> > converts
> >> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
> >> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >> >
> >> > Good idea, something to check.
> >> > --
> >> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >> >
> >> > PapaJohn (MVP)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[email protected]
> >> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
> >> >> Vista Hm
> >> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> >> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces
> >> >> of
> >> >> junk
> >> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >> >>
> >> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have
> >> >> same
> >> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> >> >> updates,
> >> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost
> >> >> audio,
> >> >> poor
> >> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >> >>
> >> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
> >> >> Quicktime
> >> >> to
> >> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use
> >> >> this
> >> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
> >> >> videos
> >> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
> >> >> scammed by
> >> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
> >> >> possible
> >> >> to
> >> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> >> >> just
> >> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of
> >> >> money
> >> >> for!
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------------
> >> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
> >> >> the
> >> >> "I
> >> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
> >> >> follow
> >> >> this
> >> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> >> then
> >> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 

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PapaJohn--

According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a trial
version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy the
program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just looking for
something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows Movie
Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.

Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion, or is
that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of the trial
period?

Thanks!

LisaR

"PapaJohn" wrote:

> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested the
> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to WMV.
>
> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good, and
> is in sync.
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
>
>
> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:O%[email protected]

> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
> > Vista yet.
> >
> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know converts
> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >
> > Good idea, something to check.
> > --
> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >
> > PapaJohn (MVP)
> >
> >
> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]xxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]

> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
> >> Vista Hm
> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces of
> >> junk
> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >>
> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have same
> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> >> updates,
> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost audio,
> >> poor
> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >>
> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with Quicktime
> >> to
> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use this
> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
> >> videos
> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
> >> scammed by
> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >>
> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum possible
> >> to
> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> >> just
> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of money
> >> for!
> >>
> >> ----------------
> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
> >> "I
> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> >> this
> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> then
> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >>
> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
> >
> >
>
>
>
 

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PapaJohn

It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP laptop
and just conversted an MOV file to check it.

--
website references are to www.papajohn.org

PapaJohn (MVP)


"LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> PapaJohn--
>
> According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a trial
> version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy the
> program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just looking
> for
> something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows Movie
> Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
>
> Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion, or is
> that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of the
> trial
> period?
>
> Thanks!
>
> LisaR
>
> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>

>> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested
>> the
>> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to
>> WMV.
>>
>> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
>> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
>> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good,
>> and
>> is in sync.
>> --
>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>
>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>
>>
>> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:O%[email protected]

>> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
>> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
>> > Vista yet.
>> >
>> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
>> > converts
>> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
>> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
>> >
>> > Good idea, something to check.
>> > --
>> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
>> >
>> > PapaJohn (MVP)
>> >
>> >
>> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]
>> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
>> >> Vista Hm
>> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
>> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces
>> >> of
>> >> junk
>> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>> >>
>> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have
>> >> same
>> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
>> >> updates,
>> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost
>> >> audio,
>> >> poor
>> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>> >>
>> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
>> >> Quicktime
>> >> to
>> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use
>> >> this
>> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
>> >> videos
>> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
>> >> scammed by
>> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>> >>
>> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
>> >> possible
>> >> to
>> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
>> >> just
>> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of
>> >> money
>> >> for!
>> >>
>> >> ----------------
>> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> >> the
>> >> "I
>> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> follow
>> >> this
>> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> >> then
>> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >>
>> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
 

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Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone uses those
for video) to .WMV?

"PapaJohn" wrote:

> It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP laptop
> and just conversted an MOV file to check it.
>
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
>
>
> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

> > PapaJohn--
> >
> > According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a trial
> > version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy the
> > program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just looking
> > for
> > something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows Movie
> > Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
> >
> > Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion, or is
> > that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of the
> > trial
> > period?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > LisaR
> >
> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >

> >> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested
> >> the
> >> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to
> >> WMV.
> >>
> >> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so I
> >> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough. The
> >> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds good,
> >> and
> >> is in sync.
> >> --
> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>
> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>
> >>
> >> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:O%[email protected]
> >> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a section
> >> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked in
> >> > Vista yet.
> >> >
> >> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
> >> > converts
> >> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
> >> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >> >
> >> > Good idea, something to check.
> >> > --
> >> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >> >
> >> > PapaJohn (MVP)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[email protected]
> >> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My HPm7750n
> >> >> Vista Hm
> >> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6, Muvee
> >> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless pieces
> >> >> of
> >> >> junk
> >> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >> >>
> >> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have
> >> >> same
> >> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have codecs,
> >> >> updates,
> >> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost
> >> >> audio,
> >> >> poor
> >> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >> >>
> >> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
> >> >> Quicktime
> >> >> to
> >> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use
> >> >> this
> >> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
> >> >> videos
> >> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
> >> >> scammed by
> >> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
> >> >> possible
> >> >> to
> >> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this? I
> >> >> just
> >> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of
> >> >> money
> >> >> for!
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------------
> >> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
> >> >> the
> >> >> "I
> >> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
> >> >> follow
> >> >> this
> >> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> >> then
> >> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 

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PapaJohn

the help file says it does.... but I'd like to test it. I'd like a 3g2 test
file, so email one and I'll let you know.

papajohn.....at..... chartermi...... dot..... net

--
website references are to www.papajohn.org

PapaJohn (MVP)


"LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone uses
> those
> for video) to .WMV?
>
> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>

>> It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP laptop
>> and just conversted an MOV file to check it.
>>
>> --
>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>
>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>
>>
>> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]

>> > PapaJohn--
>> >
>> > According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a trial
>> > version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy the
>> > program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just
>> > looking
>> > for
>> > something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows
>> > Movie
>> > Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
>> >
>> > Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion, or
>> > is
>> > that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of the
>> > trial
>> > period?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > LisaR
>> >
>> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested
>> >> the
>> >> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to
>> >> WMV.
>> >>
>> >> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so
>> >> I
>> >> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough.
>> >> The
>> >> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds
>> >> good,
>> >> and
>> >> is in sync.
>> >> --
>> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>> >>
>> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> news:O%[email protected]
>> >> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a
>> >> > section
>> >> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked
>> >> > in
>> >> > Vista yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
>> >> > converts
>> >> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
>> >> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Good idea, something to check.
>> >> > --
>> >> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
>> >> >
>> >> > PapaJohn (MVP)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> > news:[email protected]
>> >> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My
>> >> >> HPm7750n
>> >> >> Vista Hm
>> >> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6,
>> >> >> Muvee
>> >> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless
>> >> >> pieces
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> junk
>> >> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have
>> >> >> same
>> >> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have
>> >> >> codecs,
>> >> >> updates,
>> >> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost
>> >> >> audio,
>> >> >> poor
>> >> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
>> >> >> Quicktime
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
>> >> >> videos
>> >> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
>> >> >> scammed by
>> >> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
>> >> >> possible
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this?
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> just
>> >> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of
>> >> >> money
>> >> >> for!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----------------
>> >> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> "I
>> >> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> >> follow
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
 

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Silverwire

Papa John:
You gave me good advice to "wait for automatic update of SP1 unless you
really need it", and want you to know I'm still waiting cuz I don't want to
download SP1 from Microsoft since now I know why it hasn't appeared on MY
automatic update. Mike Nash, Windows Product Management, has blog "Windows
Vista News" at link:
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/04/announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx ).
Nash says: "In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to
Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded
automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a
driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As
updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed
automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from
getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will
automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a good
experience."
I must have some of those drivers that don't update correctly and since I
don't need any "bad experiences", I think I'll wait for SP1 to appear in
automatic Update.
If you want to hear lots of bad experiences trying to download SP1, check
out the windowsvistablog.com site and read about angry Vista users upset with
Microsoft because of many SP1 issues: not identifying which drivers don't
work, not fixing driver problems before release, no "official" one-stop
website to address issues and problems directly. MS could have sent notices
via auto-update about cause of delays and problems instead of allowing users
to spend useless hours trying to install or fix crashed systems. Very bad PR
for MS and their SP1.
Meanwhile, what is Microsoft Expressions? Is it something I can use to
convert MOV files to WMV? Does it need SP1 loaded first and will I still need
Quicktime? (which downloads needed and in what order?)
Thanks again, Papa John, for good advice and clear directions.
Still waiting,
Silverwire



"PapaJohn" wrote:

> the help file says it does.... but I'd like to test it. I'd like a 3g2 test
> file, so email one and I'll let you know.
>
> papajohn.....at..... chartermi...... dot..... net
>
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
>
>
> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

> > Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone uses
> > those
> > for video) to .WMV?
> >
> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >

> >> It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP laptop
> >> and just conversted an MOV file to check it.
> >>
> >> --
> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>
> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>
> >>
> >> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]
> >> > PapaJohn--
> >> >
> >> > According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a trial
> >> > version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy the
> >> > program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just
> >> > looking
> >> > for
> >> > something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows
> >> > Movie
> >> > Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
> >> >
> >> > Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion, or
> >> > is
> >> > that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of the
> >> > trial
> >> > period?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > LisaR
> >> >
> >> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just tested
> >> >> the
> >> >> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion to
> >> >> WMV.
> >> >>
> >> >> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system, so
> >> >> I
> >> >> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was enough.
> >> >> The
> >> >> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds
> >> >> good,
> >> >> and
> >> >> is in sync.
> >> >> --
> >> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >> >>
> >> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> news:O%[email protected]
> >> >> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a
> >> >> > section
> >> >> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't checked
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > Vista yet.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
> >> >> > converts
> >> >> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't tried
> >> >> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Good idea, something to check.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >> >> >
> >> >> > PapaJohn (MVP)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:[email protected]
> >> >> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My
> >> >> >> HPm7750n
> >> >> >> Vista Hm
> >> >> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6,
> >> >> >> Muvee
> >> >> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless
> >> >> >> pieces
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> junk
> >> >> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users have
> >> >> >> same
> >> >> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have
> >> >> >> codecs,
> >> >> >> updates,
> >> >> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns, lost
> >> >> >> audio,
> >> >> >> poor
> >> >> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
> >> >> >> Quicktime
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can use
> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your music,
> >> >> >> videos
> >> >> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I was
> >> >> >> scammed by
> >> >> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
> >> >> >> possible
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on this?
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> just
> >> >> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots of
> >> >> >> money
> >> >> >> for!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----------------
> >> >> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> "I
> >> >> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
> >> >> >> follow
> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> then
> >> >> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 

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J

John Inzer

The following free online converter can
convert .mov files:

MediaConvert
http://media-convert.com/

Also you may find Super to be worth a try:

SUPER © Simplified
Universal Player Encoder & Renderer
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER_1
(the mirror download site is faster)

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
==================================

> Papa John:
> You gave me good advice to "wait for automatic update of SP1 unless
> you
> really need it", and want you to know I'm still waiting cuz I don't
> want to
> download SP1 from Microsoft since now I know why it hasn't appeared
> on MY
> automatic update. Mike Nash, Windows Product Management, has blog
> "Windows
> Vista News" at link:
> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/04/announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx
> ). Nash says: "In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista
> SP1 to
> Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded
> automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines
> has a
> driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1
> automatically. As
> updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed
> automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from
> getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will
> automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have
> a good
> experience."
> I must have some of those drivers that don't update correctly and
> since I
> don't need any "bad experiences", I think I'll wait for SP1 to appear
> in
> automatic Update.
> If you want to hear lots of bad experiences trying to download SP1,
> check
> out the windowsvistablog.com site and read about angry Vista users
> upset with
> Microsoft because of many SP1 issues: not identifying which drivers
> don't
> work, not fixing driver problems before release, no "official"
> one-stop
> website to address issues and problems directly. MS could have sent
> notices
> via auto-update about cause of delays and problems instead of
> allowing users
> to spend useless hours trying to install or fix crashed systems. Very
> bad PR
> for MS and their SP1.
> Meanwhile, what is Microsoft Expressions? Is it something I can use to
> convert MOV files to WMV? Does it need SP1 loaded first and will I
> still need
> Quicktime? (which downloads needed and in what order?)
> Thanks again, Papa John, for good advice and clear directions.
> Still waiting,
> Silverwire
>
>
>
> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>

>> the help file says it does.... but I'd like to test it. I'd like a
>> 3g2 test file, so email one and I'll let you know.
>>
>> papajohn.....at..... chartermi...... dot..... net
>>
>> --
>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>
>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>
>>
>> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]

>>> Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone
>>> uses those
>>> for video) to .WMV?
>>>
>>> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>>>
>>>> It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP
>>>> laptop and just conversted an MOV file to check it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>>>
>>>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]
>>>>> PapaJohn--
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a
>>>>> trial version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can
>>>>> either buy the program, or let it revert to the free Express
>>>>> version. I'm just looking
>>>>> for
>>>>> something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with
>>>>> Windows Movie
>>>>> Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know if the Express version will still make the
>>>>> conversion, or is
>>>>> that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end
>>>>> of the trial
>>>>> period?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> LisaR
>>>>>
>>>>> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just
>>>>>> tested the
>>>>>> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file
>>>>>> conversion to WMV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the
>>>>>> system, so I
>>>>>> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was
>>>>>> enough. The
>>>>>> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and
>>>>>> sounds good,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> is in sync.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:O%[email protected]
>>>>>>> My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a
>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>> about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't
>>>>>>> checked in
>>>>>>> Vista yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
>>>>>>> converts
>>>>>>> MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't
>>>>>>> tried converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good idea, something to check.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]
>>>>>>>> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My
>>>>>>>> HPm7750n
>>>>>>>> Vista Hm
>>>>>>>> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM
>>>>>>>> 6.0.6, Muvee
>>>>>>>> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless
>>>>>>>> pieces
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> junk
>>>>>>>> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users
>>>>>>>> have same
>>>>>>>> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have
>>>>>>>> codecs,
>>>>>>>> updates,
>>>>>>>> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns,
>>>>>>>> lost audio,
>>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>>> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
>>>>>>>> Quicktime
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we
>>>>>>>> can use this
>>>>>>>> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your
>>>>>>>> music, videos
>>>>>>>> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I
>>>>>>>> was scammed by
>>>>>>>> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on
>>>>>>>> this? I
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid
>>>>>>>> lots of money
>>>>>>>> for!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft
>>>>>>>> responds to the
>>>>>>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
>>>>>>>> click the
>>>>>>>> "I
>>>>>>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
>>>>>>>> button, follow
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
>>>>>>>> Newsreader and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
 

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P

PapaJohn

Hi Silverwire,

Yes, the free trial and then the ongoing free Express version of the
Expression Encoder 2 can convert MOV files to WMV. It's now in first place
on my website's list of conversion tools for the file type.

http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/download.aspx?key=encoder2beta

It needs the SP1 version of XP (when you're ready for it someday).... and
the .net framework version 3.5 (which it'll download/install for you as part
of its instsallation)

To handle MOV files, it'll need codecs... if you don't have them,
downloading/installing iTunes, with the optional QuickTime Player... is
sufficient.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/

thanks for the good words
--

PapaJohn (MVP)
www.papajohn.org

"Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> Papa John:
> You gave me good advice to "wait for automatic update of SP1 unless you
> really need it", and want you to know I'm still waiting cuz I don't want
> to
> download SP1 from Microsoft since now I know why it hasn't appeared on MY
> automatic update. Mike Nash, Windows Product Management, has blog "Windows
> Vista News" at link:
> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/04/announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx )
> .
> Nash says: "In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to
> Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded
> automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a
> driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically.
> As
> updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed
> automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from
> getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will
> automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a
> good
> experience."
> I must have some of those drivers that don't update correctly and since I
> don't need any "bad experiences", I think I'll wait for SP1 to appear in
> automatic Update.
> If you want to hear lots of bad experiences trying to download SP1, check
> out the windowsvistablog.com site and read about angry Vista users upset
> with
> Microsoft because of many SP1 issues: not identifying which drivers don't
> work, not fixing driver problems before release, no "official" one-stop
> website to address issues and problems directly. MS could have sent
> notices
> via auto-update about cause of delays and problems instead of allowing
> users
> to spend useless hours trying to install or fix crashed systems. Very bad
> PR
> for MS and their SP1.
> Meanwhile, what is Microsoft Expressions? Is it something I can use to
> convert MOV files to WMV? Does it need SP1 loaded first and will I still
> need
> Quicktime? (which downloads needed and in what order?)
> Thanks again, Papa John, for good advice and clear directions.
> Still waiting,
> Silverwire
>
>
>
> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>

>> the help file says it does.... but I'd like to test it. I'd like a 3g2
>> test
>> file, so email one and I'll let you know.
>>
>> papajohn.....at..... chartermi...... dot..... net
>>
>> --
>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>>
>> PapaJohn (MVP)
>>
>>
>> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]

>> > Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone uses
>> > those
>> > for video) to .WMV?
>> >
>> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
>> >
>> >> It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP
>> >> laptop
>> >> and just conversted an MOV file to check it.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>> >>
>> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> news:[email protected]
>> >> > PapaJohn--
>> >> >
>> >> > According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a
>> >> > trial
>> >> > version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy
>> >> > the
>> >> > program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just
>> >> > looking
>> >> > for
>> >> > something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows
>> >> > Movie
>> >> > Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion,
>> >> > or
>> >> > is
>> >> > that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of
>> >> > the
>> >> > trial
>> >> > period?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > LisaR
>> >> >
>> >> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just
>> >> >> tested
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> WMV.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system,
>> >> >> so
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was
>> >> >> enough.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds
>> >> >> good,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> is in sync.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:O%[email protected]
>> >> >> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a
>> >> >> > section
>> >> >> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't
>> >> >> > checked
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > Vista yet.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
>> >> >> > converts
>> >> >> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't
>> >> >> > tried
>> >> >> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Good idea, something to check.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > PapaJohn (MVP)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:[email protected]
>> >> >> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My
>> >> >> >> HPm7750n
>> >> >> >> Vista Hm
>> >> >> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6,
>> >> >> >> Muvee
>> >> >> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless
>> >> >> >> pieces
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> junk
>> >> >> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users
>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> same
>> >> >> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have
>> >> >> >> codecs,
>> >> >> >> updates,
>> >> >> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns,
>> >> >> >> lost
>> >> >> >> audio,
>> >> >> >> poor
>> >> >> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
>> >> >> >> Quicktime
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can
>> >> >> >> use
>> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your
>> >> >> >> music,
>> >> >> >> videos
>> >> >> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I
>> >> >> >> was
>> >> >> >> scammed by
>> >> >> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
>> >> >> >> possible
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on
>> >> >> >> this?
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> money
>> >> >> >> for!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ----------------
>> >> >> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
>> >> >> >> click
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> "I
>> >> >> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> >> >> follow
>> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
>> >> >> >> Newsreader
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> then
>> >> >> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
 

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S

Silverwire

PapaJohn:
Did you mean Vista instead of XP? You say "it" (Expressions) needs SP1
version of XP & the .net framework version 3.5 (which will be
dwnload/installed for me "when I'm ready".) Sure hope you meant Vista cuz I
never had XP. I bought HP Media Center system new last March 2007 with Vista
already installed. (sometimes wish I bought XP instead!) I'm ready, but it's
either Vista or drivers not ready!

The link I gave last week (Nash, Windows Product Mgmt) says problem with SP1
& Vista, not XP. Says no MS auto download of SP1 on Vista if drivers don't
pass some "use test" MS uses during auto update & no SP1 auto dwnload until
new compatible drivers available. Most who download from MS website say have
system crashes, probly frm those uncompatible drivers.

Many on forum really upset cuz MS won't say WHICH drivers don't work with
Vista & SP1. They want them ID'd so users put pressure on driver mfg's. to
make compatible w/Vista sooner. I would too if I knew which. Any idea which
drivers cause Vista problems? I think maybe my new HPC5180 printer I got same
time Vista. Sometimes printer freezes up Vista system, have to disconnect
&/or restart printer, sometimes delete print spool file to release system.

Trying to convert .mov files in Vista has really opened a can of snakes (not
worms!) for me & many others as I see on several forums. Guess I just look at
it as opportunity to learn but sure is time consuming! Hope MS & drivers get
compatible soon!
Thanks again for your patience and information.
Silverwire

"PapaJohn" wrote:

> Hi Silverwire,
>
> Yes, the free trial and then the ongoing free Express version of the
> Expression Encoder 2 can convert MOV files to WMV. It's now in first place
> on my website's list of conversion tools for the file type.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/download.aspx?key=encoder2beta
>
> It needs the SP1 version of XP (when you're ready for it someday).... and
> the .net framework version 3.5 (which it'll download/install for you as part
> of its instsallation)
>
> To handle MOV files, it'll need codecs... if you don't have them,
> downloading/installing iTunes, with the optional QuickTime Player... is
> sufficient.
>
> http://www.apple.com/itunes/
>
> thanks for the good words
> --
>
> PapaJohn (MVP)
> www.papajohn.org
>
> "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

> > Papa John:
> > You gave me good advice to "wait for automatic update of SP1 unless you
> > really need it", and want you to know I'm still waiting cuz I don't want
> > to
> > download SP1 from Microsoft since now I know why it hasn't appeared on MY
> > automatic update. Mike Nash, Windows Product Management, has blog "Windows
> > Vista News" at link:
> > http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/04/announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx )
> > .
> > Nash says: "In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to
> > Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded
> > automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a
> > driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically.
> > As
> > updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed
> > automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from
> > getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will
> > automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a
> > good
> > experience."
> > I must have some of those drivers that don't update correctly and since I
> > don't need any "bad experiences", I think I'll wait for SP1 to appear in
> > automatic Update.
> > If you want to hear lots of bad experiences trying to download SP1, check
> > out the windowsvistablog.com site and read about angry Vista users upset
> > with
> > Microsoft because of many SP1 issues: not identifying which drivers don't
> > work, not fixing driver problems before release, no "official" one-stop
> > website to address issues and problems directly. MS could have sent
> > notices
> > via auto-update about cause of delays and problems instead of allowing
> > users
> > to spend useless hours trying to install or fix crashed systems. Very bad
> > PR
> > for MS and their SP1.
> > Meanwhile, what is Microsoft Expressions? Is it something I can use to
> > convert MOV files to WMV? Does it need SP1 loaded first and will I still
> > need
> > Quicktime? (which downloads needed and in what order?)
> > Thanks again, Papa John, for good advice and clear directions.
> > Still waiting,
> > Silverwire
> >
> >
> >
> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >

> >> the help file says it does.... but I'd like to test it. I'd like a 3g2
> >> test
> >> file, so email one and I'll let you know.
> >>
> >> papajohn.....at..... chartermi...... dot..... net
> >>
> >> --
> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>
> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>
> >>
> >> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]
> >> > Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone uses
> >> > those
> >> > for video) to .WMV?
> >> >
> >> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP
> >> >> laptop
> >> >> and just conversted an MOV file to check it.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >> >>
> >> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> news:[email protected]
> >> >> > PapaJohn--
> >> >> >
> >> >> > According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a
> >> >> > trial
> >> >> > version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just
> >> >> > looking
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows
> >> >> > Movie
> >> >> > Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion,
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > trial
> >> >> > period?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > LisaR
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just
> >> >> >> tested
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file conversion
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> WMV.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the system,
> >> >> >> so
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was
> >> >> >> enough.
> >> >> >> The
> >> >> >> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and sounds
> >> >> >> good,
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> is in sync.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:O%[email protected]
> >> >> >> > My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a
> >> >> >> > section
> >> >> >> > about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't
> >> >> >> > checked
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > Vista yet.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
> >> >> >> > converts
> >> >> >> > MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't
> >> >> >> > tried
> >> >> >> > converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Good idea, something to check.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > PapaJohn (MVP)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in
> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> > news:[email protected]
> >> >> >> >> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My
> >> >> >> >> HPm7750n
> >> >> >> >> Vista Hm
> >> >> >> >> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM 6.0.6,
> >> >> >> >> Muvee
> >> >> >> >> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless
> >> >> >> >> pieces
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> junk
> >> >> >> >> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users
> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> same
> >> >> >> >> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have
> >> >> >> >> codecs,
> >> >> >> >> updates,
> >> >> >> >> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns,
> >> >> >> >> lost
> >> >> >> >> audio,
> >> >> >> >> poor
> >> >> >> >> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
> >> >> >> >> Quicktime
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we can
> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your
> >> >> >> >> music,
> >> >> >> >> videos
> >> >> >> >> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I
> >> >> >> >> was
> >> >> >> >> scammed by
> >> >> >> >> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
> >> >> >> >> possible
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on
> >> >> >> >> this?
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> just
> >> >> >> >> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid lots
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> money
> >> >> >> >> for!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ----------------
> >> >> >> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
> >> >> >> >> click
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> "I
> >> >> >> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
> >> >> >> >> follow
> >> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
> >> >> >> >> Newsreader
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> then
> >> >> >> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 

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Silverwire

John:
Thanks for reply, but need to know if you are using MediaConvert on Vista?
If yes, did you have to download (or did MS auto download) SP1 to Vista? I
read Kim Komando's report on trying MediaConvert for some video files and she
said while it worked for her, it was rather complicated to use and I'm not
sure she converted .mov files.

Lots others on this and other forums offered advice for conversion programs
but none were specific to Vista and/or to converting .mov files except
PapaJohn. Most were for XP which I don't have, or for other types of files to
be converted. Most posts on .mov conversion are questions "how to" and horror
stories about trying to convert (with no solutions) or else they don't say
what OS they were using.

I use my computer daily for several groups emails and information
newsletters, and other stuff online every day so don't want to crash my
system which is what I see talked about on this and other forums where users
have tried many different programs to convert .mov files with very bad
results. Right now, I need my computer for all other stuff more than I have
to convert my .mov files although I sure would like to be able to convert a
few short videos I took on trip to China 2 years ago.

I could not find any Vista success stories till PapaJohn's reply plus I
found the MS forum which explained why I had not yet seen auto download of
SP1.

Thanks
Silverwire

"John Inzer" wrote:

> The following free online converter can
> convert .mov files:
>
> MediaConvert
> http://media-convert.com/
>
> Also you may find Super to be worth a try:
>
> SUPER © Simplified
> Universal Player Encoder & Renderer
> http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER_1
> (the mirror download site is faster)
>
> --
>
> John Inzer
> Digital Media MVP
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
> ==================================
>

> > Papa John:
> > You gave me good advice to "wait for automatic update of SP1 unless
> > you
> > really need it", and want you to know I'm still waiting cuz I don't
> > want to
> > download SP1 from Microsoft since now I know why it hasn't appeared
> > on MY
> > automatic update. Mike Nash, Windows Product Management, has blog
> > "Windows
> > Vista News" at link:
> > http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/04/announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx
> > ). Nash says: "In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista
> > SP1 to
> > Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded
> > automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines
> > has a
> > driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1
> > automatically. As
> > updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed
> > automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from
> > getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will
> > automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have
> > a good
> > experience."
> > I must have some of those drivers that don't update correctly and
> > since I
> > don't need any "bad experiences", I think I'll wait for SP1 to appear
> > in
> > automatic Update.
> > If you want to hear lots of bad experiences trying to download SP1,
> > check
> > out the windowsvistablog.com site and read about angry Vista users
> > upset with
> > Microsoft because of many SP1 issues: not identifying which drivers
> > don't
> > work, not fixing driver problems before release, no "official"
> > one-stop
> > website to address issues and problems directly. MS could have sent
> > notices
> > via auto-update about cause of delays and problems instead of
> > allowing users
> > to spend useless hours trying to install or fix crashed systems. Very
> > bad PR
> > for MS and their SP1.
> > Meanwhile, what is Microsoft Expressions? Is it something I can use to
> > convert MOV files to WMV? Does it need SP1 loaded first and will I
> > still need
> > Quicktime? (which downloads needed and in what order?)
> > Thanks again, Papa John, for good advice and clear directions.
> > Still waiting,
> > Silverwire
> >
> >
> >
> > "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >

> >> the help file says it does.... but I'd like to test it. I'd like a
> >> 3g2 test file, so email one and I'll let you know.
> >>
> >> papajohn.....at..... chartermi...... dot..... net
> >>
> >> --
> >> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>
> >> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>
> >>
> >> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]
> >>> Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone
> >>> uses those
> >>> for video) to .WMV?
> >>>
> >>> "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP
> >>>> laptop and just conversted an MOV file to check it.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>>>
> >>>> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "LisaR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>> news:[email protected]
> >>>>> PapaJohn--
> >>>>>
> >>>>> According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a
> >>>>> trial version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can
> >>>>> either buy the program, or let it revert to the free Express
> >>>>> version. I'm just looking
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with
> >>>>> Windows Movie
> >>>>> Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you know if the Express version will still make the
> >>>>> conversion, or is
> >>>>> that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end
> >>>>> of the trial
> >>>>> period?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LisaR
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "PapaJohn" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I did a fresh install of Vista Premium SP1 last night, and just
> >>>>>> tested the
> >>>>>> new Expression Encoder 2 beta on it... doing an MOV file
> >>>>>> conversion to WMV.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It wouldn't import an MOV file without a player app on the
> >>>>>> system, so I
> >>>>>> installed iTunes with the bundled QuickTime player. That was
> >>>>>> enough. The
> >>>>>> conversion process went well and the new WMV file looks and
> >>>>>> sounds good,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> is in sync.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "PapaJohn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:O%[email protected]
> >>>>>>> My website's Import Movie Source Files > Video > MOV page has a
> >>>>>>> section
> >>>>>>> about converting them... with 3 conversion tools I haven't
> >>>>>>> checked in
> >>>>>>> Vista yet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 3rd on my list is the new Expression Media Encoder, which I know
> >>>>>>> converts
> >>>>>>> MOV files fine on XP. The app runs well on Vista but I haven't
> >>>>>>> tried converting MOV files yet in the Vista environment.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Good idea, something to check.
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> website references are to www.papajohn.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> PapaJohn (MVP)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Silverwire" <[email protected]> wrote in
> >>>>>>> message
> >>>>>>> news:[email protected]
> >>>>>>>> My Olympus FE190 & Nikon cameras use .mov video format. My
> >>>>>>>> HPm7750n
> >>>>>>>> Vista Hm
> >>>>>>>> Premium OS w/media cntr pkg (WMP, WMC, NVIDIA 6150LE, WMM
> >>>>>>>> 6.0.6, Muvee
> >>>>>>>> Autoproducer 5.0, Creator Basic V9-Roxio) all totally useless
> >>>>>>>> pieces
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> junk
> >>>>>>>> for videos because none use .mov files and Vista can't convert.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I googled, read many forums incl. this 1 & find 1000s of users
> >>>>>>>> have same
> >>>>>>>> problem. So far, no successful solution. Some claim to have
> >>>>>>>> codecs,
> >>>>>>>> updates,
> >>>>>>>> other fixes but downloaders all complain of buffer overruns,
> >>>>>>>> lost audio,
> >>>>>>>> poor
> >>>>>>>> quality, or just don't work in Vista, incl. Creator V10.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Microsoft needs to bite the Apple (bullet) & make a deal with
> >>>>>>>> Quicktime
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> get a conversion program that WORKS in Vista as "fix" so we
> >>>>>>>> can use this
> >>>>>>>> over-priced, ego-inflated, misrepresented OS to "Access your
> >>>>>>>> music, videos
> >>>>>>>> and photos" as it claims on the front of my PC. I feel like I
> >>>>>>>> was scammed by
> >>>>>>>> ads and salesmen when I bought PC last year.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Anybody else out there interested in complaining on every forum
> >>>>>>>> possible
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> get Microsoft moving on a solution? Is MS already working on
> >>>>>>>> this? I
> >>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>> want to be able to make movies and use the features I paid
> >>>>>>>> lots of money
> >>>>>>>> for!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----------------
> >>>>>>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft
> >>>>>>>> responds to the
> >>>>>>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
> >>>>>>>> click the
> >>>>>>>> "I
> >>>>>>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
> >>>>>>>> button, follow
> >>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
> >>>>>>>> Newsreader and
> >>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=a1872c28-04bb-4db1-a995-16242629a3cf&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
>
>
>
>
>
 

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John Inzer

Silverwire wrote:

> John:
> Thanks for reply, but need to know if you are using MediaConvert on
> Vista? If yes, did you have to download (or did MS auto download) SP1
> to Vista? I read Kim Komando's report on trying MediaConvert for some
> video files and she said while it worked for her, it was rather
> complicated to use and I'm not sure she converted .mov files.
==================================
Working with video can be extremely confusing
and you just have to learn as much as you can
and make your own choices.

MediaConvert is an online converter and is
quite simple to use. You do not have to install
anything.

If you wish to try it...read the following:

1) In the "File" window...click the "Browse"
button and navigate to the .mov file you
wish to convert. When you select the
file...the path will appear in the 'File' field.

2) The "Input field" should automatically
show..."Apple Quicktime (.mov)" leave it
as is...

3) "Output format" has two drop windows...
the field on the left will display, "No video
preset"...leave it as is...

4) In the next drop window to the right
you can choose the format you wish to
convert to...try:

Audio Video Interleave (.avi)

5) Left click the blue OK button.

Now...wait for the file to be converted.
(be patient)

When the conversion is complete you will see:

File successfull converted !

Left click the Download button...the Save As
screen will appear...left click the Save button /
Choose a folder to save in...left click the Save
button. When the file is downloaded you should
be able to play it with Windows Media Player
and it should be compatible with Movie maker.

That's it! Good luck.

Not sure how the question on SP1 applies to this
issue. Maybe the following forum would be a better
place to discuss SP1:

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Use this forum for all issues related to Windows Vista SP1
http://tinyurl.com/2kd3fu
or...
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=1992&SiteID=17
--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 

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