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Partition managers for Vista

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Sphynx

#1
I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?

I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
definitely doesn't).

Thanks.
 

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Malke

#2
Sphynx wrote:
> I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>
> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
> definitely doesn't).
>
> Thanks.


Look at Terabyte's BootIT NG.


Malke
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John Barnes

#3
BootItNG seems to get good reviews.
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html

"Sphynx" <Sphynx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0CE30152-9B25-47BB-8472-E2F8AA166A20@microsoft.com...
>I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>
> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
> definitely doesn't).
>
> Thanks.
 

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#4
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:36:03 -0800, Sphynx wrote:

> I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>
> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
> definitely doesn't).
>
> Thanks.


I would suggest the GParted Live CD.
 

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Malke

#5
ray wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:36:03 -0800, Sphynx wrote:
>
>> I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
>> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>>
>> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
>> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
>> definitely doesn't).
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> I would suggest the GParted Live CD.
>


Unless you've actually tried GParted and know that Linux tools work with
Vista - and you might, I'm not dissing your skills but just mentioning
this - I would stay away from GParted for now and just stick with
something that is known to work with Vista. There is always a problem
with working with proprietary systems and Vista does some proprietary
partition structure things apparently. If the GParted maintainers
specifically say that it works with Vista and/or you've tried it, then
I've always like GParted on my Linux boxen.


Malke
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#6
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:44:50 -0800, Malke wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:36:03 -0800, Sphynx wrote:
>>
>>> I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
>>> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>>>
>>> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
>>> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
>>> definitely doesn't).
>>>
>>> Thanks.

>>
>> I would suggest the GParted Live CD.
>>

>
> Unless you've actually tried GParted and know that Linux tools work with
> Vista - and you might, I'm not dissing your skills but just mentioning
> this - I would stay away from GParted for now and just stick with
> something that is known to work with Vista. There is always a problem
> with working with proprietary systems and Vista does some proprietary
> partition structure things apparently. If the GParted maintainers
> specifically say that it works with Vista and/or you've tried it, then
> I've always like GParted on my Linux boxen.
>
>
> Malke


I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that vista uses NTFS.
GParted does NTFS.
 

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Malke

#7
ray wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:44:50 -0800, Malke wrote:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:36:03 -0800, Sphynx wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
>>>> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>>>>
>>>> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
>>>> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
>>>> definitely doesn't).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>> I would suggest the GParted Live CD.
>>>

>> Unless you've actually tried GParted and know that Linux tools work with
>> Vista - and you might, I'm not dissing your skills but just mentioning
>> this - I would stay away from GParted for now and just stick with
>> something that is known to work with Vista. There is always a problem
>> with working with proprietary systems and Vista does some proprietary
>> partition structure things apparently. If the GParted maintainers
>> specifically say that it works with Vista and/or you've tried it, then
>> I've always like GParted on my Linux boxen.


>
> I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that vista uses NTFS.
> GParted does NTFS.


My understanding is that the "flavor" of NTFS used by Vista is slightly
different than the one used by XP. Also, one of the partition experts on
a mailing list I belong to was noting that Vista puts some extra
information on partitions. I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention to
that topic so I don't remember all the details and I'm *not* a
partitioning expert. Please don't misunderstand me - this is not a
"don't use GParted" post. All I'm saying is "be cautious". I would say
the same thing about any partitioner if it wasn't known to work 100%
with Vista. You might want to experiment with using GParted and report
back to us. Or not. ;-)

Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
 

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#8
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:36:52 -0800, Malke wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:44:50 -0800, Malke wrote:
>>
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:36:03 -0800, Sphynx wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
>>>>> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
>>>>> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
>>>>> definitely doesn't).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>> I would suggest the GParted Live CD.
>>>>
>>> Unless you've actually tried GParted and know that Linux tools work with
>>> Vista - and you might, I'm not dissing your skills but just mentioning
>>> this - I would stay away from GParted for now and just stick with
>>> something that is known to work with Vista. There is always a problem
>>> with working with proprietary systems and Vista does some proprietary
>>> partition structure things apparently. If the GParted maintainers
>>> specifically say that it works with Vista and/or you've tried it, then
>>> I've always like GParted on my Linux boxen.

>
>>
>> I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that vista uses NTFS.
>> GParted does NTFS.

>
> My understanding is that the "flavor" of NTFS used by Vista is slightly
> different than the one used by XP. Also, one of the partition experts on
> a mailing list I belong to was noting that Vista puts some extra
> information on partitions. I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention to
> that topic so I don't remember all the details and I'm *not* a
> partitioning expert. Please don't misunderstand me - this is not a
> "don't use GParted" post. All I'm saying is "be cautious". I would say
> the same thing about any partitioner if it wasn't known to work 100%
> with Vista. You might want to experiment with using GParted and report
> back to us. Or not. ;-)
>
> Malke


I'd be happy to, you want to send me a laptop with vista on it?
 

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Malke

#9
ray wrote:

> I'd be happy to, you want to send me a laptop with vista on it?
>


I'm afraid I'm not one of the "influential bloggers" who got a test Acer
Ferrari and none of my laptops run Windows. You're on your own. ;-)

Cheers,


Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
 

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#10
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:12:27 -0800, Malke wrote:

> ray wrote:
>
>> I'd be happy to, you want to send me a laptop with vista on it?
>>

>
> I'm afraid I'm not one of the "influential bloggers" who got a test Acer
> Ferrari and none of my laptops run Windows. You're on your own. ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Malke


In that case, I think I'll save myself the $300.
 

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Scott

#11
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:44:50 -0800, Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid>
spake thusly:

>ray wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:36:03 -0800, Sphynx wrote:
>>
>>> I need a partition manager that is more advanced than the one bundled with
>>> Vista (which is inadequate). Does anyojne know of one?
>>>
>>> I believe PM8 only works on XP and Acronis doesn't officially state that
>>> theirs supports Vista (and judging by the issues raised on their forums -
>>> definitely doesn't).
>>>
>>> Thanks.

>>
>> I would suggest the GParted Live CD.
>>

>
>Unless you've actually tried GParted and know that Linux tools work with
>Vista - and you might, I'm not dissing your skills but just mentioning
>this - I would stay away from GParted for now and just stick with
>something that is known to work with Vista.


Right now I don't know of any partitioning software that claims to be
Vista compatible.

I used GParted last week.

The result?

Windows wouldn't boot.

BUT....

I then booted with the Vista DVD and did a repair and all was right
with the world (and I got my new partitions as I had hoped).

YMMV

If you try GParted and you computer explodes and kills every living
thing with a 5 mile radius don't blame me.

And ALWYAS back up before doing anything so drastic.
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DevilsPGD

#12
In message <ft8lt2tko1d1kgvaddemftba8m20u7eq67@4ax.com> Scott
<geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote:

>Right now I don't know of any partitioning software that claims to be
>Vista compatible.


Windows Vista's disk management has a reasonable chance of being
compatible, no?
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Scott

#13
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:22:57 -0700, DevilsPGD
<spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> spake thusly:

>In message <ft8lt2tko1d1kgvaddemftba8m20u7eq67@4ax.com> Scott
><geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote:
>
>>Right now I don't know of any partitioning software that claims to be
>>Vista compatible.

>
>Windows Vista's disk management has a reasonable chance of being
>compatible, no?


Well of course, but it's functionality is quite limited compared to
third-party software.

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DevilsPGD

#14
In message <s67mt2tboarv9g8t7fmdhiso0qvdvo6t5a@4ax.com> Scott
<geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:22:57 -0700, DevilsPGD
><spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> spake thusly:
>
>>In message <ft8lt2tko1d1kgvaddemftba8m20u7eq67@4ax.com> Scott
>><geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote:
>>
>>>Right now I don't know of any partitioning software that claims to be
>>>Vista compatible.

>>
>>Windows Vista's disk management has a reasonable chance of being
>>compatible, no?

>
>Well of course, but it's functionality is quite limited compared to
>third-party software.


Sure, although the majority of the people that have asked me personally
for a partition magic replacement have been able to get the job done in
Windows' desk management tools.

I haven't been watching the requests here too closely though (I have the
misfortune of being a useful software resource for friends and family)
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#15
I'll add to that.

I used GParted to shrink C: - it took about 1 hour. Next time I booted
Vista, it took about 3 hours to "repair". The C: was the reduced one from
GParted. I don't know what Vista did, but I guess it must be realted to the
extra stuff Vista puts in NTFS.

I still can't get Vista to put a partition in the available space. It
always says there isn't enough disk space to do it, even if I make the
partition onlty half the available space.
I think I'll be formatting the HDD and re-installing Vista.
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"ray" wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:12:27 -0800, Malke wrote:
>
> > ray wrote:
> >
> >> I'd be happy to, you want to send me a laptop with vista on it?
> >>

> >
> > I'm afraid I'm not one of the "influential bloggers" who got a test Acer
> > Ferrari and none of my laptops run Windows. You're on your own. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Malke

>
> In that case, I think I'll save myself the $300.
>
>
 

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