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Sony VAIO & Vista wireless connection problems

P

Pheasant Plucker®

#1
Hi there,

I use a 3Com 3CWRDR100A-72 router that has worked faultlessly with many
devices in my house;

W2K laptop
XP Tablet PC x 2
iPAQ 2210 & Socket CF Wi-Fi card
iPAQ 4700
XBOX 360
PS3
Nevo SL
Momento Digital picture frame x 2
20+ visiting laptops etc. etc.

You get the idea ;^)

I use MAC Address filtering for security.

However I have a brand new Sony VGN-FZ21Z that will not connect wirelessly
to it...well sometimes it has but most of the time it doesn't,

I have the router set to broadcast SSID and the FZ21Z sees it OK.

With no encryption the FZ21Z will not automatically connect after coming out
of standby or being shut down.

Using WPA it has managed to connect probably 2 times out of 20 but mostly it
fails - the log reporting a timeout error.

I have a Sony VAIO VGN-N38Z sat next to it that is fine even when the SSID
is not broadcasting.

This is driving me crazy...to help my sanity and my hair can some kind soul
offer some help/advice/tips please?

--
Thanks & regards,
-pp-
 

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Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)

#2
Try to disable the IPV6 first.

Vista IPCONFIG and Network SettingsHow to disable Auto-tuning on Windows
Vista · How to disable TCP/IPv6 · How to remove IPv6 and Tunnel completely
on Vista ...
www.howtonetworking.com/vista/vistaipconfig.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Pheasant Plucker®" <pheasant@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uJNEKlpbIHA.4752@xxxxxx

> Hi there,
>
> I use a 3Com 3CWRDR100A-72 router that has worked faultlessly with many
> devices in my house;
>
> W2K laptop
> XP Tablet PC x 2
> iPAQ 2210 & Socket CF Wi-Fi card
> iPAQ 4700
> XBOX 360
> PS3
> Nevo SL
> Momento Digital picture frame x 2
> 20+ visiting laptops etc. etc.
>
> You get the idea ;^)
>
> I use MAC Address filtering for security.
>
> However I have a brand new Sony VGN-FZ21Z that will not connect wirelessly
> to it...well sometimes it has but most of the time it doesn't,
>
> I have the router set to broadcast SSID and the FZ21Z sees it OK.
>
> With no encryption the FZ21Z will not automatically connect after coming
> out
> of standby or being shut down.
>
> Using WPA it has managed to connect probably 2 times out of 20 but mostly
> it
> fails - the log reporting a timeout error.
>
> I have a Sony VAIO VGN-N38Z sat next to it that is fine even when the SSID
> is not broadcasting.
>
> This is driving me crazy...to help my sanity and my hair can some kind
> soul
> offer some help/advice/tips please?
>
> --
> Thanks & regards,
> -pp-
>
>
 

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P

Pheasant Plucker®

#3
Thanks for the reply Robert,

When I removed WPA the Vista laptop started to behave itself and has been
connected ever since...it never done this first time round...

As soon as I turn WPA on I get the issues.

Will unbinding IPV6 have any bearing on this do you think?

I will give it a go when I get some spare time and report back.

--
Thanks & regards,
-pp-


"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailplease@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OOIRiJsbIHA.5160@xxxxxx

> Try to disable the IPV6 first.
>
> Vista IPCONFIG and Network SettingsHow to disable Auto-tuning on Windows
> Vista · How to disable TCP/IPv6 · How to remove IPv6 and Tunnel completely
> on Vista ...
> www.howtonetworking.com/vista/vistaipconfig.htm
>
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "Pheasant Plucker®" <pheasant@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uJNEKlpbIHA.4752@xxxxxx

> > Hi there,
> >
> > I use a 3Com 3CWRDR100A-72 router that has worked faultlessly with many
> > devices in my house;
> >
> > W2K laptop
> > XP Tablet PC x 2
> > iPAQ 2210 & Socket CF Wi-Fi card
> > iPAQ 4700
> > XBOX 360
> > PS3
> > Nevo SL
> > Momento Digital picture frame x 2
> > 20+ visiting laptops etc. etc.
> >
> > You get the idea ;^)
> >
> > I use MAC Address filtering for security.
> >
> > However I have a brand new Sony VGN-FZ21Z that will not connect
wirelessly

> > to it...well sometimes it has but most of the time it doesn't,
> >
> > I have the router set to broadcast SSID and the FZ21Z sees it OK.
> >
> > With no encryption the FZ21Z will not automatically connect after coming
> > out
> > of standby or being shut down.
> >
> > Using WPA it has managed to connect probably 2 times out of 20 but
mostly

> > it
> > fails - the log reporting a timeout error.
> >
> > I have a Sony VAIO VGN-N38Z sat next to it that is fine even when the
SSID

> > is not broadcasting.
> >
> > This is driving me crazy...to help my sanity and my hair can some kind
> > soul
> > offer some help/advice/tips please?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks & regards,
> > -pp-
> >
> >
>
 

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M

Martin Brown

#4
> > "Pheasant Plucker®" <pheas...@xxxxxx> wrote in message

> >news:uJNEKlpbIHA.4752@xxxxxx

> > > Hi there,
>

> > > I use a3Com3CWRDR100A-72 router that has worked faultlessly with many
> > > devices in my house;
>

> > > W2K laptop
> > > XP Tablet PC x 2
> > > iPAQ 2210 & Socket CF Wi-Fi card
> > > iPAQ 4700
> > > XBOX 360
> > > PS3
> > > Nevo SL
> > > Momento Digital picture frame x 2
> > > 20+ visiting laptops etc. etc.
>

> > > You get the idea ;^)
>

> > > I use MAC Address filtering for security.
>

> > > However I have a brand new Sony VGN-FZ21Z that will not connect
> wirelessly

> > > to it...well sometimes it has but most of the time it doesn't,
Timeout exchanging secondary keys by any chance? My new Toshiba has a
very similar problem when running Vista with WPA-PSK at home. About 1%
of the time it connects the rest it sees perfect signal does the
initial key exchange and then bombs out with a timeout waiting for
server (exactly the same model as yours). The portable has Intel
3945ABG WiFi chipset with 11.5.0.32 driver at present (others have
tried different drivers to no avail).

It seems to be much worse if it has suspended due to inactivity since
power up. I have tried disabling the power down WiFi to save power
option but that didn't seem to make any difference.

>

> > > I have the router set to broadcast SSID and the FZ21Z sees it OK.
>

> > > With no encryption the FZ21Z will not automatically connect after coming
> > > out
> > > of standby or being shut down.
>

> > > UsingWPAit has managed to connect probably 2 times out of 20 but
> mostly

> > > it
> > > fails - the log reporting a timeout error.
>

> > > I have a Sony VAIO VGN-N38Z sat next to it that is fine even when the
> SSID

> > > is not broadcasting.
>

> > > This is driving me crazy...to help my sanity and my hair can some kind
> > > soul
> > > offer some help/advice/tips please?
I am inclined to blame MS Vista and 3Com about equally for this one
since at present I cannot find anything obviously useful on either of
their respective knowledgebase sites. Although I intend to try out one
WPA related hotfix (see below). And I can find lots of people
complaining of this or very similar timeout problems when using WPA
with Vista on various platforms and in combination with various
routers.

It seems crazy to have to deliberately downgrade security to WEP just
so that new hardware using Vista can connect to an existing WPA
network. I think the problem I have may be described obliquely in the
following MSKB:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935222/en-us

I have yet to obtain this hotfix and apply it. The other one that
seems to cause trouble a bit later on after you get the encryption
sorted out is a DHCP in Vista SNAFU. Details on that one at:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us

I expect that there are some others cunningly hidden on the MSKB site
in such a way that using the obvious keywords for the problem will not
find the right solution :(

Regards,
Martin Brown
 

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Jack [MVP-Networking]

#6
Hi
The statement connected means that the Wireless card sees the source signal.
If it does not work, in most cases it a result of Not obtaining a valid IP
from the Wireless source (an IP of 169.xxx.xxx.xxx is not a valid working
IP).
Make sure that all the Wireless card parameters match the Wireless source.
My Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
Wireless Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)..


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> Please help me. I have a sony VGN-FW56E that i have connected to a
> wireless network. It says it is connected but has no internet access.
> Any ideas
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