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Password BEFORE Windows Live Mail will open?

R

Robert Judge

#1
When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new messages, I
have set it to require me to enter my password manually.

However, I would like to set a password so that the password would be
required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?
 
D
#2
Nope, neither Windows Mail nor Windows Live Mail have a password option.
You'll have to use your XP or Vista user login password for security.


--
Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


"Robert Judge" <RobertJudge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:D73061C9-DB20-4345-8920-B25F93635D6F@xxxxxx

> When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new messages,
> I
> have set it to require me to enter my password manually.
>
> However, I would like to set a password so that the password would be
> required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?
 
C
#3
This is a huge problem. When will Microsoft Listen and simply add a
password functon. Let people who don't want it just turn it off.....

The login profile password is not enough, need to make email more secure.

I use outlook express now, and this is the issue that I need to remedy
before upgrading to Vista or W7.

Carl


"Dave" wrote:

> Nope, neither Windows Mail nor Windows Live Mail have a password option.
> You'll have to use your XP or Vista user login password for security.
>
>
> --
> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
>
> "Robert Judge" <RobertJudge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:D73061C9-DB20-4345-8920-B25F93635D6F@xxxxxx

> > When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new messages,
> > I
> > have set it to require me to enter my password manually.
> >
> > However, I would like to set a password so that the password would be
> > required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?
>
>
 
R

Ron Sommer

#4
The OE password is easily bypassed. A user password is a lot more secure.
--
Ron Sommer

"csm" <csm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1149F889-F537-4AC0-8A2C-449416D118A8@xxxxxx

> This is a huge problem. When will Microsoft Listen and simply add a
> password functon. Let people who don't want it just turn it off.....
>
> The login profile password is not enough, need to make email more secure.
>
> I use outlook express now, and this is the issue that I need to remedy
> before upgrading to Vista or W7.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Dave" wrote:
>

>> Nope, neither Windows Mail nor Windows Live Mail have a password option.
>> You'll have to use your XP or Vista user login password for security.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>>
>> "Robert Judge" <RobertJudge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:D73061C9-DB20-4345-8920-B25F93635D6F@xxxxxx

>> > When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new
>> > messages,
>> > I
>> > have set it to require me to enter my password manually.
>> >
>> > However, I would like to set a password so that the password would be
>> > required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?
>>
>>
 
C
#5
Tru, but if you have a user profile password that you have logged in, it
would also be nice to have the Mail password so the application itself is
secure. I don't want to have to log out, or lock my user profile
constantly, but do want my emails secure.
Just seems so simple to add a password when the app opens. Many other
common programs have this security already such as OE, Outlook, etc.......

Carl


"Ron Sommer" wrote:

> The OE password is easily bypassed. A user password is a lot more secure.
> --
> Ron Sommer
>
> "csm" <csm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1149F889-F537-4AC0-8A2C-449416D118A8@xxxxxx

> > This is a huge problem. When will Microsoft Listen and simply add a
> > password functon. Let people who don't want it just turn it off.....
> >
> > The login profile password is not enough, need to make email more secure.
> >
> > I use outlook express now, and this is the issue that I need to remedy
> > before upgrading to Vista or W7.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Dave" wrote:
> >

> >> Nope, neither Windows Mail nor Windows Live Mail have a password option.
> >> You'll have to use your XP or Vista user login password for security.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >>
> >>
> >> "Robert Judge" <RobertJudge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:D73061C9-DB20-4345-8920-B25F93635D6F@xxxxxx
> >> > When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new
> >> > messages,
> >> > I
> >> > have set it to require me to enter my password manually.
> >> >
> >> > However, I would like to set a password so that the password would be
> >> > required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?
> >>
> >>
>
 
R

R. C. White

#6
Hi, Carl.

> but do want my emails secure.
Did you ever try to read a .dbx file with Notepad - or anything other than
OE? It's not hard to do, password or no password. Even I can do it.
:>( As Ron said:

> The OE password is easily bypassed.
OE gives the APPEARANCE of security, but it protects against only the
least-competent computer user. Only the most naïve user would trust OE's
password to protect his emails.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"csm" <csm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:21A2BF77-E5DF-4A15-812E-11716E1B6E48@xxxxxx

> Tru, but if you have a user profile password that you have logged in, it
> would also be nice to have the Mail password so the application itself is
> secure. I don't want to have to log out, or lock my user profile
> constantly, but do want my emails secure.
> Just seems so simple to add a password when the app opens. Many other
> common programs have this security already such as OE, Outlook, etc.......
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>

>> The OE password is easily bypassed. A user password is a lot more
>> secure.
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>>
>> "csm" <csm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:1149F889-F537-4AC0-8A2C-449416D118A8@xxxxxx

>> > This is a huge problem. When will Microsoft Listen and simply add a
>> > password functon. Let people who don't want it just turn it off.....
>> >
>> > The login profile password is not enough, need to make email more
>> > secure.
>> >
>> > I use outlook express now, and this is the issue that I need to remedy
>> > before upgrading to Vista or W7.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dave" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nope, neither Windows Mail nor Windows Live Mail have a password
>> >> option.
>> >> You'll have to use your XP or Vista user login password for security.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
>> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Robert Judge" <RobertJudge@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:D73061C9-DB20-4345-8920-B25F93635D6F@xxxxxx
>> >> > When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new
>> >> > messages,
>> >> > I
>> >> > have set it to require me to enter my password manually.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, I would like to set a password so that the password would
>> >> > be
>> >> > required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?
 
N

N. Miller

#7
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:39:01 -0700, csm wrote:

> "Dave" wrote:

>> "Robert Judge" <RobertJudge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:D73061C9-DB20-4345-8920-B25F93635D6F@xxxxxx

>>> When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new messages,
>>> I have set it to require me to enter my password manually.
>>>
>>> However, I would like to set a password so that the password would be
>>> required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?

>> Nope, neither Windows Mail nor Windows Live Mail have a password option.
>> You'll have to use your XP or Vista user login password for security.

> This is a huge problem. When will Microsoft Listen and simply add a
> password functon. Let people who don't want it just turn it off.....
There is a password protection built in to the Windows XP User Accounts.
Just create a new User account for each User. When you are done with your
User session, log off.

> The login profile password is not enough, need to make email more secure.
>
> I use outlook express now, and this is the issue that I need to remedy
> before upgrading to Vista or W7.
That make no sense. MSOE is just an application, while Windows Vista and
Windows 7 are operating systems.

MSOE Identities, while they can be "password protected", offer limited email
security; limited to locking out another user from accessing your email
servers. All locally stored email are accessible to any user with access to
the console. All that is necessary is to execute the mail import function,
and point it at the MSOE message store for the other users.

The only way to secure your email from the access of prying eyes is to
create local User accounts in the OS, and activate the password requirement
for those accounts. This will actually lock users out of access to your
files; all of them.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
N

N. Miller

#8
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 04:41:01 -0700, csm wrote:

> Tru, but if you have a user profile password that you have logged in, it
> would also be nice to have the Mail password so the application itself is
> secure. I don't want to have to log out, or lock my user profile
> constantly, but do want my emails secure.
> Just seems so simple to add a password when the app opens. Many other
> common programs have this security already such as OE, Outlook, etc.......
False security. Let's say you have an MSOE Identity, call it, "Carl". You
read your email then you finish, and go to "File | Exit and Log Off
Identity". All of your email is secure against prying eyes, right? Wrong!
Joe Smith comes along, and opens MSOE. He gets a list of Identities to
choose from, but needs Carl's password to access the "Carl" Identity. How
can he read Carl's email? If he doesn't already have his own Identity, he
just creates one. Logs in and ... "File | Import | Messages ...". From the
list of e-mail programs, he selects, "Microsoft Outlook Express 6". From the
"Import" menu he selects, "Import mail from an OE6 store directory. He then
browses to "Carls" OE6 message store location, and selects all of the
folders he sees. Now all of Carl's email is imported to Joe Smith's
Identity. No password needed. That is the way MSOE "security" works.

If you don't want Joe Smith importing all of your private correspondence
into his MSOE Identity, you'd better lock him out of access to your files.
To do that, you definitely must log off your Windows User account.

MSOE does not provide for file access permissions. Neither does Windows
Mail, nor Windows Live Mail.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
C
#9
I understand all that and how it isn't the best security, but along with the
profile
logins I would just like the simple security of the application to have one
level of login security to guard against the simple users.

Carl


"N. Miller" wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 04:41:01 -0700, csm wrote:
>

> > Tru, but if you have a user profile password that you have logged in, it
> > would also be nice to have the Mail password so the application itself is
> > secure. I don't want to have to log out, or lock my user profile
> > constantly, but do want my emails secure.
> > Just seems so simple to add a password when the app opens. Many other
> > common programs have this security already such as OE, Outlook, etc.......
>
> False security. Let's say you have an MSOE Identity, call it, "Carl". You
> read your email then you finish, and go to "File | Exit and Log Off
> Identity". All of your email is secure against prying eyes, right? Wrong!
> Joe Smith comes along, and opens MSOE. He gets a list of Identities to
> choose from, but needs Carl's password to access the "Carl" Identity. How
> can he read Carl's email? If he doesn't already have his own Identity, he
> just creates one. Logs in and ... "File | Import | Messages ...". From the
> list of e-mail programs, he selects, "Microsoft Outlook Express 6". From the
> "Import" menu he selects, "Import mail from an OE6 store directory. He then
> browses to "Carls" OE6 message store location, and selects all of the
> folders he sees. Now all of Carl's email is imported to Joe Smith's
> Identity. No password needed. That is the way MSOE "security" works.
>
> If you don't want Joe Smith importing all of your private correspondence
> into his MSOE Identity, you'd better lock him out of access to your files.
> To do that, you definitely must log off your Windows User account.
>
> MSOE does not provide for file access permissions. Neither does Windows
> Mail, nor Windows Live Mail.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

#10
The point is, even if there was a mail password, it would not be secure.
Emails are unencrypted text files. Anyone who has access to your Windows
user account also has access to reading your emails. What do you want
to be lulled into a false sense of security?

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"csm" <csm@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:21A2BF77-E5DF-4A15-812E-11716E1B6E48@xxxxxx

> Tru, but if you have a user profile password that you have logged in, it
> would also be nice to have the Mail password so the application itself is
> secure. I don't want to have to log out, or lock my user profile
> constantly, but do want my emails secure.
> Just seems so simple to add a password when the app opens. Many other
> common programs have this security already such as OE, Outlook, etc.......
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>

>> The OE password is easily bypassed. A user password is a lot more secure.
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>>
>> "csm" <csm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:1149F889-F537-4AC0-8A2C-449416D118A8@xxxxxx

>> > This is a huge problem. When will Microsoft Listen and simply add a
>> > password functon. Let people who don't want it just turn it off.....
>> >
>> > The login profile password is not enough, need to make email more secure.
>> >
>> > I use outlook express now, and this is the issue that I need to remedy
>> > before upgrading to Vista or W7.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dave" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nope, neither Windows Mail nor Windows Live Mail have a password option.
>> >> You'll have to use your XP or Vista user login password for security.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
>> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Robert Judge" <RobertJudge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:D73061C9-DB20-4345-8920-B25F93635D6F@xxxxxx
>> >> > When I run Windows Live Mail now, my inbox opens up. To get new
>> >> > messages,
>> >> > I
>> >> > have set it to require me to enter my password manually.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, I would like to set a password so that the password would be
>> >> > required BEFORE I can see my in-box. Can I do this and if so, how?
>> >>
>> >>
>>