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Where is blocked senders list?

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Steve Thackery

#1
I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my Emails
folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked senders list.

Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?

Thanks,

SteveT
 

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Urbane.Tiger

#2
What is the path of your "Emails" folder, I back up the whole Mail Store -
which I've set to "d:\application data\mail storage", I think the black list
got restored when I did a restore a few weeks ago. What's your backup
process.

It's not obvious to me where the black list exactly is kept - maybe in
"D:\Application Data\Mail Storage\Mail.MSMessageStore" which looks
suspiciously like an OE database - OE has never been on this system - dunno
--
TUT

WLMail (was WLM Deskop),
Windows Live Hotmail (WLH) (was Windows Live Mail)
Windows Live Messenger (WLM) (not to be confused with Windows Messenger
(vanilla)
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"Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx

> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my Emails
> folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked senders list.
>
> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
 

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Michael Santovec

#3
It's in the registry at

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]

As part of a backup, you'll want to save the whole registry tree

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail]

Among other things, you message rules are there, as well as a few
hundred other settings for WLM.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx

> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my
> Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked
> senders list.
>
> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
 

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PaulM

#4
That should read:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Junk Mail\Block
Senders List\

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"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:egoZw0PzIHA.548@xxxxxx

> It's in the registry at
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]
>
> As part of a backup, you'll want to save the whole registry tree
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail]
>
> Among other things, you message rules are there, as well as a few hundred
> other settings for WLM.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx

>> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my
>> Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked
>> senders list.
>>
>> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> SteveT
>
>
 

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Urbane.Tiger

#6
Would it be rude to as why data of this sort (ie application specific data)
is being kept in the registry.

Where is it written that a registry backup should be part of every Mail
Storage backup - especially if you intend to reinstall WLMail. Indeed why
does the WLMail install keep the Mail Store and clobber the Registry
settings, that's a defect.

The restore of my Mail Store that I referred to in a previous post was NOT
preceded by a WLMail install, hence I did not lose them
--
TUT

WLMail (was WLM Deskop),
Windows Live Hotmail (WLH) (was Windows Live Mail)
Windows Live Messenger (WLM) (not to be confused with Windows Messenger
(vanilla)
__________________________________________



"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:egoZw0PzIHA.548@xxxxxx

> It's in the registry at
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]
>
> As part of a backup, you'll want to save the whole registry tree
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail]
>
> Among other things, you message rules are there, as well as a few hundred
> other settings for WLM.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx

>> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my
>> Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked
>> senders list.
>>
>> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> SteveT
>
>
 

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R. C. White

#7
Hi, Steve.

To see the Blocked Senders list from inside WLM, click Tools | Safety
options | Blocked Senders.

But you probably knew that. ;^}

RC
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San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx

> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my Emails
> folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked senders list.
>
> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
 

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Steve Thackery

#8
> But you probably knew that. ;^}

I did, thanks, RC. The issue for me was that I'd spent some time building
up my blocked senders list, and didn't want to lose it when I reformatted
and reinstalled Vista. I couldn't find where it was stored, but all is
clear now.

SteveT
 

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Steve Thackery

#9
> Where is it written that a registry backup should be part of every Mail

> Storage backup - especially if you intend to reinstall WLMail. Indeed why
> does the WLMail install keep the Mail Store and clobber the Registry
> settings, that's a defect.
This is an issue that will run and run with Windows software: whether to put
application-related data into the registry, the Users area, or the
normally-hidden C:\ProgramData\ folder.

Also, the dividing line between application data and user data is debatable.
For instance, the blocked senders list might be considered one or the other,
depending on your point of view.

It's a bit of a mess, to be honest. As a small-time programmer myself, I
tend to avoid the registry.

SteveT
 

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Michael Santovec

#10
That's Odd, I don't even have a "Junk Mail" key. And my blocked
senders list is as I stated before

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]



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"PaulM" <paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eF5UAEQzIHA.2068@xxxxxx

> That should read:
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Junk
> Mail\Block Senders List\
>
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> ----------------------------------------
> www.paulsxp.com
> www.paulsxp.com/forum
> ----------------------------------------
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:egoZw0PzIHA.548@xxxxxx

>> It's in the registry at
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block
>> Senders]
>>
>> As part of a backup, you'll want to save the whole registry tree
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail]
>>
>> Among other things, you message rules are there, as well as a few
>> hundred other settings for WLM.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx

>>> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my
>>> Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked
>>> senders list.
>>>
>>> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> SteveT
>>
>>
 

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Ildhund

#11
That's odd, too. I don't have the key you mention (on XPSP3). My
blocked senders lists are under "PerPassportSettings", like
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live
Mail\PerPassportSettings\1234567890\Junk Mail\Block Senders List.
Perhaps it depends on OS and on whether there is a, or more than
one, Live ID involved. Incidentally, a good way to keep the list
backed up is to sign in - that synchronizes black- and whitelists as
well as contacts.
--
Noel

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ewhoR1ZzIHA.3504@xxxxxx

> That's Odd, I don't even have a "Junk Mail" key. And my blocked
> senders list is as I stated before
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block
> Senders]

> "PaulM" <paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eF5UAEQzIHA.2068@xxxxxx

>> That should read:
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Junk
>> Mail\Block Senders List\
>>

>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:egoZw0PzIHA.548@xxxxxx

>>> It's in the registry at
>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block
>>> Senders]
>>>
>>> As part of a backup, you'll want to save the whole registry tree
>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail]
>>>
>>> Among other things, you message rules are there, as well as a
>>> few hundred other settings for WLM.

>>> "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx
>>>> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything
>>>> in my Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost
>>>> my blocked senders list.
>>>>
>>>> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore
>>>> it?
 

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Michael Santovec

#12
I did some more digging.

The list at
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]

appears to have been imported from Outlook Express. It has separate
mail and news lists and is what I had in OE.

I found the active WLM list at

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live
Mail\PerPassportSettings\0\Junk Mail\Block Senders List]

It includes the imported list from OE plus changes made since then.

I don't have any Hotmail/Live e-mail accounts, and although I have a
passport account, I don't sign-in to it via WLM.


--

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"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> That's odd, too. I don't have the key you mention (on XPSP3). My
> blocked senders lists are under "PerPassportSettings", like
> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live
> Mail\PerPassportSettings\1234567890\Junk Mail\Block Senders List.
> Perhaps it depends on OS and on whether there is a, or more than one,
> Live ID involved. Incidentally, a good way to keep the list backed up
> is to sign in - that synchronizes black- and whitelists as well as
> contacts.
> --
> Noel
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ewhoR1ZzIHA.3504@xxxxxx

>> That's Odd, I don't even have a "Junk Mail" key. And my blocked
>> senders list is as I stated before
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block
>> Senders]
>

>> "PaulM" <paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eF5UAEQzIHA.2068@xxxxxx

>>> That should read:
>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Junk
>>> Mail\Block Senders List\
>>>
>

>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:egoZw0PzIHA.548@xxxxxx
>>>> It's in the registry at
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block
>>>> Senders]
>>>>
>>>> As part of a backup, you'll want to save the whole registry tree
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail]
>>>>
>>>> Among other things, you message rules are there, as well as a few
>>>> hundred other settings for WLM.
>

>>>> "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx
>>>>> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in
>>>>> my Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my
>>>>> blocked senders list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>
>
 

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PaulM

#13
Here is my reg key:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Junk Mail\Block
Senders List]
"Version"=dword:00050000

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"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uFzM4wazIHA.4864@xxxxxx

> I did some more digging.
>
> The list at
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]
>
> appears to have been imported from Outlook Express. It has separate mail
> and news lists and is what I had in OE.
>
> I found the active WLM list at
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live
> Mail\PerPassportSettings\0\Junk Mail\Block Senders List]
>
> It includes the imported list from OE plus changes made since then.
>
> I don't have any Hotmail/Live e-mail accounts, and although I have a
> passport account, I don't sign-in to it via WLM.
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OR9k8OazIHA.4676@xxxxxx

>> That's odd, too. I don't have the key you mention (on XPSP3). My blocked
>> senders lists are under "PerPassportSettings", like
>> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live
>> Mail\PerPassportSettings\1234567890\Junk Mail\Block Senders List. Perhaps
>> it depends on OS and on whether there is a, or more than one, Live ID
>> involved. Incidentally, a good way to keep the list backed up is to sign
>> in - that synchronizes black- and whitelists as well as contacts.
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ewhoR1ZzIHA.3504@xxxxxx

>>> That's Odd, I don't even have a "Junk Mail" key. And my blocked
>>> senders list is as I stated before
>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]
>>

>>> "PaulM" <paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eF5UAEQzIHA.2068@xxxxxx
>>>> That should read:
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Junk Mail\Block
>>>> Senders List\
>>>>
>>

>>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:egoZw0PzIHA.548@xxxxxx
>>>>> It's in the registry at
>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Block Senders]
>>>>>
>>>>> As part of a backup, you'll want to save the whole registry tree
>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail]
>>>>>
>>>>> Among other things, you message rules are there, as well as a few
>>>>> hundred other settings for WLM.
>>

>>>>> "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx
>>>>>> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my
>>>>>> Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my blocked
>>>>>> senders list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>>
>>
>
 

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#15
Steve

I avoid it because in part it's what MS have been telling me to do for the last decade or more - also its a pain for anything beyond atomic values.

In MS's defence WLMail's not a .NET app so it doesn't have the ready access the libraries that .NET provides, e.g. I think the System.Configuration library where the Settings stuff hangs out is a 'Net library, but in .NET one wouldn't put black lists into Settings either, you'd put it in a List which you'd binary serialize to a file or to a table in a compact database.

This begs the question why isn't WLMail a .NET app - performance would be my guess.:sarc: I dont think theres an MSDN for Live.Mail otherwise I'd think about doing something in WFM with Silverlight.:D
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> Where is it written that a registry backup should be part of every Mail

> Storage backup - especially if you intend to reinstall WLMail. Indeed why
> does the WLMail install keep the Mail Store and clobber the Registry
> settings, that's a defect.
This is an issue that will run and run with Windows software: whether to put
application-related data into the registry, the Users area, or the
normally-hidden C:\ProgramData\ folder.

Also, the dividing line between application data and user data is debatable.
For instance, the blocked senders list might be considered one or the other,
depending on your point of view.

It's a bit of a mess, to be honest. As a small-time programmer myself, I
tend to avoid the registry.

SteveT
 

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...winston

#16
If you only need the list of the blocked senders..
Turn on the logging feature in WLM(Tools/Options/Advanced/Maintenance).
- The log contains the list of blocked senders.
The log file(WindowsLiveMail.log) is in the same folder as WLM's store
- Tools/Options/Advanced/Maintenance/Store Folder

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"Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#U4lT3OzIHA.2292@xxxxxx

> I rebuilt my PC recently, and although I backed up everything in my Emails folder (and thus all my emails were kept), I lost my
> blocked senders list.
>
> Where is it stored, so next time I can back it up and restore it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
 

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#18
winston

nice - can you confirm that one only need turn on General logging


ta much - TUT
 

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    Intell 8200
    Motherboard
    ASUS P%PKL
    Memory
    4G
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI 2400 PRO
    Hard Drives
    1 x 74G WD Raptor 10K
    1 * 500G WD SATAII
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...winston

#19
Turn on Http logging.

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"Urbane.Tiger" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:655bc52b8dd4318a7c366c26f172a140@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

>
> winston
>
> nice - can you confirm that one only need turn on General logging
 

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Michael Santovec

#20
So are you saying this would only apply if you have a Hotmail account?

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"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Turn on Http logging.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "Urbane.Tiger" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:655bc52b8dd4318a7c366c26f172a140@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

>>
>> winston
>>
>> nice - can you confirm that one only need turn on General logging
>
>
>
 

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