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circulent

#1
I am exploring the use of Virtual Server 2005, and have a few basic questions:

1. Is it possible to virtualize an existing server into 2 separate servers?
If so, do i simply install the application and trun from there? Or do I need
to build it fdrom the ground up?

2. Once a physical box is setup with 2 virtual servers, is it possible to
setup a different static IP for each virtual server? (I would think so but
just want to confirm)

Thanks
 

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Danny Sanders

#2
> 1. Is it possible to virtualize an existing server into 2 separate

> servers?
> If so, do i simply install the application and trun from there? Or do I
> need
> to build it fdrom the ground up?
Not totally sure what you are asking here. You can set up 2 separate servers
and run one service from the existing server on one of the servers and run
another service from the existing server on the second machine.

> 2. Once a physical box is setup with 2 virtual servers, is it possible to
> setup a different static IP for each virtual server? (I would think so but
> just want to confirm)
Yes


hth
DDS


"circulent" <circulent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I am exploring the use of Virtual Server 2005, and have a few basic
>questions:
>
> 1. Is it possible to virtualize an existing server into 2 separate
> servers?
> If so, do i simply install the application and trun from there? Or do I
> need
> to build it fdrom the ground up?
>
> 2. Once a physical box is setup with 2 virtual servers, is it possible to
> setup a different static IP for each virtual server? (I would think so but
> just want to confirm)
>
> Thanks
 

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circulent

#3
Let me restate the 1st question:

I have an existing file server which i would like to turn into a file server
and a separate application server. Can this be done with this software? Or
does do the 2 separate OS' have to be installed clean from the start and
configured from there?

"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> > 1. Is it possible to virtualize an existing server into 2 separate
> > servers?
> > If so, do i simply install the application and trun from there? Or do I
> > need
> > to build it fdrom the ground up?
>
> Not totally sure what you are asking here. You can set up 2 separate servers
> and run one service from the existing server on one of the servers and run
> another service from the existing server on the second machine.
>

> > 2. Once a physical box is setup with 2 virtual servers, is it possible to
> > setup a different static IP for each virtual server? (I would think so but
> > just want to confirm)
>
> Yes
>
>
> hth
> DDS
>
>
> "circulent" <circulent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B466191F-2C8B-4401-B397-E84D835D13A5@xxxxxx

> >I am exploring the use of Virtual Server 2005, and have a few basic
> >questions:
> >
> > 1. Is it possible to virtualize an existing server into 2 separate
> > servers?
> > If so, do i simply install the application and trun from there? Or do I
> > need
> > to build it fdrom the ground up?
> >
> > 2. Once a physical box is setup with 2 virtual servers, is it possible to
> > setup a different static IP for each virtual server? (I would think so but
> > just want to confirm)
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
>
 

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Danny Sanders

#4
> I have an existing file server which i would like to turn into a file

> server
> and a separate application server. Can this be done with this software? Or
> does do the 2 separate OS' have to be installed clean from the start and
> configured from there?

Virtual server allows you to have a beefed up host server (RAM, disk space,
and CPU power) and you install other servers on that beefed up host and
divide the resources of the beefed up host between the installed guests.

> I have an existing file server which i would like to turn into a file
> server
> and a separate application server.
Virtual server does not "turn an existing server" into anything. You install
one guest OS and set it up as a file server and install another guest OS and
set it up as a "separate application server".

FYI if the licensing has not changed, if you install the beefed up host with
Win 2k3 Enterprise you are entitled to install up to 4 guests operating
systems under the Enterprise licensing.


hth
DDS


"circulent" <circulent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Let me restate the 1st question:
>
> I have an existing file server which i would like to turn into a file
> server
> and a separate application server. Can this be done with this software? Or
> does do the 2 separate OS' have to be installed clean from the start and
> configured from there?
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>

>> > 1. Is it possible to virtualize an existing server into 2 separate
>> > servers?
>> > If so, do i simply install the application and trun from there? Or do I
>> > need
>> > to build it fdrom the ground up?
>>
>> Not totally sure what you are asking here. You can set up 2 separate
>> servers
>> and run one service from the existing server on one of the servers and
>> run
>> another service from the existing server on the second machine.
>>

>> > 2. Once a physical box is setup with 2 virtual servers, is it possible
>> > to
>> > setup a different static IP for each virtual server? (I would think so
>> > but
>> > just want to confirm)
>>
>> Yes
>>
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>>
>> "circulent" <circulent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:B466191F-2C8B-4401-B397-E84D835D13A5@xxxxxx

>> >I am exploring the use of Virtual Server 2005, and have a few basic
>> >questions:
>> >
>> > 1. Is it possible to virtualize an existing server into 2 separate
>> > servers?
>> > If so, do i simply install the application and trun from there? Or do I
>> > need
>> > to build it fdrom the ground up?
>> >
>> > 2. Once a physical box is setup with 2 virtual servers, is it possible
>> > to
>> > setup a different static IP for each virtual server? (I would think so
>> > but
>> > just want to confirm)
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>>
>>
 

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Bill Grant

#5
"circulent" <circulent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Let me restate the 1st question:
>
> I have an existing file server which i would like to turn into a file
> server
> and a separate application server. Can this be done with this software? Or
> does do the 2 separate OS' have to be installed clean from the start and
> configured from there?
>
Virtual Server is an application program, not a magic potion.

How would you turn one physical server into two physical servers? When
you work out how to do that, you will be able to do much the same thing
using two virtual machines instead of the two physical ones.
 

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Bo Berglund

#6
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:12:01 -0700, circulent
<circulent@xxxxxx> wrote:

>Let me restate the 1st question:
>
>I have an existing file server which i would like to turn into a file server
>and a separate application server. Can this be done with this software? Or
>does do the 2 separate OS' have to be installed clean from the start and
>configured from there?
>
So what you want is to do P2V (physical to virtual) to create two
virtual machines from one physical machine while also stripping one of
some functions of the original and the other of other functions on the
original?

It is hard enough to do P2V in the first place since the hardware
differs so much from the physical world inside a virtualized
environment. I know of exactly zero programs that will do what you
want on the fly.

Do yourself a break and create the virtual machines from scratch.
You can do one first and install the basic server operating system
including any security and other OS updates. Also install the VM
Additions.

Then you can clone this into two servers by copying the VHD file
(note: do not copy the vmc file) into a new folder and then create yet
another VS2005 guest while pointing it to the copied VHD disk. You
save yourself the OS installation time.
But you *must* run NewSID on the second server when you start it
because you cannot have two servers running with the same SID. This is
not an issue if you run the OS setup from scratch on the second guest
too (obviously with a fresh and empty VHD file in that case).

Then install any server role you want on these two servers.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
 

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circulent

#7
ok thanks Bo

"Bo Berglund" wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:12:01 -0700, circulent
> <circulent@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

> >Let me restate the 1st question:
> >
> >I have an existing file server which i would like to turn into a file server
> >and a separate application server. Can this be done with this software? Or
> >does do the 2 separate OS' have to be installed clean from the start and
> >configured from there?
> >
> So what you want is to do P2V (physical to virtual) to create two
> virtual machines from one physical machine while also stripping one of
> some functions of the original and the other of other functions on the
> original?
>
> It is hard enough to do P2V in the first place since the hardware
> differs so much from the physical world inside a virtualized
> environment. I know of exactly zero programs that will do what you
> want on the fly.
>
> Do yourself a break and create the virtual machines from scratch.
> You can do one first and install the basic server operating system
> including any security and other OS updates. Also install the VM
> Additions.
>
> Then you can clone this into two servers by copying the VHD file
> (note: do not copy the vmc file) into a new folder and then create yet
> another VS2005 guest while pointing it to the copied VHD disk. You
> save yourself the OS installation time.
> But you *must* run NewSID on the second server when you start it
> because you cannot have two servers running with the same SID. This is
> not an issue if you run the OS setup from scratch on the second guest
> too (obviously with a fresh and empty VHD file in that case).
>
> Then install any server role you want on these two servers.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>
 

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