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*****windows live mail and scrippy and colored scrollbar*****

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Petra2008

#1
hello group,
i have a question about the new mail program from microsoft.

When i try to send a stationery, and try to get in the colored scrollbar,
(was easy in Outlook Express) i do not get it.

What can i do that the stationery goes with a colored scrollbar.

Also i use sometimes the Scrippy programm, and i do not get the scrippy in
windows live mail.

Hope someone can help me,

thanks a lot in advance,
hugs,
Petr@
 

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Michael Santovec

#2
See if this helps with your scrolling issue:
http://www.vistax64.com/live-mail/154342-wlm-scrolling-stationery.html

As for Scrippy, the web site says you need a minimum Outlook Express 5
or Outlook 2000. Although WLM is based on OE, it's not the same program
and plug-ins/add-ons for OE don't work with WLM. You might ask the
author to update his program.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Petra2008" <PetraSchaefer2008@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e#5EqVP2IHA.4492@xxxxxx

> hello group,
> i have a question about the new mail program from microsoft.
>
> When i try to send a stationery, and try to get in the colored
> scrollbar, (was easy in Outlook Express) i do not get it.
>
> What can i do that the stationery goes with a colored scrollbar.
>
> Also i use sometimes the Scrippy programm, and i do not get the
> scrippy in windows live mail.
>
> Hope someone can help me,
>
> thanks a lot in advance,
> hugs,
> Petr@
 

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Petra2008

#3
have to answer you the second time, the first message isn´t showing up here,
don´t know what WLM is doing.

thanks for your interesting link, but WLM hasn´t a function to make or see
the source, so it is impossible to make a colored scrollbar.
all the wonderfull functions from OE are NOT in the new one, and this is to
bad,

thank you so much for helping me,

have a nice day,
hugs,
Petr@


"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:en$cMfU2IHA.528@xxxxxx

> See if this helps with your scrolling issue:
> http://www.vistax64.com/live-mail/154342-wlm-scrolling-stationery.html
>
> As for Scrippy, the web site says you need a minimum Outlook Express 5 or
> Outlook 2000. Although WLM is based on OE, it's not the same program and
> plug-ins/add-ons for OE don't work with WLM. You might ask the author to
> update his program.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Petra2008" <PetraSchaefer2008@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e#5EqVP2IHA.4492@xxxxxx

>> hello group,
>> i have a question about the new mail program from microsoft.
>>
>> When i try to send a stationery, and try to get in the colored scrollbar,
>> (was easy in Outlook Express) i do not get it.
>>
>> What can i do that the stationery goes with a colored scrollbar.
>>
>> Also i use sometimes the Scrippy programm, and i do not get the scrippy
>> in windows live mail.
>>
>> Hope someone can help me,
>>
>> thanks a lot in advance,
>> hugs,
>> Petr@
>
>
 

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Michael Santovec

#4
Windows Live Mail (WLM) lacks the ability that Outlook Express (OE) has
to view/edit the HTML source in a message that you are composing. There
is a workaround, but it is nowhere as convenient as in OE.

1 - Start composing the message as normal.

2 - When you get to the point when you want to edit the HTML, do a File,
Save As to an EML file. Close the message (X in the upper right hand
corner).

3 - Open the saved EML file in Notepad.

4 - At this point you can edit the HTML code. If you edit the text in
the HTML portion of the message, WLM will automatically update the plain
text portion when you send the message.

5 - Save the EML file from Notepad, then double click to open in WLM.
You can then send the message.

6 - The saved EML file can be deleted.

Note: If after opening the saved EML file you make some changes via WLM
and decide that you need to do make further source changes, you will
need to save to a different EML file, as the current one is locked by
WLM and won't let the Save As update it.



--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Petra2008" <PetraSchaefer2008@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> have to answer you the second time, the first message isn´t showing up
> here, don´t know what WLM is doing.
>
> thanks for your interesting link, but WLM hasn´t a function to make or
> see the source, so it is impossible to make a colored scrollbar.
> all the wonderfull functions from OE are NOT in the new one, and this
> is to bad,
>
> thank you so much for helping me,
>
> have a nice day,
> hugs,
> Petr@
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> schrieb im
> Newsbeitrag news:en$cMfU2IHA.528@xxxxxx

>> See if this helps with your scrolling issue:
>> http://www.vistax64.com/live-mail/154342-wlm-scrolling-stationery.html
>>
>> As for Scrippy, the web site says you need a minimum Outlook Express
>> 5 or Outlook 2000. Although WLM is based on OE, it's not the same
>> program and plug-ins/add-ons for OE don't work with WLM. You might
>> ask the author to update his program.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Petra2008" <PetraSchaefer2008@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e#5EqVP2IHA.4492@xxxxxx

>>> hello group,
>>> i have a question about the new mail program from microsoft.
>>>
>>> When i try to send a stationery, and try to get in the colored
>>> scrollbar, (was easy in Outlook Express) i do not get it.
>>>
>>> What can i do that the stationery goes with a colored scrollbar.
>>>
>>> Also i use sometimes the Scrippy programm, and i do not get the
>>> scrippy in windows live mail.
>>>
>>> Hope someone can help me,
>>>
>>> thanks a lot in advance,
>>> hugs,
>>> Petr@
>>
>>
 

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N. Miller

#5
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:23:15 +0200, Petra2008 wrote:

> thanks for your interesting link, but WLM hasn´t a function to make or see
> the source, so it is impossible to make a colored scrollbar.
> all the wonderfull functions from OE are NOT in the new one, and this is to
> bad,
Neither do most other email programs. Email, itself, was designed in the
days of text, and sending anything other than plain text using email
requires programming tricks. I suspect that the WLM programming staff cut
some corners to get the client out on schedule.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 

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Urbane.Tiger

#6
Hi Michael - you wrote

"Although WLM is based on OE, it's not the same program"

In what sense is "WLM based on OE", other than its they are both email
clients. Contrary to popular belief OE was not the first email client;-)

I don't see much OE legacy - user interface is different (that's no bad
thing, if you want an OE lookalike try TB), mail storage is different (thank
goodness), contacts/nab are different (good - all contacts are stored in a
common format irrespective of how they came to be, bad - some commonly used
data in OE not in WLM)

rgds

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:en$cMfU2IHA.528@xxxxxx

> See if this helps with your scrolling issue:
> http://www.vistax64.com/live-mail/154342-wlm-scrolling-stationery.html
>
> As for Scrippy, the web site says you need a minimum Outlook Express 5 or
> Outlook 2000. Although WLM is based on OE, it's not the same program and
> plug-ins/add-ons for OE don't work with WLM. You might ask the author to
> update his program.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Petra2008" <PetraSchaefer2008@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e#5EqVP2IHA.4492@xxxxxx

>> hello group,
>> i have a question about the new mail program from microsoft.
>>
>> When i try to send a stationery, and try to get in the colored scrollbar,
>> (was easy in Outlook Express) i do not get it.
>>
>> What can i do that the stationery goes with a colored scrollbar.
>>
>> Also i use sometimes the Scrippy programm, and i do not get the scrippy
>> in windows live mail.
>>
>> Hope someone can help me,
>>
>> thanks a lot in advance,
>> hugs,
>> Petr@
>
>
 

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Urbane.Tiger

#7
Re: *****here is the result*****

probably the post with this subject "*****windows live mail and scrippy and
colored scrollbar*****" same OP

"©LarryEº" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> It would be nice if we knew what in the heck this was all about???????
> --
> ©LarryEº
>
> "Rowland of The BNP" <rowlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:b15okt5shnno$.da6fz4xoi8rq$.dlg@xxxxxx

>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:58:31 +0200, Petra2008 wrote:
>>

>>>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hello group,
>>>
>>> i workd the hold last 2 days on it, and here i will show you the
>>> result, done in WLM )
>>>
>>> hugs,
>>>
>>> Petr@
>>>
>>
>>
>> You've done very well! Just think how good you'll be in a week!
>
 

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Michael Santovec

#8
My take on it is that they are about 80% the same program.

If you look at the Tools, Options, you'll see that the dialogs are very
similar. A few items have been moved around, and the verbiage is a
little bit different.

Although the user interface is a bit different, I'd say they are very
similar when comparing to other mail programs.

WLM even retains an number of internal OE quirks. That includes

- the hiding of WINMAIL.DAT attachments
- using the OPEN rather than default file association for attachments
- how it handles attachments regarding file extensions and MIME content
type
- using the default mail program for e-mail replies in newsgroups rather
than itself
and other things.

If someone had given me a copy of WLM without telling the program's
name, I would have guessed it was OE7. Or maybe OE8, with Vista Windows
Mail (WM) being OE7.

There certainly are some differences. Some new features, some lost.

I don't know how fare back you go with OE. But the differences between
OE4 and OE5 are on a par with the differences between OE6 and WLM. For
example, the DBX files were introduced with OE5. OE4 used the MBX/IDX
files that it inherited from the IE3 Internet Mail and News (IMN)
program. OE5 introduced Identities and WLM went back to the OE4 model.

The use of EML and NWS files goes back to IMN. Although for performance
reasons, IMN and OE aggregated them into MBX or DBX files for regular
use. But all these programs supported saving messages to the EML/NWS
format and reading them standalone.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hi Michael - you wrote
>
> "Although WLM is based on OE, it's not the same program"
>
> In what sense is "WLM based on OE", other than its they are both email
> clients. Contrary to popular belief OE was not the first email
> client;-)
>
> I don't see much OE legacy - user interface is different (that's no
> bad thing, if you want an OE lookalike try TB), mail storage is
> different (thank goodness), contacts/nab are different (good - all
> contacts are stored in a common format irrespective of how they came
> to be, bad - some commonly used data in OE not in WLM)
>
> rgds
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:en$cMfU2IHA.528@xxxxxx

>> See if this helps with your scrolling issue:
>> http://www.vistax64.com/live-mail/154342-wlm-scrolling-stationery.html
>>
>> As for Scrippy, the web site says you need a minimum Outlook Express
>> 5 or Outlook 2000. Although WLM is based on OE, it's not the same
>> program and plug-ins/add-ons for OE don't work with WLM. You might
>> ask the author to update his program.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Petra2008" <PetraSchaefer2008@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e#5EqVP2IHA.4492@xxxxxx

>>> hello group,
>>> i have a question about the new mail program from microsoft.
>>>
>>> When i try to send a stationery, and try to get in the colored
>>> scrollbar, (was easy in Outlook Express) i do not get it.
>>>
>>> What can i do that the stationery goes with a colored scrollbar.
>>>
>>> Also i use sometimes the Scrippy programm, and i do not get the
>>> scrippy in windows live mail.
>>>
>>> Hope someone can help me,
>>>
>>> thanks a lot in advance,
>>> hugs,
>>> Petr@
>>
>>
 

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