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Two Remote Desktop Users at the same time ??

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Synapse Syndrome

#1
Is there any way to let two users use a [Vista Ultimate] desktop machine at
the same time?

Windows Server 2003 allows two concurrent connection through RDP for
administration mode.

Also, the later specification for Smart Display 1.5 (Mira), allowed the
display to use the Windows XP host to run one normal user at the computer
simultaneously with the Smart Display user.

I am looking to be able to use my Vista Ultimate desktop machine in a
similar way. I want to be able to use it normally at the desk with one user
account, and have a laptop connect to it using RDP in another user account.

When I try this I get a screen saying that the only way I can connect would
be by knocking off the other user.

Is there any possible way to do this without using a Windows Server machine
with Terminal Services?

I want to avoid compromising and using the same user account through
something like VNC or TeamViewer.

Cheers

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Tiberius

#2
there was a patch for xpsp2 that gave you as many users as you wanted....
perhaps they will make one for vista as well



"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
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>
> Is there any way to let two users use a [Vista Ultimate] desktop machine
> at the same time?
>
> Windows Server 2003 allows two concurrent connection through RDP for
> administration mode.
>
> Also, the later specification for Smart Display 1.5 (Mira), allowed the
> display to use the Windows XP host to run one normal user at the computer
> simultaneously with the Smart Display user.
>
> I am looking to be able to use my Vista Ultimate desktop machine in a
> similar way. I want to be able to use it normally at the desk with one
> user account, and have a laptop connect to it using RDP in another user
> account.
>
> When I try this I get a screen saying that the only way I can connect
> would be by knocking off the other user.
>
> Is there any possible way to do this without using a Windows Server
> machine with Terminal Services?
>
> I want to avoid compromising and using the same user account through
> something like VNC or TeamViewer.
>
> Cheers
>
> ss.
>
 

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Synapse Syndrome

#3
The title of this thread should actually be something like:

"Two conncurrent user at the same time, one using RDP ??"

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Synapse Syndrome

#4
"Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote in message
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> there was a patch for xpsp2 that gave you as many users as you wanted....
> perhaps they will make one for vista as well
>


Oh really? I never heard of that. Does that patch still work, or did MS
repatch the patch through Windows Update?

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Shenan Stanley

#5
Synapse Syndrome wrote:
> Is there any way to let two users use a [Vista Ultimate] desktop
> machine at the same time?
>
> Windows Server 2003 allows two concurrent connection through RDP for
> administration mode.
>
> Also, the later specification for Smart Display 1.5 (Mira), allowed
> the display to use the Windows XP host to run one normal user at
> the computer simultaneously with the Smart Display user.
>
> I am looking to be able to use my Vista Ultimate desktop machine in
> a similar way. I want to be able to use it normally at the desk
> with one user account, and have a laptop connect to it using RDP in
> another user account.
> When I try this I get a screen saying that the only way I can
> connect would be by knocking off the other user.
>
> Is there any possible way to do this without using a Windows Server
> machine with Terminal Services?
>
> I want to avoid compromising and using the same user account through
> something like VNC or TeamViewer.


Having given my first response - I stand by it (no supported method) - but I
did state it was possible for Windows XP using a 'hack' and files from the
beta of SP2.

Have you even searched for a solution on your own?

My first search for "concurrent remote desktop Vista" came up with hacks
similar to those for XP - but 'unsupported' and "risky" are still part of
the equation. After all you are replacing system files with those whose
contents - you do not know where they came from.

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Shenan Stanley

#6
Synapse Syndrome wrote:
> Is there any way to let two users use a [Vista Ultimate] desktop
> machine at the same time?
>
> Windows Server 2003 allows two concurrent connection through RDP for
> administration mode.


Yes - it is a server OS.

> Also, the later specification for Smart Display 1.5 (Mira), allowed
> the display to use the Windows XP host to run one normal user at
> the computer simultaneously with the Smart Display user.


Third party applications - although there was a hack by which you used a
file from a beta release of SP2 and could remote into the machine
concurrently.

> I am looking to be able to use my Vista Ultimate desktop machine in
> a similar way. I want to be able to use it normally at the desk
> with one user account, and have a laptop connect to it using RDP in
> another user account.


Perhaps with a third party program - but I am unaware of any for Vista at
this time.

> When I try this I get a screen saying that the only way I can
> connect would be by knocking off the other user.


True.

> Is there any possible way to do this without using a Windows Server
> machine with Terminal Services?


Not that has been published as supported.

> I want to avoid compromising and using the same user account through
> something like VNC or TeamViewer.


Again - you'd have to look for some third party application...

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Synapse Syndrome

#7
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Also, the later specification for Smart Display 1.5 (Mira), allowed
>> the display to use the Windows XP host to run one normal user at
>> the computer simultaneously with the Smart Display user.

>
> Third party applications - although there was a hack by which you used a
> file from a beta release of SP2 and could remote into the machine
> concurrently.


No, Smart Display was a Microsoft initiative. It failed because it was too
expensive.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/smartdisplay/default.mspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Display

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Synapse Syndrome

#8
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Have you even searched for a solution on your own?


These chosen newsgroups seemed to be the natural place to ask people that
might have had some experience with this.


> My first search for "concurrent remote desktop Vista" came up with hacks
> similar to those for XP - but 'unsupported' and "risky" are still part of
> the equation. After all you are replacing system files with those whose
> contents - you do not know where they came from.
>


Thanks, I'll have a look at these. I would guess that the files came from
Windows Server 2003.

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Shenan Stanley

#9
Shenan Stanley wrote
> Have you even searched for a solution on your own?


Synapse Syndrome wrote:
> These chosen newsgroups seemed to be the natural place to ask
> people that might have had some experience with this.


Yes - but just because you can ask doesn't mean you shouldn't put in some
effort on your own first... ;-)

Shenan Stanley wrote
> My first search for "concurrent remote desktop Vista" came up with
> hacks similar to those for XP - but 'unsupported' and "risky" are
> still part of the equation. After all you are replacing system
> files with those whose contents - you do not know where they came
> from.


Synapse Syndrome wrote:
> Thanks, I'll have a look at these. I would guess that the files
> came from Windows Server 2003.


No idea - they claim to be hacked... The definition of 'hacked' is pretty
broad these days.

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Tiberius

#10
It works

there are links and downloads for it here

http://www.google.com/search?q=Term...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1


"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
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> "Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote in message
> news:uKOiJwBsHHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> there was a patch for xpsp2 that gave you as many users as you wanted....
>> perhaps they will make one for vista as well
>>

>
> Oh really? I never heard of that. Does that patch still work, or did MS
> repatch the patch through Windows Update?
>
> ss.
>
 

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Richard G. Harper

#11
No. Server OSes allow multiple remote users, desktop OSes allow only one.

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"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:OIdybtBsHHA.4180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Is there any way to let two users use a [Vista Ultimate] desktop machine
> at the same time?
>
> Windows Server 2003 allows two concurrent connection through RDP for
> administration mode.
>
> Also, the later specification for Smart Display 1.5 (Mira), allowed the
> display to use the Windows XP host to run one normal user at the computer
> simultaneously with the Smart Display user.
>
> I am looking to be able to use my Vista Ultimate desktop machine in a
> similar way. I want to be able to use it normally at the desk with one
> user account, and have a laptop connect to it using RDP in another user
> account.
>
> When I try this I get a screen saying that the only way I can connect
> would be by knocking off the other user.
>
> Is there any possible way to do this without using a Windows Server
> machine with Terminal Services?
>
> I want to avoid compromising and using the same user account through
> something like VNC or TeamViewer.
>
> Cheers
>
> ss.
>
 

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#12
I don't know if this is of any use to you but...

With Vista and Virtual PC running XP for example, you can have an RDP
session to the XP system at the same time as an RDP session to the Vista
system. or you can have an RDP session to the virtual system at the same
time as a locally logged on user to the hosting machine. Now that virtual
machine could be running Vista Ultimate (or many other things) instead of
XP. I'm sure that would work just as well as XP; just haven't tried it.
Of course here are restrictions to the virtual machine, but it may suffice
for a lot of requirements.


"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:OIdybtBsHHA.4180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Is there any way to let two users use a [Vista Ultimate] desktop machine
> at the same time?
>
> Windows Server 2003 allows two concurrent connection through RDP for
> administration mode.
>
> Also, the later specification for Smart Display 1.5 (Mira), allowed the
> display to use the Windows XP host to run one normal user at the computer
> simultaneously with the Smart Display user.
>
> I am looking to be able to use my Vista Ultimate desktop machine in a
> similar way. I want to be able to use it normally at the desk with one
> user account, and have a laptop connect to it using RDP in another user
> account.
>
> When I try this I get a screen saying that the only way I can connect
> would be by knocking off the other user.
>
> Is there any possible way to do this without using a Windows Server
> machine with Terminal Services?
>
> I want to avoid compromising and using the same user account through
> something like VNC or TeamViewer.
>
> Cheers
>
> ss.
>
 

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Samim Erdogan [MSFT]

#13
Just wanted to clarify: The link below and the software "patch" referenced
there is not from Microsoft. All desktop versions of Windows XP and Windows
Vista only support one desktop session, whether that is locally logged on or
over a remoting protocol such as RDP. There is no Windows patch or upgrade
that changes that behavior.

Windows *server* 2003 (all versions) supports two desktop session for
administration purposes. This is also the case for Widnows Server 2008
(=Longhorn Server).

-samim

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"Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote in message
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> It works
>
> there are links and downloads for it here
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=Term...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
>
>
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
> news:%23MK0D2BsHHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote in message
>> news:uKOiJwBsHHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> there was a patch for xpsp2 that gave you as many users as you
>>> wanted.... perhaps they will make one for vista as well
>>>

>>
>> Oh really? I never heard of that. Does that patch still work, or did MS
>> repatch the patch through Windows Update?
>>
>> ss.
>>

>
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