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Upgrade to Windows 7 Question

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Usenet User

#1
I currently have Vista Home Premium. If I do an upgrade to Windows 7 I
understand that Windows 7 will deactivate the Vista product key. OK, so
in the future, if I have to reload Windows 7 because I have replaced the
hard drive, how do I reload Windows 7 using the upgrade DVD?
 

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Colin Barnhorst

#2
"Usenet User" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I currently have Vista Home Premium. If I do an upgrade to Windows 7 I
>understand that Windows 7 will deactivate the Vista product key. OK, so in
>the future, if I have to reload Windows 7 because I have replaced the hard
>drive, how do I reload Windows 7 using the upgrade DVD?
The issue isn't deactivation but retirement. When you buy an upgrade
product key you are required to retire the older product key you are
upgrading from. If you have a Vista upgrade product key then you will be
out of compliance with its licence if you use it again after having used a
Win7 upgrade product key to upgrade over it. If you want to continue to use
the Vista upgrade license you need to buy a full edition of Win 7 and not an
upgrade.
 

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Mike Hall - MVP

#3
"Usenet User" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I currently have Vista Home Premium. If I do an upgrade to Windows 7 I
> understand that Windows 7 will deactivate the Vista product key. OK, so in
> the future, if I have to reload Windows 7 because I have replaced the hard
> drive, how do I reload Windows 7 using the upgrade DVD?
As far as I am aware, it deactivates it but doesn't stop it working in the
future. In the event that you have to start over, the key code will get
Vista activated such that you can use your upgrade.

BUT, the Vista key code must NOT be activated again as long as the Windows 7
installation is activated and operational..


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Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 

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Curious

#4
What you have to do is re install Vista on the new HDD using Phone
activation and your Vista installation DVD or set of recovery DVDs you made
when you got the Vista system and then do the Win7 upgrade again using phone
activation.

"Usenet User" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OoIVpKCIKHA.1336@xxxxxx

> I currently have Vista Home Premium. If I do an upgrade to Windows 7 I
> understand that Windows 7 will deactivate the Vista product key. OK, so in
> the future, if I have to reload Windows 7 because I have replaced the hard
> drive, how do I reload Windows 7 using the upgrade DVD?
 

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Colin Barnhorst

#5
"Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> What you have to do is re install Vista on the new HDD using Phone
> activation and your Vista installation DVD or set of recovery DVDs you
> made when you got the Vista system and then do the Win7 upgrade again
> using phone activation.
>
> "Usenet User" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OoIVpKCIKHA.1336@xxxxxx

>> I currently have Vista Home Premium. If I do an upgrade to Windows 7 I
>> understand that Windows 7 will deactivate the Vista product key. OK, so
>> in the future, if I have to reload Windows 7 because I have replaced the
>> hard drive, how do I reload Windows 7 using the upgrade DVD?
>
This is true only if he buys a full edition Win7. If he buys an upgrade
Win7 then the Vista license is tied to the Win7 upgrade license and is not
to be reused.
 

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Curious

#6
Are you saying that if I have a total disk failure on a system that was
upgraded to Win7 with an upgrade license that there is no way to reinstall
Win7 on the same system using the upgrade license?

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ehuYMFDIKHA.1380@xxxxxx

>> What you have to do is re install Vista on the new HDD using Phone
>> activation and your Vista installation DVD or set of recovery DVDs you
>> made when you got the Vista system and then do the Win7 upgrade again
>> using phone activation.
>>
>> "Usenet User" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OoIVpKCIKHA.1336@xxxxxx

>>> I currently have Vista Home Premium. If I do an upgrade to Windows 7 I
>>> understand that Windows 7 will deactivate the Vista product key. OK, so
>>> in the future, if I have to reload Windows 7 because I have replaced the
>>> hard drive, how do I reload Windows 7 using the upgrade DVD?
>>
>
> This is true only if he buys a full edition Win7. If he buys an upgrade
> Win7 then the Vista license is tied to the Win7 upgrade license and is not
> to be reused.
 

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Dominic Payer

#7
No-one knows yet because we have not seen a Windows 7 upgrade disk, so
do not know exactly how the upgrade validation process will work.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp worked
for Vista and presumably that or something similar will work for Windows 7.


On 18/08/2009 17:40, Usenet User wrote:

> I currently have Vista Home Premium. If I do an upgrade to Windows 7 I
> understand that Windows 7 will deactivate the Vista product key. OK, so
> in the future, if I have to reload Windows 7 because I have replaced the
> hard drive, how do I reload Windows 7 using the upgrade DVD?
 

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Louie Pham

#8
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:33:40 -0700, "Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxx>
wrote:

>Are you saying that if I have a total disk failure on a system that was
>upgraded to Win7 with an upgrade license that there is no way to reinstall
>Win7 on the same system using the upgrade license?
Just used the phone activate instead internet activate.
 

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totfit

#9
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:27:33 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
<c.barnhorst@xxxxxx> wrote:

>"Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:OfU9tGNIKHA.1340@xxxxxx

>> Are you saying that if I have a total disk failure on a system that was
>> upgraded to Win7 with an upgrade license that there is no way to reinstall
>> Win7 on the same system using the upgrade license?
>>
>
>No, I'm not. I am saying that once Win7 is installed using an upgrade
>product key the old OS that it replaces may not be installed anywhere
>anymore. There is nothing in the license to prevent your recovering a
>system by backtracking to the old OS and upgrading to Win7 again in order to
>rebuild the system. You are entitled to recovery. You just can't use the
>old OS once you use it as the basis for an upgrade to the new OS.
>
So, you can't install on a separate drive or partition and dual boot?
If that is the case, I may not upgrade Vista. I don't want to loose
it. There are things I like about it that Windows 7 doesn't have. Now
I do have another machine with XP which I may upgrade instead. I
probably wouldn't have even pre-ordered had I know that I couldn't
dual boot. Guess I should have.
 

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Colin Barnhorst

#10
"totfit" <totfit@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:27:33 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <c.barnhorst@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

>>"Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:OfU9tGNIKHA.1340@xxxxxx

>>> Are you saying that if I have a total disk failure on a system that was
>>> upgraded to Win7 with an upgrade license that there is no way to
>>> reinstall
>>> Win7 on the same system using the upgrade license?
>>>
>>
>>No, I'm not. I am saying that once Win7 is installed using an upgrade
>>product key the old OS that it replaces may not be installed anywhere
>>anymore. There is nothing in the license to prevent your recovering a
>>system by backtracking to the old OS and upgrading to Win7 again in order
>>to
>>rebuild the system. You are entitled to recovery. You just can't use the
>>old OS once you use it as the basis for an upgrade to the new OS.
>>
>
> So, you can't install on a separate drive or partition and dual boot?
> If that is the case, I may not upgrade Vista. I don't want to loose
> it. There are things I like about it that Windows 7 doesn't have. Now
> I do have another machine with XP which I may upgrade instead. I
> probably wouldn't have even pre-ordered had I know that I couldn't
> dual boot. Guess I should have.
Correct. The EULA is specific that it permits installation on one device
and defines a partition or blade as a separate device. Two partitions on
the same computer are two different devices for licensing purposes. In
order to dual boot XP and Vista you need a full license for Vista and you
should use the procedure in the attached Word doc to protect your Vista
files from damage from XP's volsnap.sys driver.
 

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