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my computer worth overclocking?

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#1
i have a hp p6649c it has a amd quad 635 2.9 cpu 1 tb hard drive 16 gig ddr3 ram integrated sound and integrated graphicsany help would be most appriciated.
and also if it is worth it i'll need instructions on how to do it
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg

richc46

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#2

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
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#3
enough said right there i never want to experience the bsod after we get this taken care of i dont even want to overclock now thank you and i will post my dump logs from the verifier tomarrow morning Richard, i assume the tips for speeding up vista also work for speeding up windows 7 or am i incorrect?
also as one stated installing more memory and i plan to however my question is that with the bsod issue we are working on at present is it okay to install new ram or will it be infected by the present issue rendering it useless if i were to use it in any other computer?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg

richc46

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#4
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You can install the new ram, but if you have a virus there will still be problem. The virus however does not affect the ram. Once you get rid of the virus, you will be ok. That being, said, I would wait. Lets not try to create more issues before the prior ones are taken care of.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
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112
#5
roger that thanks for the response i will wait, did you see my post about my keyboard freezing and not responding i posted back over in crashes forum?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg

townsbg

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#6
Dude if you have 16 gb then you already have way more ram than 7 needs. There is almost no possibility that you are using up all that ram therefore more ram probably won't help. You are no better off with 16 than with 6 just as long as you have enough to run the programs that you normally run. I think that the insane amounts of ram installed in today's computers are usually unnecessary and just a waste of money. Open task manager and you can see in the bottom right hand corner the amount of physical memory in use. Unless you are usually at or over 100% more ram won't help. Do yourself a favor and save your money.

In addition according your the system specs 16 gb is all your system currently supports. So you can't add more.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Mid 2010 iMac
    CPU
    3.2 Ghz I3
    Memory
    8 gb

Patonb

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#7
For the record, overclovcking is always worth it... Free performance and when setup its stable and 0 BSOD. So i fully disagree with rich.

If youre bsoding you are not overclocked properly. I run 4.0Ghz on my i7 950 24/7 365 and i fold@home, so i'm not just and idle computer.

All that said, you can't overclock. All but a scant few prebuilt computers have locked BIOS so its impossible. Then theres allk the cooling issues associated with prebuilts.

So yes your computer would rock overclocked, but its not possible, and would burn up yoyr parts if you do.

Btw, if Towns correct, and you have 16Gigs, and youre bsoding... its because of too much ram and not enough power.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Dual L5639 // i7 950 @ 4.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Evga SR-2 // Gigabyte x58a-ud3r
    Memory
    12Gig Corsair XMS3 // 6Gig OCZ Gold
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual 22" // Headless
    Hard Drives
    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
    PSU
    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
    Case
    Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra // Antec 900v1
    Cooling
    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
    Other Info
    Acer 8930 laptop with x9100...

richc46

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#8
I disaagree with Patomb, leave the computer at factory specs. The manufacturers of the computers know the best comb of speed and reliable performance. What you get with OC is not worth it (that last portion is subjective)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
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#9
toeply to town iam currentlg 67% memory and to address the issue of power supply vs ram with my stock 250w(i know weak) should i throw the 500w i got laying here in the computer?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg

Patonb

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#10
No the factories do not, they build their systems so that to get a more powerful setup, you have to buy a new one from them., Infact most prebuilts run more Vcore than is required. Most likely so thgat there is not a chance a power issue happens.

If that were true, then the chips would not have variables built into the cpu to change the speed.
The difference between the 1366 i5/7 chips is the multipliers... a 920 has a 20 multi, the 950 has a 24. Same exact chip.

Intel has designed their products to do it, and the companies purposely lock them out so as they can't. You can get the exact mobo oem in a hp or buy one from the manufactuer and it'll be unlocked.

All that said, overclocking isn't something that is easy or garrenteed to do, or to get a solid high oc... but it is definately doable, and has extended the life of many systems when they get older.

I replyed in your bsod topic on the psu, as its a completely different subject.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Dual L5639 // i7 950 @ 4.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Evga SR-2 // Gigabyte x58a-ud3r
    Memory
    12Gig Corsair XMS3 // 6Gig OCZ Gold
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual 22" // Headless
    Hard Drives
    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
    PSU
    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
    Case
    Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra // Antec 900v1
    Cooling
    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
    Other Info
    Acer 8930 laptop with x9100...

townsbg

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#11
Do you really have 16 gig? If so what are you running that's taking up over 10 gb? Regardless your computer isn't designed for more than 16 however that might change with a future bios update. For the record I don't recommend a bios update.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Mid 2010 iMac
    CPU
    3.2 Ghz I3
    Memory
    8 gb
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#12
yes i have 16gig i use auto cad and i do alot of video editing,however my hard drive crashed and i put in a 1.5 tb and attempted to use the resteore disks from my hp to load the operating system but iam getting a error message saying the drive is part of a paton i didnt think the oem restore disks were tied to the hard drive as well only the motherboard correct?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg
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112
#13
hp machines blow the motherboard and the hard drive are both tatooed you cant change the power supply as the motherboard recieves its dmi number from it and if the powersupply does not supply the correct dmi number its a no go so basicaly if anything takes a crap on a hp your out of luck unless you spend ungodly amounts to buy the parts from hp sorry had to vent a bit
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg

townsbg

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#14
Well that stinks. I knew that the disk is tied to the computer (that's common) but I didn't know that about the hard drive. How did you confirm that?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Mid 2010 iMac
    CPU
    3.2 Ghz I3
    Memory
    8 gb
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112
#15
hp customer service after about 3 hours of b*tching i finaly got hp to replace my motherboard cpu hard drive optical drive and psu plus there sending me a box and a prepaid label to send this paperweight to them so hopefuly that will solve my issue since all that is left is the memory (yes some how the optical drive is tied in for reading recovery disks only if the recovery disk doesnt read the imbedded code from the optical drive the recovery dicks will not work otherwise you can change the drive all you want it only has to be the stock one to read recovery disks that was told to me by the manager of the service department scheduling my repair
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg

Patonb

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#16
****ty, well if theyre gtoing to do it, thats something to celebrate. G/l with it all
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Dual L5639 // i7 950 @ 4.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Evga SR-2 // Gigabyte x58a-ud3r
    Memory
    12Gig Corsair XMS3 // 6Gig OCZ Gold
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual 22" // Headless
    Hard Drives
    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
    PSU
    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
    Case
    Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra // Antec 900v1
    Cooling
    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
    Other Info
    Acer 8930 laptop with x9100...
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#17
now you said that 16 gigs is a bad idea so if i remove the 16 gigs and were to step down to say 6 gigs the problem i see is that since it is dual channel memory and i would be using a odd number of dimm slots for 6 gigs(3 dimms) it would revert the memory back to single channel would i be better off only using 2 of the 3 sticks and have 4 gigs so it remains dual channel? or should i go out and buy a 8 gig kit 4x2
thanks for the help
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    hp 6649c
    CPU
    amd x4 635 2.9
    Motherboard
    stock
    Memory
    4 gigs ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp 27 inch 1080p and gateway 23 inch 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital 1tb
    PSU
    stock 250watt
    Case
    stock
    Cooling
    stock
    Mouse
    logitech k320 wireless
    Keyboard
    logitech k320 wireless
    Internet Speed
    comcast cable 20meg

Patonb

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#18
You probably need only 8. Especially with problems occurring. Once fixed up, no reason to try 16.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Dual L5639 // i7 950 @ 4.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Evga SR-2 // Gigabyte x58a-ud3r
    Memory
    12Gig Corsair XMS3 // 6Gig OCZ Gold
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual 22" // Headless
    Hard Drives
    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
    PSU
    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
    Case
    Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra // Antec 900v1
    Cooling
    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
    Other Info
    Acer 8930 laptop with x9100...

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