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Reading new newsgroup messages with WLM build 14

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History Fan

#1
I have a PC running Windows XP Home SP3, DSL connection. When new
newsgroup messages are displayed with WLM build 14, only text in the "From"
field is bold. The other columns are not. Is it possible to configure WLM
to display all the columns in bold text when the newsgroup messages are new?
This is how they appear with Outlook Express 6, and it makes finding new
messages much easier and quicker.

BTW, thanks to those who offered the suggestion of removing the SEGOE
UI fonts to improve the appearance of WLM. IMO, that definitely helps,
although text is still not as bright and easy to read as with Outlook
Express 6.

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t-4-2

#2
We all complained about it, but sadly, the answer is NO.
t-4-2

"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I have a PC running Windows XP Home SP3, DSL connection. When new
> newsgroup messages are displayed with WLM build 14, only text in the
> "From" field is bold. The other columns are not. Is it possible to
> configure WLM to display all the columns in bold text when the newsgroup
> messages are new? This is how they appear with Outlook Express 6, and it
> makes finding new messages much easier and quicker.
>
> BTW, thanks to those who offered the suggestion of removing the
> SEGOE UI fonts to improve the appearance of WLM. IMO, that definitely
> helps, although text is still not as bright and easy to read as with
> Outlook Express 6.
>
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R. C. White

#3
Hi, History Fan.

Another MVP suggested to use Tools | Message rules | News to create a new
Rule:
For all messages
Highlight it with color

and then select the Default, which is Black, or another color if you prefer.

I'm trying this and it seems to work for me. It should suffice until the
WLM Team fixes this obvious flaw in the design.

RC
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rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000)

"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eeZ#E#pdJHA.4124@xxxxxx

> I have a PC running Windows XP Home SP3, DSL connection. When new
> newsgroup messages are displayed with WLM build 14, only text in the
> "From" field is bold. The other columns are not. Is it possible to
> configure WLM to display all the columns in bold text when the newsgroup
> messages are new? This is how they appear with Outlook Express 6, and it
> makes finding new messages much easier and quicker.
>
> BTW, thanks to those who offered the suggestion of removing the
> SEGOE UI fonts to improve the appearance of WLM. IMO, that definitely
> helps, although text is still not as bright and easy to read as with
> Outlook Express 6.
>
> --
> History Fan
 

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t-4-2

#4
Yes. I had tried that and it worked. Only one thing...... The " watched news
" were no longer in red.
I was hoping that the " watched news " remained in RED, and the others in
black. No dice.
I had to " remove " the rule and leave it blank in order to have " watched
news " appeared in RED.
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"R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:59BEBA3B-0C3E-49AF-9B23-0184141D040E@xxxxxx

> Hi, History Fan.
>
> Another MVP suggested to use Tools | Message rules | News to create a new
> Rule:
> For all messages
> Highlight it with color
>
> and then select the Default, which is Black, or another color if you
> prefer.
>
> I'm trying this and it seems to work for me. It should suffice until the
> WLM Team fixes this obvious flaw in the design.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@xxxxxx
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000)
>
> "History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:eeZ#E#pdJHA.4124@xxxxxx

>> I have a PC running Windows XP Home SP3, DSL connection. When new
>> newsgroup messages are displayed with WLM build 14, only text in the
>> "From" field is bold. The other columns are not. Is it possible to
>> configure WLM to display all the columns in bold text when the newsgroup
>> messages are new? This is how they appear with Outlook Express 6, and it
>> makes finding new messages much easier and quicker.
>>
>> BTW, thanks to those who offered the suggestion of removing the
>> SEGOE UI fonts to improve the appearance of WLM. IMO, that definitely
>> helps, although text is still not as bright and easy to read as with
>> Outlook Express 6.
>>
>> --
>> History Fan
>
 

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#5
"R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:59BEBA3B-0C3E-49AF-9B23-0184141D040E@xxxxxx

> Hi, History Fan.
>
> Another MVP suggested to use Tools | Message rules | News to create a new
> Rule:
> For all messages
> Highlight it with color
>
> and then select the Default, which is Black, or another color if you
> prefer.
>
> I'm trying this and it seems to work for me. It should suffice until the
> WLM Team fixes this obvious flaw in the design.
>
> RC

Thanks for the suggestion. I followed the above steps exactly and
created the new rule. Restarted WLM, but did not notice any difference in
the appearance of newsgroup messages. I even changed the default color from
black to red, but there was no change.


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Ron Sommer

#6
The rule will only apply to newly downloaded messages.
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"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:59BEBA3B-0C3E-49AF-9B23-0184141D040E@xxxxxx

>> Hi, History Fan.
>>
>> Another MVP suggested to use Tools | Message rules | News to create a new
>> Rule:
>> For all messages
>> Highlight it with color
>>
>> and then select the Default, which is Black, or another color if you
>> prefer.
>>
>> I'm trying this and it seems to work for me. It should suffice until the
>> WLM Team fixes this obvious flaw in the design.
>>
>> RC
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I followed the above steps exactly and
> created the new rule. Restarted WLM, but did not notice any difference in
> the appearance of newsgroup messages. I even changed the default color
> from black to red, but there was no change.
>
>
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t-4-2

#7
History Fan,
Did you click " Apply Now ", then, OK ?
The changes will occur when NEW messages arrive. Those that were already
there are not affected by the rule.
t-4-2

"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:59BEBA3B-0C3E-49AF-9B23-0184141D040E@xxxxxx

>> Hi, History Fan.
>>
>> Another MVP suggested to use Tools | Message rules | News to create a new
>> Rule:
>> For all messages
>> Highlight it with color
>>
>> and then select the Default, which is Black, or another color if you
>> prefer.
>>
>> I'm trying this and it seems to work for me. It should suffice until the
>> WLM Team fixes this obvious flaw in the design.
>>
>> RC
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I followed the above steps exactly and
> created the new rule. Restarted WLM, but did not notice any difference in
> the appearance of newsgroup messages. I even changed the default color
> from black to red, but there was no change.
>
>
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History Fan

#8
"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> The rule will only apply to newly downloaded messages.
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>
Right. I just noticed that. I was able to get new messages to
display in red, green and yellow. However, when I select default, or black,
I still don't notice any difference in the appearance with new messages.
Are they supposed to be much darker?


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History Fan

#9
"t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> History Fan,
> Did you click " Apply Now ", then, OK ?
No, I didn't click "Apply Now" earlier. I just did now, so I'm
curious to see how this message appears. Thanks.


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History Fan

#10
"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:3CDB0CAF-C2E5-439A-813F-52A15667BD49@xxxxxx

>> History Fan,
>> Did you click " Apply Now ", then, OK ?
>
> No, I didn't click "Apply Now" earlier. I just did now, so I'm
> curious to see how this message appears. Thanks.
>
No change in appearance. Oh well.

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History Fan

#11
>>

>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:3CDB0CAF-C2E5-439A-813F-52A15667BD49@xxxxxx

>>> History Fan,
>>> Did you click " Apply Now ", then, OK ?
>>
>> No, I didn't click "Apply Now" earlier. I just did now, so I'm
>> curious to see how this message appears. Thanks.
>>
>
> No change in appearance. Oh well.
>

I meant no change in appearance when I select black as the default
color for the news rule.

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t-4-2

#12
Mine did. Please see my attached screenshot. You should notice the
difference.
t-4-2

"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:3CDB0CAF-C2E5-439A-813F-52A15667BD49@xxxxxx
>>>> History Fan,
>>>> Did you click " Apply Now ", then, OK ?
>>>
>>> No, I didn't click "Apply Now" earlier. I just did now, so I'm
>>> curious to see how this message appears. Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> No change in appearance. Oh well.
>>
>
>
> I meant no change in appearance when I select black as the default
> color for the news rule.
>
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History Fan

#13
"t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Mine did. Please see my attached screenshot. You should notice the
> difference.
> t-4-2
>
Yes, in your screenshot, the 'Subject, From and Date' columns are all
bold. With my computer, only the 'From' column is bold. I even tried
running WLM in Clear Type, but did not notice any difference.

I wonder if deleting the SEGOE UI fonts has something to do with this?

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History Fan

#14
> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message

> news:6A208BFE-E4A7-4AFC-9E16-0C3D0F839D45@xxxxxx

>> Mine did. Please see my attached screenshot. You should notice the
>> difference.
>> t-4-2
>>
>
> Yes, in your screenshot, the 'Subject, From and Date' columns are all
> bold. With my computer, only the 'From' column is bold. I even tried
> running WLM in Clear Type, but did not notice any difference.
>
> I wonder if deleting the SEGOE UI fonts has something to do with
> this?
>
I just uninstalled and reinstalled WLM (with the SEGOE UI fonts now
restored.) Made no difference.

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Roy Smith

#15
"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eeZ#E#pdJHA.4124@xxxxxx

> I have a PC running Windows XP Home SP3, DSL connection. When new
> newsgroup messages are displayed with WLM build 14, only text in the
> "From" field is bold. The other columns are not. Is it possible to
> configure WLM to display all the columns in bold text when the newsgroup
> messages are new? This is how they appear with Outlook Express 6, and it
> makes finding new messages much easier and quicker.
>
> BTW, thanks to those who offered the suggestion of removing the
> SEGOE UI fonts to improve the appearance of WLM. IMO, that definitely
> helps, although text is still not as bright and easy to read as with
> Outlook Express 6.
Nope, it's not possible as it was all part of a design change in what is now
the current release. When it was known as a Beta Refresh, we all complained
about this to Microsoft, and obviously it fell on deaf ears.

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History Fan

#16
"History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:6A208BFE-E4A7-4AFC-9E16-0C3D0F839D45@xxxxxx

>>> Mine did. Please see my attached screenshot. You should notice the
>>> difference.
>>> t-4-2
>>>
>>
>> Yes, in your screenshot, the 'Subject, From and Date' columns are
>> all bold. With my computer, only the 'From' column is bold. I even
>> tried running WLM in Clear Type, but did not notice any difference.
>>
>> I wonder if deleting the SEGOE UI fonts has something to do with
>> this?
>>
>
> I just uninstalled and reinstalled WLM (with the SEGOE UI fonts now
> restored.) Made no difference.
>
> --
> History Fan

I appreciate everyone's help, but I'm going back to Outlook Express 6
(again) for email and newsgroup purposes. I simply prefer the look of
Outlook Express over WLM. The text is so much easier to read with OE, and
the design seems better. In my opinion, anyway. Another thing I noticed:
when old newsgroup messages have been marked as 'Read' by Windows Live Mail,
the text becomes so faint I almost need a magnifying glass to read them.
 

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#17
"R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:59BEBA3B-0C3E-49AF-9B23-0184141D040E@xxxxxx

> Hi, History Fan.
>
> Another MVP suggested to use Tools | Message rules | News to create a new
> Rule:
> For all messages
> Highlight it with color
>
> and then select the Default, which is Black, or another color if you
> prefer.
>
> I'm trying this and it seems to work for me. It should suffice until the
> WLM Team fixes this obvious flaw in the design.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@xxxxxx
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000)
>
> "History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:eeZ#E#pdJHA.4124@xxxxxx

>> I have a PC running Windows XP Home SP3, DSL connection. When new
>> newsgroup messages are displayed with WLM build 14, only text in the
>> "From" field is bold. The other columns are not. Is it possible to
>> configure WLM to display all the columns in bold text when the newsgroup
>> messages are new? This is how they appear with Outlook Express 6, and it
>> makes finding new messages much easier and quicker.
>>
>> BTW, thanks to those who offered the suggestion of removing the
>> SEGOE UI fonts to improve the appearance of WLM. IMO, that definitely
>> helps, although text is still not as bright and easy to read as with
>> Outlook Express 6.
That suggestion was just a work around for the read messages changing from
black to that hard to read light gray. The big drawback to it is that any
watched messages no longer appear in red or whatever color you had selected
on the Tools - Options - Read Tab.

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Ron Sommer

#18
I still have red messages.
The newsgroup name is red when there are unread watched messages.
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"Roy Smith" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:59BEBA3B-0C3E-49AF-9B23-0184141D040E@xxxxxx

>> Hi, History Fan.
>>
>> Another MVP suggested to use Tools | Message rules | News to create a new
>> Rule:
>> For all messages
>> Highlight it with color
>>
>> and then select the Default, which is Black, or another color if you
>> prefer.
>>
>> I'm trying this and it seems to work for me. It should suffice until the
>> WLM Team fixes this obvious flaw in the design.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc@xxxxxx
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000)
>>
>> "History Fan" <noemailtospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:eeZ#E#pdJHA.4124@xxxxxx

>>> I have a PC running Windows XP Home SP3, DSL connection. When new
>>> newsgroup messages are displayed with WLM build 14, only text in the
>>> "From" field is bold. The other columns are not. Is it possible to
>>> configure WLM to display all the columns in bold text when the newsgroup
>>> messages are new? This is how they appear with Outlook Express 6, and it
>>> makes finding new messages much easier and quicker.
>>>
>>> BTW, thanks to those who offered the suggestion of removing the
>>> SEGOE UI fonts to improve the appearance of WLM. IMO, that definitely
>>> helps, although text is still not as bright and easy to read as with
>>> Outlook Express 6.
>
> That suggestion was just a work around for the read messages changing from
> black to that hard to read light gray. The big drawback to it is that any
> watched messages no longer appear in red or whatever color you had
> selected on the Tools - Options - Read Tab.
>
> --
> Roy Smith
> http://roysmith1959.spaces.live.com/
 

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